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Officials Will Negotiate Fees With Some Facility Users

Superintendent said officials will meet face-to-face with Police Athletic League and Boys & Girls Club to determine usage fees for district facilities.

District officials say that they will negotiate with the town’s larger community groups regarding their use of district-owned facilities.

Superintendent Ray Gonzalez said that the “ will only move forward with the policy, as it relates to larger user groups, once it has had the opportunity to meet face-to-face with these groups.”

Fees for the larger user groups, including the , the Police Athletic League (PAL), and little league, will be negotiated and included in the contracts between these organizations and the district.

Gonzalez said in a statement that the new policy replaces an already-existing policy the district has in place. The fees included in the new policy are approximately 40 percent less than the fees on the prior schedule.

The board last month. 

“This is nothing new,” Gonzalez said, noting that it was the board’s intent from the beginning was to explore “mutually beneficial and creative partnerships” with community-based users of school facilities.

“Negotiations are expected, for the benefit of the district and various organizations, to keep services moving,” Gonzalez said.

John Lynch, chief professional officer of the Boys & Girls Club, said that had the current policy been in place last year, the organization would have needed to pay the district $410,000. Lynch called the policy “outrageous.”

Gonzalez said, “comments that the board of education would charge town-based user groups hundreds of thousands of dollars to use fields and facilities “are simply false.”

The board will re-evaluate the fee schedule in 2014.

The policy groups various local organizations into different classes. Each class will be charged depending on the venue they want to use and exact room or athletic field at each venue.

Class one organizations include school classes, extra-curricular clubs, including booster clubs, and the Parent Teacher Organization. They will not be charged, except for a $45 custodial fee in certain cases.

Class two organizations include municipal government entities or communty groups formed for charitale, civic, social, or educational organizations, and organizations indirectly related to hte schools, including the Boys & Girls Club, the PAL, and the little league.

Class three organizations include private groups and organizations. 

A copy of the policy has been attached to this article.

The recommended fee schedule is as follows:

Type of Facility Class 2 Class 3 Elemetnary School
Classroom $150 $200 Cafeteria $200 $300 Media Center $200 $300 Auditorium $300 $350 All-Purpose Room/Gym $300 $350 Clay Ball Field** $300 $150 Middle School
Classroom $200 $250 Cafeteria $300 $400 Media Center $300 $400 Auditorium $400 $500 All-Purpose Room/Gym $400 $600 Clay Ball Field $200 $300 Soccer Grass Field $300 $400 High School Classroom $250 $350 Cafeteria $400 $500 Media Center $400 $500 Auditorium $500 $600 All-Purpose Room/Gym $600 $800 Clay Ball Field $200 $300 Soccer Grass Field $300 $400 Turf Field (day) $450 $550 Turf Field (dusk) $500 $650

Fees are based on a four-hour use.

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Nose Wayne May 17, 2012 at 03:42 PM
ALL,Like i said in the first post,WHY WAS NOT A MEETING between all involved before all of this HIT THE FAN? Their is THE RIGHT WAY AND THE WAYNE WAY!!!!! COME AND WATCH THE CIRCUS TONIGHT, ABOUT THE ONLY FREE THING YOU GET TO SEE IN WAYNE ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michael L Bubba May 17, 2012 at 03:53 PM
@WayneEducator I am curious how a PR Firm and the assistant superintendent that wasn't needed is focusing district money on instruction?
George May 17, 2012 at 04:26 PM
@ Michael Bubba...excellent point @Wayne Educator....how does $300 charge for a 4 hour period to use a gymnasium seem reasonable when the maintenance staffing is in the buiilding regardless whether a function is going on or not. What are the incremental costs incurred by the BOE in that case? What for, cost of utilities? That maybe a few dollars but not $300 to $400 depending on the school.
Potter May 17, 2012 at 04:40 PM
Like LAX2009 I also heard that there was a meeting scheduled with John Maso, the director of building services. The concerned organizations were contacted by mail and asked to attend and only one organization showed up, I believe it was the PAL but I'm not certain. An attempt was made to do this "The Right Way" but people needed to show up and they didn't.
Nose Wayne May 17, 2012 at 05:13 PM
Maria,The BOE has ALREADY PRIVATETIZED cutting and maintaining the lawns at both the middle school and high school level.Elementary will be next.You see the shape their in.Wasn't that way when the BOE MAINTENANCE STAFF took care of the field.Like i said "you get what you paid for".Where do you think these fees will go?
Fight Now for Wayne Schools May 17, 2012 at 05:29 PM
This current Board of Ed in Wayne has made a mockery of our town! Their incompetence has made us the talk of the state! Their arrogance is one that needs to be stopped! This new Super has been a disaster in a very short time! In case you’re not paying attention he is in the process of bringing many of his colleges from Hackensack and Paterson to take the leadership positions in Wayne! Wayne was recently ranked in the top 50 of schools! Hackensack was 198, Orange was 320, and Paterson 290! I guess those districts have been the model of success! He has narrowed his choice of the Wayne Hills Principal position to the Hackensack HS principal who was recently let go and a Middle School principal from Orange! He never even considered the qualified VP’s in the district with the exception of token 20 min interviews. Now some of the great VP’s that are being passed over from the district are looking to get out! Who can blame them! Do you know he just hired an IT director from Paterson’s district who was recently working at Best Buy! Are you kidding!
Fight Now for Wayne Schools May 17, 2012 at 05:30 PM
If you are ok with him hiring an assistant super, who was a friend of his in Paterson for big money, replacing principals because board members don’t like them with political favors from failing districts, replacing the board attorney to put in his former colleague, reorganizing our athletic departments in a way that has failed in 3 similar districts over the last couple of years and finally, and hired a PR firm that he apparently doesn’t use, then just sit back and do nothing! The fact is, if we sit back and do nothing, our kids are going to suffer, our taxes will increase, and the value of our homes will decrease! It was not long ago that our school system and programs were the model of what others aspired to be! It is why many of us chose this town and moved here. If you are fed up and want to put an end to this you can! Attend tonight’s, May 17th Board of Ed meeting and tell them to end this crusade of destroying this district! We all have the power in November to begin the process and get qualified board members, however, look at the damage being created before then. Remember they control and spend 100's of millions of dollars of our money, and yet they walk out, hide behind the new lap tops we all bought them and don’t even pay attention when citizens get up to speak to them at a meeting!! Stand up and demand your voice be heard before its to late!
Maria May 17, 2012 at 05:38 PM
While is seems reasonable for a 4 hour time period, are you aware that this is th cost up to 4 hours.... So if a field is utilized for only and hour the cost is still $500 or when a classroom is used for an hour brownie meeting the cost is still $200. It's sad that the BOE, and those supporting this don't understand that inevitably the children will be the ones who suffer. Again, it has not been specified where the $ will go that the BOE is charging the tax payers for using these facilities. Maybe it will be to offset the new assistant super or the public relations specialist they added to their payroll
Pad May 17, 2012 at 06:12 PM
I have told you all from the beginning. He is lining up his friends for jobs in Wayne. The Asst. Super offered a job to someone I know less than a week after she was hired. The law firm just recieved a contract from Hackensack where he just came from. Do we need a PR firm & Administrators from losing school districts? The answer is No, No, No. This BOE is horrible. These two bozo's will soon be out just like the last two with thier pockets full of our hard earned tax dollars. Fee's should be paid by out of town groups and for profit organizations. The PAL, Boy's Club, Wayne Little league, Girl & Boy Scout's etc shouldn't have to pay a dime. Most of thier adminstrators and members are Township residents who pay taxes. This is an utter disgrace. Attn Paul K! If you think bringing all your friends in for six figure jobs and contracts then you need your head examined. Look at his past Districts they are rife with nepotism, illegal dealings and contracts etc. Not to mention they are failing districts also. Wait till a certain employee at Anthony Wayne's concerning her former District get out. The sh-t is really gonna hit the fan. Someone will be explaining how she got hired in the Wayne District.
Nose Wayne May 17, 2012 at 06:28 PM
Pad,Like i said before,THERE IS THE RIGHT WAY AND THE WAYNE WAY. Hope to see all at the CIRCUS tonight! BRING POPCORN, or maybe the board members will be selling it for $100 a bag to screw the taxpayers some more.
Robert Keenan May 17, 2012 at 06:48 PM
Hi everyone. A bunch of us are standing up to protest this movement through a new facebook community. You can help by Liking the page at http://www.facebook.com/FightFieldFees. As for the sup[er, I'm not sure if he's doing a good or bad job. But, this is a bad decision. It hurts the kids and it will ultimately mean more money out of a taxpayer's pocket. We have to stand up and say no to that type of approach.
Kit Rogers May 17, 2012 at 07:59 PM
Funny I was at a Super Bowl party (jan or feb) when my Bergen county friend told me that someone he knew was the new athletic director in Wayne?.....Interesting bc this was before the decision was made to make one AD!!!!!! I I thought he was nuts but I guess he knew more about what was going on than I did!,,,,,
lerizzo May 17, 2012 at 09:13 PM
I agree w/M Bubba-drop the assistant super & PR firm-bring back Outdoor Lab & scrap this sports BS.
Pad May 17, 2012 at 09:36 PM
Probably your friend was telling the truth. They are bringing in all their friends to feed at the Wayne Taxpayer's expense. Every new hire should be looked at closely including his former district and his ties to the new Super and his Asst. The people who blindly support the Wayne BOE should really open their eyes and see what is really going on in this town. Instead of listening to the BOE & WEA propaganda that it's for the children. Most of the budget is lining their pockets and the pockets of thier friends. You know the old saying "That a New Broom Sweeps Clean". Well thats just what Gonzalez is doing in Wayne. He's sweeping out all our dirt, just to bring in a fresh new pile of his dirt. Of course all outsider's with no real ties or commitment to Wayne or it's children. Just to their pocketbooks, that's their only interest. C'mon Wayne taxpayers fill it up. Wait till the sh-t hits the fan over someone who is employed at Anthony Wayne Middle School. It will be interesting to see who hired this person with a such an interesting bad background that is freely public knowledge. I guess background checks only apply when you don't know somebody to get you in. Or was this a total blunder on Wayne's part. Who know's? but it will be interesting.
Concerned Citizen May 18, 2012 at 12:45 AM
This is a terrible policy that is hurting our not for profit organizations designed to help our youth. On top of that we are being double taxed for the maintenance of the fields. Whats next, our we going to have to pay a fee to send our children to public schools???
Kitty Kat May 18, 2012 at 04:20 AM
To Pad: Can you explain "Wait till the sh-t hits the fan over someone who is employed at Anthony Wayne Middle School. It will be interesting to see who hired this person with a such an interesting bad background that is freely public knowledge. I guess background checks only apply when you don't know somebody to get you in." this without being so cryptic? You've mentioned this a few times. Are we referring to a teacher, custodian, secretary, vp?
Scondo May 18, 2012 at 11:17 AM
And, in what other area do you not see people bringing in other people that they have worked well with before.
Al Scala May 18, 2012 at 11:46 AM
Scondo.......Bringing in people you're familiar with, that you've worked well with is nothing new. I agree with you. In almost 40 years of being in corporate America, I've seen it many times. However, here's the rub. When you bring in an administrator from a school system that is ranked far lower than ours and their letter rating, (which I don't understand) is also far below ours, ( e.g. Paterson, Hackensack, Orange), then there is some reason for concern. There is a reason these school systems are ranked where they are and certainly an administrator who is part of that system has some culpability in that rating.. We here in Wayne want the best. We want the best administrators, we want the best teachers, etc. We simply want the best for our children. Frankly, I'd like to see more promotions from within. I find it hard to believe we don't have capable people from within to handle these jobs.I also get concerned that this " outsider" knows somebody who knows somebody, and a political favor is being done.Don't be naive. I believe you are quite an intelligent person. Don't think for one minute that our local State Assemblyman, also a former Wayne Mayor, also a former County party leader, also a former County Freeholder doesn't have a say in all this! We can only hope that these "outsiders" are capable independent thinkers who have our children in mind and a goal to constantly improve our system.
Nose Wayne May 18, 2012 at 12:08 PM
Al,THANK YOU!! What is the matter with our Vice-Principals in our schools. Why don't they want to move up to principal? Why look some place else when you have people in our own schools?
Kit Rogers May 18, 2012 at 01:14 PM
I would bet they interviewed and were not chosen.......
Al Scala May 18, 2012 at 02:03 PM
Kit.....sometimes, interviews are held, simply for window dressing. They make sure they go through the process without having any inclination of hiring that person. Now, I'm not saying this is what happened. I do feel that a broader range of candidates hopefully gets us the best person. Naturally, this includes insiders and outsiders. However, someone who has worked in this system for many years, knows the system and all the nuances about it, may be the reasonable choice. I don't see a lot of hiring from within. There is an Ass't Principal in Wayne Hills. Her last name is Weir. ( I think). She applied for the Lafayette Principal position and didn't get it! Personally, I don't know her but have heard very good things about her and that she is very capable and one of the best administrators we have. I'm curious to know why she didn't get the position. They won't tell you why as it involves personnel. Maybe they're just empire building by bringing in outsiders. I honestly don't know. All I know is this. I want to see dedicated, intelligent hard working administrators that want to make this the best system in the State. I want the best for our kids who are our future. I want Wayne to be a model that everybody wants to be like.What's wrong with that?
psk54 May 18, 2012 at 02:11 PM
These fees are not new news. The BOE tried to do this last year but for some reason they were never executed. I am current and soon to former band parent president at Valley. We hold our annual craft fair at the school each year as our main fund raiser. I do not recall the exact amount of the bill but it was not cheap. The realty is it costs a lot of money to clean up and maintain the field and gyms for these events. Case and point. Last weekend the relay for life was held at Wayne Valley. The event was from 4pm to 6am the next day. The lights were on at the field for quite some time and custodial staff was constantly present cleaning up. Should the taxpayers (us) pay for this? Just asking. You can see the conflicts and answers are not so easy. Some would argue that the taxes we are paying should cover all of these expenses. In a perfect world yes, but we are not in a perfect world. It is more than sports and the use of the fields. It is the gym for the Wayne Alliance Basketball Game, it is the auditorium for special events that take place and the list goes on and on. When the fees directly effect us is when we get mad. There are no easy answers here but my strong suggestion to those who use these facilities is go to the BOE and ask to negotiate these fees for your event. You never know what may happen. Try a little honey instead of vinegar.
Scondo May 18, 2012 at 02:27 PM
Yay, Yay Yay to psk54, a voice of calm reason in the hue and cry of reactionary dialogue. A big huzzah for you. Most people do not understand the legal composition: BOE is a seperate entity from Wayne Township. Subject to seperate governance, has seperate facilities and has a public trust. The public trust says that they may not allow private use of the public (BOE) facilities at the cost to the public. The private users must pay for their use. That is why there are accounting methods for determining with precision what the cost are. That is a given, if you want or need to use the facility you must be taking your cost into account. Now as to the second part, The Township of Wayne is apparently using general revenue funds to supply program dollars to these privately run entities withou ever explaining how that came to be. That whole process needs to be examined for it looks almost as if there is some attempt at political control involved in doling out public dollars in this fashion.
Rex miatke May 18, 2012 at 05:13 PM
Agree. This is a mystery to me why they go outside when so many awesome people are right here in the district. We need people in those positions that know and understand Wayne. Wayne is a district that wants the best for our kids and will fight tooth and nail to get the best education for our children. We don't want someone from outside who doesn't hold that same thought process. This is the education for OUR children that we are talking about.
Life Long Wayne Resident May 21, 2012 at 08:36 PM
The policy may have been in place but we have never paid for the fields, other than the permit fee! It is outragous to expect the community to pay for fields that our taxes are support - and yes our community will pay for it through much higher registration fee's. Jerry - how many children do you have that involved in PAL, WLL or B&G? I'm guessing NONE!!!
E. Whopler May 23, 2012 at 01:41 AM
Scondo ... I'm going to say this s l o w l y, so you can understand. The answers you seek will be found in the budgets of the township and both the PAL and WBC. Rather than get the truth, you find it more satisfying to repeat the same mantra over and over. Get your answers and satisfy yourself. How it is a political control issue supporting the organizations that serve the children of wayne, I really don't know. Doling out dollars to support recreation ... it sounds like a communist plot.
E. Whopler May 23, 2012 at 01:59 AM
What was the original deal with the turf fields. Wasn't there a sharing of costs between township green acres funding and boe funding? Didn't the council approve joining in the cost only after securing time for youth sports on the high school turf fields? How does this affect the fee schedule? How does the boe reimburse the township when softball plays at barbour's pond? How much does the boe pay to rent the parking lots they park the buses at by north cave park? Slippery slope all being tossed in our faces to distract from the rampant spending of the boe. PR firms, per diem principals over summer break, macbooks, assistants, on and on. Do they really think we are that stupid? Or do they just know the furor will die down after they distract a few with diversions like field fees. And yes, the BOE is a separate governmental entity. One elected by the taxpayers running facilities paid for by the taxpayers, paying salaries with taxpayer dollars. They want to censor free speech at meetings? Not in America!
E. Whopler May 23, 2012 at 02:01 AM
Where pray tell, did the BOE get the land to build the facilites? From the taxpayers!!!!
E. Whopler May 23, 2012 at 02:04 AM
Does the BOE pay rent to hold meetings at Town Hall? Do they pay for the electric, the heat, cleaning personnel, tv coverage, police??? NO, the taxpayers pick up that tab as well. Separate governance my rear end! More like a parasite living off the lifeblood of the taxpayer.
Nose Wayne May 23, 2012 at 03:24 AM
E.Whopler-I Would say that is a Class 2 Auditorium/Multi-Purpose Room. Price $300 Paid ??? Custodian $45 Paid ?? Here we go again!! Another name for our BOE( BEND OVER EVERYONE)

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