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Poll: Should the Wayne Adult School Be Shut Down?

School lost more than $60,000 previous two school years.

The has , more than $62,000, in the last two academic years.

The school had an operating loss of more than $25,400 for the 2009-2010 school year. For the 2010-2011 school year, the school had an operating loss of $36,900, resulting in a deficit of more than $27,700.

Should the Board of Education shut the school down? Should officials offer more technology-based programs geared toward younger residents?

Let us know how you feel about the situation by answering the poll and posting comments below this article.

Scondo December 21, 2011 at 08:22 PM
Small wonder why they lost money, have you seen the course selections ? Make it interesting and they will come, continue the same old same old stale offerings and they will go away. OPunch it up folks.
Joe videodummy December 21, 2011 at 09:28 PM
yep. they can make more money in "rent". they could lease it out to private organizations that collect membership fees like r/c hobbiests, war-gaming, pokemon, chess, craft-making, tech, model building etc. not only will it be giving back to the community, it will give the pre-teens/teens and adults a place to go, learn, teach, create, and enjoy them selves by working with there hands and minds. link all of the adult course studies into a town portal and charge a connection fee. the pubic school student/teacher portal would be free to all attending students/parents.
Scondo December 21, 2011 at 09:37 PM
I really have wanted to sign up for some courses. Like Dog Obedience, but it is offered at 11 AM, not something that can really be fit into a working schedule easily.
alice moskowitz December 22, 2011 at 02:04 PM
Before deciding to shut it down, a committe should look into enrollment patterns, ways to attract more students, upgrade the program offerings and perhaps share programs and facilities with other nearby districts.
Bob December 22, 2011 at 02:18 PM
I have to agree with the comments made by Alice. Adult education is a valuable tool for our community. Maybe what needs to be done is a detailed review of the courses offered vs the attendance & if the attendance is low cancel out that course. Maybe we should offer the adult education to other towns and attract more students. Have the instructors ever been evaluated that just maybe be a reason the attendance is low. I would not recommend we abandon this adult education program.
Al Scala December 22, 2011 at 02:26 PM
This program made money for many years. This current Board has driven this program into the ground. Over the last 3 years or so, there have been 3 different co=ordinators assigned to this program. What's wrong with this picture? The Board is trying to look like a hero here by cutting a money losing operation. What they're not telling you is that this program made money for many years when Pat Kniesel was running it. They took her out of there and the 2 following co=ordinators drove it down the toilet! Transparency? Right! If you mismange something, the likelihood is it's going to lose money.Fix it and make it a winner again. The profits could possibly offset other operating costs within the budget.
Joe videodummy December 22, 2011 at 07:20 PM
Co ordinators didn't drive the adult education system into the ground. The loss of Federal funds have dwindled, and that meant reductions of grants supporting career training, technology education, health care, and a host of other programs. The town struggled this year to pass a school budget, and next year 'who knows' where the money is going to come from. As it stands right now, expect lay-off's not Federal Stimulas Funds. Adult education in the form of classic text book class-room style learning is being offered at a wholesale right now, and our town already has a deficit of 62K. That's one teachers salary we already threw away. The fact that the Adult School or other businesses made money many years ago has no bearing on the fact that they are no longer making money today, and the reasons are because the 'scope' of the business has changed. The "model" of obtaining the information has moved away from the old standard of 2 hours a day, 2 times a week starting in the spring or in the fall. Students want all of the information up front, so they can see it, organize it, and decide how long it's going to take to expedite it into a useful resourse, or discard it. Adults needing career training don't have 6 months of weekly course training either. They need the vital information immediately. They can't afford school closures, early dismissals etc. They need the information at their finger-tips...right now!!! It's called a PORTAL.
Al Scala December 22, 2011 at 09:07 PM
Joe, I agree with you in part and disagree as well. I'll explain. Most people who take adult school courses are not your young techno savvy preppies. They 're people like myself who may want to take a course to obtain a real estate license, or possibly a computer course to learn how to build a website. I would think that is your staple. Can this be done online? Sure it can. However, that may scare away some people. Make this program attractive. Offer things people want. Streamline it and make it efficient. I think it can be a winner if run properly.
Cathy Kazan December 23, 2011 at 02:54 AM
I agree with Mr. Scala and Mrs. Moskowitz. There has been a revolving door at the adult school and it was running very efficiently under Mrs. Kneisal when she was the director before. I also like the idea of sharing the service with a nearby town who may also be struggling with enrollment. I feel the program needs to be given a chance and steady leadership to get it going again. It's not time to throw in the towel on a long standing community service like this. I think the new superintendent may also have some ideas in this area. He just started, let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Joe videodummy December 23, 2011 at 06:28 AM
There are some really good programs at the adult school, but not enough for the school to stand on it's own without aide and support for the town and the government. From a tax payer's stand-point, I wouldn't want to lose any services, teachers, police etc. but if I had to make the decision of "something has to go" to close a deficit, I would have to look closely at the things that are losing money. What generally comes up is township libraries, pools, sports/recreation programs, the adult school, then the hard line items like teachers, and salaries. Losing any teachers has to be at the bottom of the list- looking up. Just above that would be losing the library ( I hope that never happens ). It's a tough call to make, especially when we have to consider the "model" of elected school board officials currently driving our education system into despair by their lack of representation on all other matters. It almost justifies closing the adult school in order to keep them away, and eliminating any chances of losing any-more money on keeping it open.
Al Scala December 23, 2011 at 12:52 PM
Alice......Sharing programs and services is always a good idea to cut costs. I hear a lot of talk about it, but just don't see it come to fruition. My personal take on this is that the trustees or town council are afraid of losing control of something. They put their self interests ahead of the taxpayer.
Squeakyfoot December 23, 2011 at 07:59 PM
The best way to change the direction of the Adult School is to change the policy that governs the activities and courses that are being taught. The policy should be turned over to the principals of our schools, not the BOE or the Superintendent of Schools. New teachers should also be hired by the principals of the schools, not the Superintendent or the BOE. The BOE is a voluntary board of both elected and appointed members. For many of them it's not about changing anything while they are there. "They are there" and that's all that matters. The decisions made by the members should be the same duties awarded to those that win an opportunity to be "Mayor for a Day". Here we're being asked to give an opinion on whether the Adult School should be closed because it's losing money, but under the same rules and assessments we should be asked if we should close the BOE because they are also losing money through the same "poor decision" making process. In my opinion, the school should stay, and the board should be replaced- and they an take the Police Chief with them. This is the worst group of misfits that have been here since I've been here ( 1962 ).

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