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Town Applying For $1.5 Million For New Athletic Fields

Township holding public hearing Wednesday on county grant application. Officials looking to install soccer, softball, and lacrosse fields on 12 acres of land on Alps Road near DePaul Catholic High School.

A public hearing on a grant to help fund the installation of athletic fields on Alps Road will be held Wednesday during a meeting.

The township is applying for a $1.5 million grant to develop and install athletic fields on 12 acres of land off of Alps Road near Hamburg Turnpike and . The town is applying to the Passaic County Open Space and Farmland Preservation Trust Fund for the money.

Officials want to install soccer, softball, lacrosse, and possibly football fields on the property. The township purchased the land in for $4.5 million in 2006.

The township will also use funds from the state’s Green Acres fund and the county to complete the proposed project.

The township will present the project to the open space committee in September. Officials hope to hear if the town received the grant in December.

The township will go out to bid for the project in the middle of 2013 when funding is in place and a design plan is finalized.

Officials will not know the exact cost of the project until bids come back.

The council meeting begins at 8 p.m. It will be broadcast on cable channel 77 and online.

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stewart resmer June 20, 2012 at 06:50 AM
oh hey, lets get more money for infrastructure, in a township thats already 36 million in the red due to revenue shortfalls?
Wayne's World June 20, 2012 at 12:48 PM
I love recreational sports as much as the next guy but it seems to me that other than the Barbour Pond complex, many fields go unused, particularly at the schools. Maybe I'm just not around enough during the week. I'd love to see the town do something different with the land, like just leaving it as a small patch of nature that isn't to be disturbed. Does anyone know where the property is, exactly? I couldn't tell from the article.
T. Graham June 20, 2012 at 01:08 PM
"The township is applying for a $1.5 million grant to develop and install athletic fields on 12 acres of land off of Alps Road near Hamburg Turnpike and DePaul Catholic High School" theres no other way to describe it. This property was a cow pasture in the 80's and cleared for development in the 90's. It has sat fallow since then. Pro: Perfect place for athletic complex as there are relatively few environmental issues to overcome. Almost no trees to be cut, wetlands to fill, extensive grading or soil movement. Only adjacent to three or four homes (sorry folks). Cons: Traffic is terrible. No money to build this complex especially to placate the expansion of the Depaul Athletic facilities under a sharing plan in place with the township. Borrowing from the State which has no money doesn't make it fiscally sound. It was purchased to prevent development (anything to reduce the tax base). The township owns it now, and it will be completed with or without public consent. If the Council and BOE worked to gether and improved facilities at all taxpayer owned schools we could have some of the finest facilities in the state. Instead we purchase proeprties at the intersection of two of the busiest roads in towns and brag about preserving the townships green spaces.
T. Graham June 20, 2012 at 01:11 PM
I'm sorry they want to borrow from the county. The same entity the council regulary mocks for exessive taxes and fiscal mismanagement. I guess the theory is that if others are getting it so should we.
Ron June 20, 2012 at 01:26 PM
Wayne's world: I can tell you first hand that the fields in the high schools are used every day for games, practice and training by all the varsity teams. Wayne is a large town, and we need to maintain our playing fields. We have teams that win county and state championships and should make sure they have the right tools to excel in their sports
Sandy Fantau June 20, 2012 at 01:34 PM
I don't think the township has a real choice in this matter. With the Board of Ed saying they are going to charge all the clubs for using the fields. It would be nice if the Town and the Board of Ed worked together to improve what we already have. However, I do not see that happening in the near future. Another think to consider is to have the township swim facilities stay open to 11:00 pm. When I went to visit a friend in St. George, Utah, that is what they do out there. I believe the pools do open later In the day then we do. When I asked my friend why they did this, she said because so many people can't use them during the day and it give the teenagers a place to hangout at night. I believe they also have a law that if you are under a certain age you must be home by a certain time. Just a thought.
Mattie June 20, 2012 at 01:36 PM
Lower my property taxes!
Bob June 20, 2012 at 02:55 PM
Its the Wayne way, keep spending in the name of sports, and of course the home owners will be taxed!!!!!!!!! Its the never ending story here.
Tartans June 20, 2012 at 05:14 PM
The baseball field at Lafayette school is used by Little League all during their season (April until Mid June). In the fall it's used for soccer for 5 - 7 year olds I'd guess (they divide into two small fields for the younger kids - especially busy on Saturdays.
Fed up June 20, 2012 at 06:58 PM
I live near Schuyler and APT. The ball field there are in terrible condition. Grass growing in the dirt infield, mound is crooked and lets not even mention the tennis courts, which are unusable. The grass is destroyed by the Canadian geese which are now permanent residents. I would like to know what the money is spent on that the BOE budgets for maintenance of the fields.
Pad June 20, 2012 at 07:19 PM
Another waste of money. The taxpayers will end up paying for the maintenance in the future. Parks & Rec has trouble maintaining the fields they have with limited staff. We have so many fields here we don't need anymore. We need to utilize the ones we have.
Nose Wayne June 20, 2012 at 07:59 PM
Hey Fed Up, They cut the grass thats mostly been done by a private landscaper. Is costing more now than what they were paying their BOE workers. Where's the savings ?
Nose Wayne June 20, 2012 at 08:10 PM
Hey T,Don't NOSE if you looked closely to that property but go behind the old Friendly's and look in the woods. Lot of trees,swamp and brook that runs thru the property (comes out by exit driveway to DePaul) Someone started to fill in just before DePaul because there is a small dirt road chained off on Alps Road. Traffic getting out of there will be a nightmare. DePaul has a policeman in the morning and afternoon so people can get out of the school.
Justice June 20, 2012 at 08:15 PM
More money to the jocks. Hail the god of sports. Disgusting.
Al Scala June 20, 2012 at 09:05 PM
If the development costs more than the 1.5 million they receive in funds, will they build it? Naturally, that depends on cost. Let's say bids come in well over the funding, say 1 mil to 1.5 mil, will they build it? Will it require another traffic light or jug handle? Who pays for that? Ongoing maintenance? Who pays for that? ( We do!) While it's a nice idea to accomodate our children, what is the cost to us taxpayers for this complex now and going forward? Taxes are very high here in Wayne. Would like to get some relief! I don't see this as being a good location for this. This is a busy area, a lot of traffic both on Hamburg and Alps. How will this affect the traffic patterns?
Nose Wayne June 20, 2012 at 10:40 PM
Al, Sure they will build it, money is NOSE object in this town. Then we will only be about 38 or 39 million in the hole. Keep OPEN SPACE OPEN !! I NOSE, Take a small section and make it a NATURE RESERVE for our school kids being they closed the outdoor lab and take the rest and make a COMMUNITY GARDEN. Hey Dan, why don't you do a poll on Patch and see what the residents would like to see put there ? Would be interesting ?
stewart resmer June 21, 2012 at 12:27 AM
Hows about giving some who lost their homes in the floods an opportunity to relocate there instead? A new city constructed trailer park for those driven out, where they can pay affordable rents, or own? Even a shelter for the next emergency?
Pad June 21, 2012 at 12:28 AM
Either way its our tax money being spent on unneeded sports fields. We pay enough taxes already and the grant money doesn't come free. All they know how to do is spend in Wayne. How can we keep taxes low if we keep adding sports fields, buildings, parking lots etc. These all have to be maintained, kept up and also kept under watch for crime activity and vandalism. They keep adding and we keep paying. Taxes go up and more residents and buisnesses leave our town.
Fred Ritsema June 21, 2012 at 11:24 AM
we have enough fields, clean up sheffield
Al Scala June 21, 2012 at 12:44 PM
These are difficult times and have been difficult now for the past 5 to 6 years. High unemployment, gasoline prices through the roof, food prices high, * been to the supermarket lately) municipal, county and BOE taxes all going up, year after year. We need to do more with less. Instead of building fields and an athletic complex which require ongoing maintenance costs, why not keep the land open and put something there that is sustainable with no maintenace or ongoing costs. We don't need more expense. We need less. Get better utilization from all of the current athletic fields we already have. Keep the space open, but in a use that there is no ongoing cost. What that may be, I'm not sure, but I'm sure the braintrust we have in this town could figure something out!
Wayne's World June 21, 2012 at 12:54 PM
Al - I still believe most of the public just doesn't get it. These aren't just difficult times, we are going through a momentous shift in world economic power, with the main result that Americans are losing their economic power. This has been happening since approximately 1970 and is now here to stay. The problem is that our economic system and particularly our government is still operating as though it's the go-go 1980s. Wages have not increased since 1998, although inflation on just about everything is in double digits since then. That means the average American household has lost at least 15% of its purchasing power since just 1998, and that doesn't even include the slide in the dollar which has only exacerbated the issue. All this is happening as the American high school dropout rate is increasing, workers' relevant skills are eroding and high-paying jobs are fewer and further between and only for the educated. Declining gov't revenues are the new normal, for at least the next generation, so priorities have to be shifted. I read yesterday that 140 counties in the U.S. have reduced the school week to only 4 days due to budget cuts! Instead, lots of entitlement programs ought to be cut. Governments around America need to CUT all but the essentials. The problem is, we have the same leverage as Greece - unsustainable levels of debt that falls on the shoulders of each American. That weight is already dragging us down collectively. It's gonna be 2008 again soon.
Wayne's World June 21, 2012 at 12:59 PM
Taxes are the BIGGEST issue that illustrate what is going on in America. Fully 51% of American workers DO NOT OWE federal taxes. Why? Because they don't make enough money to qualify to even have to pay the lowest marginal rate of 10%. What does this mean? The other half of us are carrying what is already a welfare state. I won't even say it's out of laziness - there are simply not enough jobs left for ditchdiggers - all at a time when young men are dropping out of school in record numbers. Officially, 1 in 6 Americans (that's 17%!) are living in poverty, but we all know the number is more like 2.5 in 6 because the official definition of the poverty line is a joke. In essence 33% of this nation can't feed, house or clothe itself. Add in divorce, single-parent families, drug abuse, 50% obesity rates, health care, etc. and the picture gets bleaker. In essence, this country is turning into a banana republic, so you'll either be a have or a have not from here on out. Wayne is on the upside of that bubble but not by much. We are teetering as a community. It's a sad state of affairs and one that is unl
Wayne's World June 21, 2012 at 01:04 PM
I thought the one hope to right the ship would be the immense transfer of wealth from baby boomer's to generations X and Y. Well, due to longer life spans, the baby boomers insatiable desire to spend money and have a good time, and good old fashioned greed, the future of this roughly $17 billion transfer is very much in doubt. CNBC just did a poll of wealth and middle class American baby boomers, and fully 55% of them said they have no intention of leaving their children ANYTHING. And statistics show that most middle class people will probably mostly outlive their money. I don't know what the solution is, but severly reforming the income and corporate tax structure at all levels of gov't MUST be the first start. After that, ALL entitlement programs need to be cut severely and the govt has to go back to basics. The problem with that is that people will essentially have to go back to fending for themselves the way our ancestors did, except our society no longer has the space or the skills to go back to subsistence living in an agricultural setting. I just don't see a good way out of this without the weight of our fiscal problems completely collapsing on us at every level of government.
Al Scala June 21, 2012 at 01:17 PM
Wayne's World...you bring up excellent and prevalant points. We have States that are on the verge of bankruptcy. Bigger yet, there are countries that are bankrupt causing other countries to bail them out! The public officials just don't get it. They never have and I don't care what party they're from. That's because they can spread it out over thousands and thousands of taxpayers. $99 may not sound like much, but what people don't get is how many households and business' here in town are paying that increase? Many, very many! Public sectors should run as lean as possible, because it's the public;s money. I don't know about you, but I'm working harder to make less. I made more money 10 years ago. I have to laugh at the average assessment thay talk about on homes. Why not plug all business' into that equation and show us the real average assessment in this town. They are masters at spinning info.All I know is that my increase will not be $99, it will be much more than that based on the assessed value of my home and I still have to take two more hits, relative to the County increase and BOE increase!
Al Scala June 21, 2012 at 01:22 PM
If our Founding Fathers could see what this country has become, I think they would have had second thoughts and they would have swam back to England!
Jorgey June 21, 2012 at 03:27 PM
"Well, due to....., baby boomers insatiable desire to spend money & have a good time, & good old fashioned greed....." Well said Waynes World! Sad when VP Biden refers 2-people who have savings "privileged"! Greed+Good time spending does NOT=Underprivileged, disadvantaged. Once upon a time we paid taxes & could expect SS @ age 62-65, now they continue 2-raise the age "oh u-MAY live till age80? then you can't collect SS till you're 79.5". Its not the taxes people oppose, we've always accepted taxes as a way of life, its the $pending & increases & not gaining much if anything! Well not the private sector that is. Oh unless you count the $1.5 million the "township" spent to "purchase" this land, IDK... where does $1.5 mil come from? Or can we say the field belongs to the citizens (taxpayers)?
Jorgey June 21, 2012 at 04:00 PM
".... average assessment thay talk about on homes. Why not plug all business' into that equation and show us the real average assessment in this town." Al Scala. So true Al. During a tax appeal/Bergen Cty much 2-my surprise, shock I learned "they" are allowed 2-B off in their #'s by "15%" (FMV) I still can't process that info! Lets imagine your boss discovering (need i specify in the PRIV. Sector) U-were off in YOUR #'s by 15%, FIRED ring a bell? A business OVERchargin an ENTIRE town by 15%! ONE home THEY value at $1mill could result in $150K error? IDK has any1 noticed how blatant,in your face these things are & theres no sign of it (them) stopping either? This ON TOP of the 'hidden' shady dealings we later hear about in the news! We didn't move 2-PinesLke-- 2-expensive & taxes WAY 2-hi, only 2-find we're paying similiar in taxes; they have a huge lake! And to top it all off, they're coming down on pharmacys & Drs @ a time I SO need a pill........
Nose Wayne June 21, 2012 at 07:51 PM
Al I'll get the boat!!

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