Hopefully the BOE, sticks by this decision, any doesn't let itself get bullied again.

When the public believes in the government: That is Tryanny
When the government believes in the public: That is Liberty
When the government and the public agree : That is Change

This all could have been avoided if Olsen had sat the nine players out at the Vernon game. Hills could of won that game with the remaining players available. Instead he blamed the superintendent. As head coach he can play or not play any eligible dressed player for that particular game without question,message would have been received the mass majority would of been happy,Olsen could of come out looking like a respectable person and coach but instead he went in the opposite direction pitted neighbor against neighbor and caused irreparable damage to the people of Wayne. The leaders of the BOE are culpable in all of this also the let the biggest bully in Wayne get his way. It took a threatening letter from the Passaic County Prosecutor to wake up the BOE and their poor choice for legal council.

I agree wholeheartedly. I think he should be let go. What kind of an example is he setting for our children. He is an embarrassment to the Town of Wayne and we need to disassociate with someone like that. I believe the Board should call for immediate resignation for Coach Olsen. Maybe they can get a real man with real morals to take his position. They may not be able to beat a team 48-0 if they take on a new coach, but at least we will be able to told our heads high again as a town, and know that once their four-year stint as football players in high school is over, we are raising kids who know right from wrong and who are accountable for their actions. After all, there IS life after high school football. I still say shame, shame, shame on the parents for listeing to this oversized Bully to begin with. Shame on the Board for backing down just because there was a ridiculous showing of the suited up Hills boys consuming the first 2 rows, donning their new black uniforms - having Coach Olsen stare into the face of every board member in a bullying manner. I do think we should also try to get rid of the rivalry between Valley and Hills and separate the two teams so they don't play one another.

Whether one agrees that the kids should play or not play - our Board of Education looks incredibly indecisive. This BOE should all be recalled. They've consistently made an absolute mess over the superintendent position and have now created a debacle with their waffling over this current matter. The BOE believes these players give Wayne a black mark - they're not doing too well themselves. If they had integrity, they'd all resign so we could start from scratch (but I fear they'd change their minds the next day). Hence, recall them all.

The BOE handled this whole situation poorly. Now they made an even worse decision with the hopes of getting reelected. It's not about kids playing or not playing. As I said before just having the meeting potentially puts the criminal case at jeopardy. If the kids play they still face the consequences of the criminal case. Their has been case law that states " no private or public authority should make any decisions that could effect the outcome of a legal trial before the trial takes place." What the BOE did COULD be the deciding factor in the legal case. Which could open the whole town up to a law suite from either side of the courts decision. All because people are. Screaming for blood regardless of any innocent people that get hurt in the process. Just because the board couldn't take the heat. Sometimes doing the "right thing" isn't a matter of making a decision but waiting until all the information is available. Can't wait to see how much money this is gonna cost the town in the long run.

The BOE FINALLY took of their skirts and made a choice. Now if we can ONLY get Olsen run out of town, along with ALL the members of the BOE. Wayne has become the laughing stock of Northern NJ thanks to these Bozo's. Hoping that each and everyone of these 9 players gets whats coming to them. Thanks, Wayne Hills, Thanks Coach Olsen, thanks BOE...Good Job...Ya right.

Still in town 78 will NEVER get what this is about . I feel sorry for her and her children. Another missed opportunity

Our BOE has showed us how incredibly INDECISIVE they are. They have flip flopped to the point of embarrasment. Pavlak should step down as President as he shows no leadership at all. The Board attorney should be fired, although that would piss Rumana off and God forbid, the Board could not do that. They're all beholden to him. Personally, I'm happy these kids are banned from playing. They should have been banned from the getgo, in my opinion. This whole matter has been a huge embarrasment to Wayne and poorly handled from the outset. It's downright embarrasing. These BOE trustees need to go!

I hope you cry babies are happy now. So much for the great USA and innocent until proven guilty. Let’s not let the facts get in the way. There is a lot more to this story than has been told. These “victims” were not left unconscious in the streets. They were conscious and actually walked to the Police car and were sitting there waiting for the ambulance.
Listening to the media you would think they were left in the streets to die.These “victims” were actually the aggressors earlier in the evening at a previous fight . I am not condoning violence; however, no action should have been taken until the Passaic County Prosecutor has completed the investigation. THEN……… if they are guilty, let them have the proper consequences.
If they were not on the football team, this would not be the big deal that it is. This was a fight between high school kids. High School fights have always happened and always will.

Start with Pavelic, Cerberio,and Hutchinson the others are good people three of them just got in this year they were railroaded by the board attorney she definitely has to go we can get bad legal advice for free why pay her. When our new super takes over we can go get rid of the attorney first then get the other three when they become a big enough distraction they will leave.

They were arrested and charged it is up to the judicial system to determine guilt or innocents the BOE finally did the right thing. Just imagine if it were your kid that was ganged up on I bet you would have a different tune. Enjoy the game from the side lines.

The entire board, new and old obviously all agreed with a 9-0 vote to let them play. Shame on anyone who did not vote with their own intention. I am fond of the whole board, they are all good people, I just know they really dropped the ball on this one and made a hugh mistake. Sometimes good people make mistakes....it doen't have to be a cause for personal attacks. As for their ability to serve..well that's for the voters to decide. That's when their record will speak for them.

Finally standing behind the Code of Athletics #5 as written @ http://www.wayneschools.com/schools/high/waynevalley/athletics/.
There is much rejoicing in the town of Wayne. The town can start to heal now. Hopefully the victims can too!

Ira I'm so glad you have such strong convictions. But this just goes to show how well You misinterpret any information that's given to you. First I'm a dude second as I told you before I don't have kids. It just proves you don't read between the lines and you only read and hear what you want and don't absorb all the facts. I bet you are gonna be the first one screaming when the township has to pay a large settlement for there mistake. The meeting shouldn't have taken place.

@ rocket. Well said!

i hope there is a law suit from the alleged perps. that would give us all a good laugh, empty their pockets of $$, and set new proper well defined case law. I say BRING IT ON!! i just hope i get to witness the judge's face as he/she has to bite his lip to avoid laughing in their attorney's faces.

@Ira A similar case happened already in north Jersey and the students won. So I don't know why your being sarcastic. A BOE cannot ban someone from extra curricular activities because of something that happened at a non school related event.

Dear rocket and 78,
First of all this situation should never have had to escalate to this point and today's meeting would not have been held. I Truly appreciate the confidence in your conviction about the outcome of the game. There was one level of defeat, St. Joes. Yes they are Parochial but like you said, "coaching and execution on the field is all that matters". As Mike Quick ends his Tuesday's MSGVarsity program, I am going to put a face on Old Tappan. This is coming from a Hills Grad many years ago. If I am wrong I'll buy you and "78" a beer.
Take care!

still in town 78 continues to make things up to support her case. maybe you should read the NJ HIB policy.

Oh Mike you are jsut a good Cop!

As to a few of the recommendations of this inept BOE: 1) There is a Code of Conduct; 2) Consider creating a position of school disciplinarian?... Wouldn't that be the principal?3) Ask the State Attorney General to monitor the case as to the bullying statute: this case is so muddied already thanks to the BOE, they should just stay out of it. Whether one agrees or disagrees with the decision (the most recent one as of 11/25 - it may change again), please remember how poorly this entire board handled this situation when school board elections come up in the spring.

@Ira once again I can appreciate your lack of reading comprehension. But once again you proved you only read What you want too. I'm a dude. But what is the definition of a bully? I'll even write it in caps so it stands out. But you have to do your part and read of a couple of times. I Just want to make sure you understand it.

IT IS THE REPEATED " ILL WRITE IT AGAIN "THE REPEATED"" ACT OF VERBALLY PHYSICALY OR IN ANY OTHER WAY OF HARASSING SOMEONE!" REPEATED where is the repeated part of any of this except for you repeatedly writing false information.

Ie. Of a bully you calling me a girl

Repeatedly

STILL IN TOWN -
INTIMIDATION - 9 football players (juniors and seniors) chasing down 2 sophomores to beat them to a pulp- INTIMIDATION. Does your husband know you are posting on this forum?

So because I proved to you that its not bullying you changed your words. Good way to not prove anything.

Nice try are you going to post something intelligent?

Good Decision.

This controversy is defiitely causing a disruption to both schools. At least there is a plan for the BOE to offer some programs moving forward to hopefully not be at this place again.

News Channel 12 said some/all of the players will appeal this decision to the courts.
This ain't over yet.

still in town - you are way to clever. please research the HIB policy in NJ. The policy that all students are subject to in AND out of school. HARASSMENT - INTIMIDATION - BULLYING. And you have only proved 1 thing to me so far. You are a dolt. I think your husband is calling for you to get off the computer and stop making a fool of yourself.

Okay, I wanna get this straight.
9 WHHS Football players get into a fight and are charged with Ag Assault during football season. Suspended from playing Championship game. Got it.

4 WVHS students get arrested at WV/WH Football game for CDS.
Suspended from school for at least 2 weeks, with taxpayer tutor.
Still allowed to participate in their up coming respective sports. Got it.
Will let my child know not to make mistakes in season.

@ira So you are using the term bully why? Because your using words that suite your needs. And all the hib stuff I'm reading I don't see where it applies because it wasn't a repetitive situation. All this happened in one night.

i give up. you are too stupid to deal with.

Lets be clear people, the Ramapo / Indian Hills case was related to alcohol, not assault, and the judge ruled the school board was enforcing a policy not in line with the state statutes at the time relating to off campus activities. Wayne's decision relates to actual arrests for aggravated assault and the BOE can clearly relate those activities to the recently enacted H I B laws in the code which may in fact relate to actions off campus. Not a clear parallel by any means.

Well said Clarence.

But a case could be made non the less! I feel anyway. And as far as the hib laws it sounds like a far stretch because the 2 valley kids also got charged.

they should forfit champonship game no brainer. everbody out of town olsen and his thugs still in championship wheres nj district attorny sleeping /hangover. game should not count / paramus should be in championship.. i guess if gov. corzine can steal 600 billion dollers from clients and take the 5th amend. in front of congress gangsters dec, 15 . maybee the ego j erk olsen can still coach. would any normal parent want the child playing for a coach the should be examended by docters. meybee hes the next sandusky./joe parenro. only time will tell if any of the goverment clowns check him out /background check himm

so what their banned idiots. the in a championship game/ doesent make sence

payoffs gansters still at large

The Valley kids should be charged, and punished and sent to community service and anger management therapy along with th group from hills.

paramus should be their team olsen steriod head should be on suspension until outcome fromcourt system must be held accountable for teams action on/ of field

stop the playoffs christie get of the couch / stop eating do something are you another corzine in the making . whos money are you stealing corzines

we need a super commitie obama can pick it = good outcome

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put a tie on how did you mother raise you . boe picture is a pay per view background checks please . lazy piece of c ra ps elected to work with golden parachute pensions their laughing all the way to the bank on taxpayers expence

put a tie on in nexp picture / and zip up your zipper

Okay, Need a clarification. It's July or August, school is out for summer, the victims are from PIgsknuckle Arkansas High School. Same charges, ag assault. What's the call?
My child needs to know!

So the future of the politics for many of our board members, and our township has been decided by a football coach,a high-school sports team, and a game that hasn't even been played yet !

great article.

http://www.nj.com/hssports/blog/football/index.ssf/2011/11/dalessandro_in_wayne_hills_assault_case_school_board_finally_sees_the_light_and_finds_the_high_road.html

The Unspoken Assumption of Failure.
1. Enthusiam
2. Disillusionment
3. Panic and Hysteria
4. Search got the guilty
5. Punishment of the innocent
6. Praise and Honor for the nonparticipants

WWD clarification the point is all 9 were arrested on indictable criminal charges for what they allegedly did, not who they did it to.That is what I would and have explained to my children. I hope this helped. Sincerely

30 years ago 8 student athletes and I committed a crime in Wayne. There are many similarities to the current situation that is being questioned today. Howerever, we (the guilty students) acted differently. We were going to have privledges taken away from our entire class if we didn't turn ourselves in. the next day, we all went down to the police station and turned ourselves in. We knew that there was going to be consequences but we did it anyway because we knew it was the right thing. We appologies to everyone for what we had done and we took care of our crime. Without being asked, we did 2 weeks of community service. When it was time to face the judge in court we had everyone in the town supporting us, parents, teachers, students. The judge was very proud of us and our actions that we personally shook all of our hands and thanked us for being such great roll models. Today, most of us have moved away and we have all turned out to be great leaders in our communities. We are all great fathers and loving husbands none of us have been divorced.

Maybe, what this town needed was a true leader in one or more of these boys to stand up and admit to what they have done like we did 30 years ago and this issue will go away and a leader will emerge.

to the apologists:
that will be a real test of "the family" concept that olsen instills in his program. if the innocent play then the 9 alleged will be exposed for the world to see. If the innocent players and their families truly believe these 9 have been so wronged then they should just forfeit in unison. But we all know this is about football and the quest for the championship and that trumps all. If they play then they are all hypocrites. if they play will the apologists call them out?, NO...you will just continue to twist things and make excuses and make sure there is no accountability or responsibility taken. you are a part of the problem

The code of conduct varies from school to shool in Wayne. The BOE wants to set a "unified law" in place. At the time of the incident ( Oct.29th ) the code of conduct did not include a students actions off of school grounds. Maybe it did in Wayne Valley, but not in Wayne Hills. The ruling today is illegal, the Superior Court will have to over-turn the decision unless the BOE can prove other-wise.
Residents don't seem to understand that the rules for the 2 high-schools are different, and although they are going to be the same, right now they are not.
Don't blame coach Olsen for following the rules. He's following the rules that are with-in his guidlines.
"You can't make this stuff up" !!! The BOE should all be fired.

squeakyfoot - that is an outright lie. the students responsibility handbook has been on their website all along. it refers to the HIB policy also. why do you still defend there actions? Are you a parent? is responsibility and accountability not in your vocabulary ? does everyone of societies rules need to be layed out in front of you for signature of receipt and understanding? has common sense lost you altogether?

http://www.wayneschools.com/schools/high/waynehills/student_responsibilies/

I was being facetious and do not need any clarification from you. All things being equal with different victims what would be the decision.
Read what you write, "allegedly". Pay attention

This is not about Football or Olsen.
What if this was 9 Band Members?
Like that would happen.
You all want Goliath to fall because you were picked on as kids.
You all want government to hold your hand and protect you from the boogie man.

I think it's safe to say that no matter what people are going to bitch about this.
Look, even if these WV kids provoked the fight or started it or whatever, they were the ones kicked and beaten. Not the WH kids. I tell my own students all the time to make the right decision when being provoked by another student, and that is to be the bigger person and walk away. Because if they take action themselves and decide to throw a punch, they will ultimately be the ones getting in trouble for the bigger offense. The WH kids didn't walk away and committed the bigger offense. For all we know the WV boys started it. But we will never truly know. What we do know is that they were beat up, and I hope they're doing okay. And there needed to be some consequences. If the WH players had just been sat out in the first place this could've been avoided. I am personally disappointed that we don't have a town wide student athlete code of conduct and I think its sad that it takes an incident like this to create one. And even if both schools have their own, there shouldn't be a HUGE difference between them. If there is, well, that's a problem. I just hope we can all move past this. How about taking the steps to make Wayne a respected town once again. Don't keep fueling the fire between schools. Set an example for the kids and encourage them to come back together as WAYNE, not WV and WH.

When did Wayne lose respect? There is no fire between schools.
Back to an earlier question, but I have to be remedially clear for some.
If this had been July or August, and none of these kids played a sport,
would we be having this discussion? It would be and should be a legal issue.

But it would be an issue if the student athlet has a pending criminal charge they should not be in extra curricular sports. That's what the policy should be. Once the school is notified that there is a charge pending the Principal should pull the student and explain no extras till the charges are dropped or settled.
Bad behavior should not be rewarded by no consequence.
Thar already happened and look at the result..empowerment. Let's ask the teacher whose eye was injured at that pep rally if the BOE was any help in validating authority? Kids usually think themselves untouchable as it is....much worse when u have a board that agrees!!!

I cannot understand why 2 schools in the same town have different Codes of Conduct for athletes. It seems like Common Sense that both schools that are supported by the taxpayers of this town would be unified in their expectations of students' behavior. Makes me wonder who decided that the individual school's should create their own Code of Conduct and WHO creates that code?? the Athletic Directors maybe?? I can only hope that the new superintendent will bring stability to the Wayne school district and unify the standards. It's a big job and I hope Mr. Gonzalez is up for it.

agree wholehartedly with john lynch. olsen should be fired immediately !!! had he acted properly and disciplined these players for conduct unbecoming a hills student athlete, we wouldn't be in this turmoil. olsen's career is tainted . calling him a bully is an understatement.

When the 2 valley kids are able to play in sports are they going to be banned? They were charged too.

What's fair is fair

30 years ago, when my friends andI did our crime in Wayne we turned ourselves in for the good of the school. We emerged as heros and today we are all very sucessful.
The alleged students need to admit their fault immediately and all will be saved. I know from experience. The leaders of the accused (parents,clergy,coach, etc) need to step in and get the kids to do the right thing or the team and the town will suffer.

Hypothetically, Lets say any one of you perfect people on this patch is
WRONGLY charged with something by the law. You have not had your say or day in court. Your Boss suspends you from work without pay, and no Christmas bonus.
Your private life has nothing to do with your professional life, Right?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Life lessons need to be taught and obviously the parents of the accused / "charged" players are at the heart of this issue. They have failed miserably as parents! So in an effort to take the spotlight off of their inexcusable lack of basic parenting skills, a twisted group of parents now look to high priced attorneys to defend a child's "right's" to PLAY HS FOOTBALL on the backs of the taxpayers. Remember all school sanctioned extra-curricular activities are PRIVILEGES earned by students and can be taken away at any time period!

If I still lived in Wayne I would start a petition to unify the township and create ONE WAYNE High School sports program. It would save the township millions of dollars long term by eliminating the need for duplicity of resources. This unified "Hills/Valley" system would enable the township to capitalize on its size and pool of student athletes. Just imagine for a moment the town unity and comradery this would create! Wayne citizens cheering for Wayne student athletes what a concept! Wayne, now more than ever, needs leadership and innovative thinking. I sure hope that someone can step up and provide that... sooner rather then later.

I think it is ashame that this whole thing has been handled so poorly. Someone made the comment that all of us writing here want to punish Olsen and WH because we were bullied and need the government to protect us from the boogy man, I'm a Wayne resident and truth be told I never thought about the coach or either football team accept when I read in the paper about some of the great things both teams had done on the field and then thought "hey great way to go" I really wish the coach, parents, school board and other adults would have showed some leadership to these kids

Which brings us back to the question, Frank.
What if they were not football players?
What if they were Bookworms? No LIbrary for you!
So glad you were the child of Donna Reed and never got into any trouble, and if you have children are th model parent. I hope you do not live in a glass house.

Simple, change the jersey numbers and no one will ever know they played!
Wouldn't put it past HIM?

I just hope no one lets the Board hoodwink them with this "new plan they will be taking as a result of this incident" when the truth is they had everything they needed already. Roth already banned the 9 from the games. The Board allowed themselves to be bullied by Olsen. Horrible leadership. Not one of them could muster up the courage or sense to say "I'm sorry coach, folks, the decision has been made.These kids acted badly and we need to send a message to our community and children and follow the code of conduct." NOT ONE.

Now they are back-pedaling and hiding behind this shroud of "Oh gee, the rules were all clouded and we were confused so we will work hard to come up with a new plan." What complete BS. There isn't even an explanation in the article for WHY they waffled and overturned Roth's decision. Other than the implication of feeling pressured by the scores of angry parents and Hills players that showed up to the meeting with Olsen at the helm. If you can't handle angry people disagreeing with a decision then why are you in a position of leadership?

It is good that they finally banned the 9 from games. But obviously it was a political move; they had no other choice really, after the mess they created. These Board members are spineless. We need real leadership. Wayne deserves better. Remeber this at election time!

To the people that are making nasty and derogatory remarks about Wayne Hills, to Coach Olsen, the players, and the parents, you should be ashamed of yourselves. What kind of an example are you making? If you don't know the facts then SHUT UP!! PERIOD. To read some of the things posted, I just shake my head. Obviously it is pure stupidity! Grow up and go do something else! Or write about facts.

Wayne Hills is a fine school with a great football team. I wish them the best.

Listen WWWD (ignoramus) ... it would not matter what extracurricular activities the students were involved in... from the debate team to student government, chorus to the math club the end result for their "actions" would be the same. No such luck with Donna Reed...by the way my parents were Italian immigrants who came to this country in the search for a better life. They worked their tails off and sent me to a Catholic grammar school and high school where corporal punishment was the rule of thumb. I, like most kids, did stupid things but I suffered consequences for them unlike the "spoon fed" kids in question here. It's really sad for me because I coached a few of the boys on both high school football teams travel soccer when they were younger and I hope and pray none were involved in this incident.

I have two children by the way who "knock on wood" know the basic difference between right and wrong. Have I always made the right decisions as a "parent" probably not but in the big picture they are turning out to be model students and citizens.

knowyourfacts
A.K.A Collins, has no kids, surprised you can see the keyboard to type with your lips planted so firmly on Olsen's A$$. You do not know the facts

I love how people are convicting other people before a trial where's the justice in that.

@Simple the reason why you would root for the team is cause of the ones on the team that didn't do anything.

Dory,
I agree. I have many friends who are great people in Wayne. It's time for leadership and healing.

Knowyourfacts,
Maybe you should take a few minutes to read the FACTS. This is a publicly available document that shed's light on a coaches past behavioral patterns that lead to what is happening TODAY. Take the time to READ THE ENTIRE DOC. Everyone here should. http://www.state.nj.us/education/legal/commissioner/308-98.pdf

paramus should be their team olsen steriod head should be on suspension until outcome fromcourt system must be held accountable for teams action on/ of field

stop the playoffs christie get of the couch / stop eating do something are you another corzine in the making . whos money are you stealing corzines

we need a super commitie obama can pick it = good outcome

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paramus should be their team olsen steriod head should be on suspension until outcome fromcourt system must be held accountable for teams action on/ of field

stop the playoffs christie get of the couch / stop eating do something are you another corzine in the making . whos money are you stealing corzines

we need a super commitie obama can pick it = good outcome

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wear a tie you bum from wayne - your scum too

Last time I checked Olsen isn't being investigated for anything. Please explain to me what he's guilty of? something other then. Making one of the most successful football programs in the country? The only thing that any of those players are guilty of right now is being a wayne hills football player.people always are jelious of best. I hope all the people that are already judgeing these kids have nothing but compassion for the ones that are innocent. YOU ARE RUINING THEIR LIVES!!!

olsen is just as guilty as paterno. do you hold the 9 players or their coach accountable at all? or is this whole incident someone elses fault? Are we ruining their lives or is the actions of 10/29 and then the inactions afterwards that are ruining their lives? are you sure you are an adult? i think you are kevin olsen since you spout olsen quotes verbatim.

I will hold who ever is convicted in a trial accountable until then noone should be immature enough to say even the innocent are guilty which is exactly what you and alot of other people are doing. As far as Olsen as far as I know he wasn't there so he shouldn't even be mentioned in any ofvthis

**of this* I don't hear anything about the fact that the 2 Wayne valley players being charged? All I'm saying is the criticism should be equal but all I hear is 9 Wayne hills players when it should be 11 football players from Wayne hills and Wayne valley.

And not reporting child abuse is different then being a football coach who's players where in a fight not a beating like some of you like to say. And if I we're Kevin Olsen how would I be responding during school and practice idiot.

@Ira: Which one is it??? Am I a Woman a Dolt or Kevin Olsen? You cant help but contradict yourself.

Once agian I prove a point you dont like and you have no action but to make fun of me because you dont wan't to hear all the facts. Thank you for proving your prejudice view.

Touch a nerve FRANK????
" from the debate team to student government, chorus to the math club the end result for their "actions" would be the same"
What would be the same Frank, No football championship game for the chorus, math club, glee club? Of course you coached soccer Frank, "It's really sad for me because I coached a few of the boys on both high school football teams travel soccer when they were younger and I hope and pray none were involved in this incident."
Would that reflect on you Frank, would it?

Success is not be measured by the number of wins or state championships you have in the trophy case. Success can be only be measured by the "positive" impact you have on society.
Maybe you should take a few minutes to read the FACTS about a persons character. This is a publicly available document that shed's light on a coaches past behavioral patterns that point to poor judgement, questionable tactics and rogue power which have eventually lead us to todays sad state of affairs. Take the time to READ THE ENTIRE DOC. Everyone here should. http://www.state.nj.us/education/legal/commissioner/308-98.pdf

Let me start off by saying that as a Wayne resident that I'm appailed with the behavior of adults. I can not believe that anyone would blame the Coach for an insident that happened at a private party at a private home during off hours. Boys will fight and this is nothing new in any town in America. But all you people have got to stop holding a coach responsible for the actions of boys on both sides of this issue. This man is like a father to all players who have played and are playing for him, whether it is football, baseball or any other sport that he has coahed and taken time out of his day over there years. He goes out of his way to make sure that all these boys do the right thing by themselves and others. Maybe you all should find out all the facts of the case before jumping to judgement about one person and the program that he has nurtured over many years to make it the program it has become. Non of the haters of this man seem to care about the facts but only want the head of a man who has given of himself to a town that should appreciate what he has done and hopefuly will do in the future. I hope that maybe instead of speading hate and dividing this town, we should find out more about what actually happened that night and let the due process happen. All you arm chair coaches, lawyers and detectives should stop and let the people who are trained to this do there jobs before you think you can do it better

Frank
Need novacane? You failed to address my question. What would be the result if it were the Debate team, Chorus, etc. Please elaborate on the following statement by you.
"not some thugs on a street corner dealing drugs or robing houses or disrespecting authority"
I think what you are saying is your offspring made it unscathed by society.
Are these kids now drug dealers? If they are robing houses I like a nice terry cloth, and God forbid they disrespect authority, FRANK NEVER DID!

Wayne is my Home.
I might like you

@wwwd I agree it would not have been as big of a deal if it where anything else but football. People get off on seeing the great fall. BECAUSE MISERY LOVES COMPANY.

@Ira thats good you got shut down so you resort to minimizeing everyones comments.

Irapasses, for what? A man? A Eunuch?

Still in Town 78
Don't make me like you.

Notice that Ira hasn't answered my question from before!! Am I a woman, a dolt, or Olsens kid. I guess sometimes the wrong are the illinformed also!!!

Ira if you are an adult you should keep children's names out of your posts that is just cowardly and you show all what you and the rest of the haters are all about.

@ wayne is my home: wow me and you have to meet up for drinks!!!

Ira, john, dora, and frank are not likeing this right now because more then 1 voice of reason is standng up!!!

the two men in the picture look guilty to me
why is he not wearing a tie (does he think this in not serious) when do you were a tie ( another fine adult to look up to) the police cheaf( sweats/ mumbles more than ben beracki on capitol hill saying everthings o.k.) olsen the ringleader of the wayne maffia is so arrogant he twists the story like the player(with their dopy lawyers- check thier connections anybody) are victoms. i thought the victoms are the kids being beat up. olsen if he had any brains aka thinking with woody-cigar) would have said im pulling my team out of playoffs becouse of incedents of football players. so jerky - so stupid wayne boa- policew / wheres christie on this taking soft money from corzine. mabee the super commitee con answer who guilty of not obeying the 40000 plus guideline by all the b.s. ath. depts /ump. rules. etc if my kid ever gets hit hes swinging back kid teeacher ofr anything ive told him the system does not work.

the state prosuctor should by now have locked up olsen. for hiding / being a sick person f his son another d. bag in the making anybody twitter /facebook look how olson /creww are bragging and makings threats go job coack lets only hope sandusky / paterno get you and make you howl like jack a a s when there done doiung some rudeness to you

Sybill is that you,
Are you "Still in Town 78" or "Wayne is my home"?

Some one throw a net on Eddie Munster.

78 Appears that they would just rather spit hatred then talk about the fact of what the law is. Mr Olsen is caught in the middle of something he can not control. He can not make the BOE, Wayne Police, Passaic County Prosecutor and the press bend to all his wishes. The people who hate him want him and if they can't have him no one should. Please take Coach plsen out of your line of fire he is not to blame. All the facts about this will be made public all in due time.

If olsen was guilty of anything dont you think they would have charged him? And I love the fact that the ridicule went from gang to beating to mafia. Its not 9 wayne hills players charged its 11 wayne football players charged remember that. And I'm pretty sure its the same people changing thier name over and over when john wayne leaves john comes in. when john leaves this eddie munster appers. Funny dont you think?

George, when these kid are small we teach them how to play the game and good sportmanship. As they get older the focus goes from not only learning any game but the ability to when the game. We can debate this all day but at your job is it about giving up if the job becomes more difficult or is about doing what it takes to get the job done to the best of your ability. We praise strong leaders in this great land of ours and we must push all our future citizens to be strong to take us into the future. But once again your now tring to say that we should not push our boys and girls to win but just get by. I praise Mr. Olsen for having the stenght to meet this head on even though he nor his son had ANYTHING to do with this.

Still looking for a new user name I guess?

Don't delete comments, it is censorship. The comments deletes could be humorous and be fodder for most of us.

Rocket: Very true the critics do not want to hear that Olsen instills morals like commitment. But their kid prob. quit the chess team because they found out they were going to miss their afternoon snack!!!

We need to confirm that people who are not sheep and following what the press and these blogs have to say. Mr. Olsen needs to be praised for all the many years of service and made to believe that we all The Wayne Hills Family know the truth and his good name and the Students involved are going to come out of this stronger knowing that although many people who did not know the facts judged and convicted them without due process will have the courage of their convictions.

The BOE plans to add disciplinarians to the HS's? What are the VP's for? Maybe people don't realize the schools already have disciplinarians because the ones at WHs weren't doing their job!

Eddie Munster,
Your Village called and they miss their Idiot

The BOE's actions are basically against all rules and regulations set out by the State of New Jersey. They are not a totalitarian government, and should leave all decisions and punishments up to the court systems. Schools have no right to punish students for actions that occur off campus, especially when it is being handled by the judicial system, without a written contract or some form of consent between the student and the school. Since the BOE has not recieved the police reports, they are convicting these students based on heresay and interfering with the outcome of the court case. Another problematic issue is that the BOE is having PRIVATE hearings about these PUBLIC school students. These students weren't even allowed to have legal representation while their fate was decided by distant parties that recieved the case information by word of mouth and newspaper clippings.

Yes, we don't need two new positions to deal with discipline. Thats the VPs job. Now the BOE wants to make two new six figure jobs for Im sure two well connected people. Are they admitting the two high schools are so bad we need full time administrators to handle discipline problems? What a joke!

Frank, Eddie Munster, Irapasses, John Lynch, and many others do not want to take a rational approach to any of this...

Tom and Pad, I do not want to like you. Because I do not want to like anyone on this
Patchen Place.
You must be aliens because you make sense.
Watch out, they will come for you.

Football is stupid and should be banned from all schools and as a youth activity.

Too many young men have had their health and lives ruined by injuries (including many mental, social, and psychological injuries) suffered whilst playing this silly game.

All of the lifelong lessons that proponents of football claim can be better leant through participation in a whole slew of other activities, including nearly any other sport!

In today's Sunday Bergen Record, Coach Olsen shows his arrogance and lack of professionalism. It states " Olsen has said he doesn't need the accused players to win". Isn't that an insult to the opposing team? Insn't that somewhat demeaning to the 9 who have played their hearts out during this entire season? Would Coach Olsen say to his son Kevin, I don't need you to win. Isn't this an insult to highschool football? He then tells the Board on Nov 17th, he doesn't need to win any more football games! Is this arrogance or what?. It is conduct unbecoming of a head coach and an AD. This guy not only represents our school, but our town. In my opinion, he should be removed as head coach and AD.

Wayne Resident, Mr. Olsen is not showing arrogance, he's showing that he has faith in the rest of his team to win this game. He understands that 9 players don't make a team, maybe you should understand that issue. Because a man believes in innocent until proved guilty, and by the way that is what our country is based on, maybe you would like to go back to the days of a warlord where one man decides the fate of another. All hail the King Forget about Democracy its over rated I guess?

If the minors involved in this incident are not supposed to be identified, won't the world figure out who they are when they see who is missing?

If this happened in October why didn't it come out until after the election? Ceberio was running for Freeholder and Pavlak is a cop who runs the records room at the Wayne PD, he is also the son of former Chief Pavlak.

It doesn't seem the extra time was used to do a complete investigation, seems at least one of the nine was in Pennsylvania when the incident occurred. Politics over police work? What is their excuse for burying this story until after the election? Does anyone buy iy?

I for one don't care who the minors are. This is about the adults' bad behavior for me.

am i supposed to be worried that the 8 minors will be identified? shouldnt the 8 minors have thought about all the possible consequences when this incident is occurring? isnt that one of the many lessons that should be learned? wrong actions result in bad consequences.

how funny that rocketsquirrel and still in wayne challenge the other posters on this forum as they hide behind ridiculous screen names that disguise who they are. if you really believe the cr*p you write then why are you hiding?

Bill Brennan...it seems a little ridiculous if this one (or more minors) were not even in the State of Nj on the day of this fight that it would that difficult to clear them of the charges.

Bill Brennan, do you really have that little regard for the police investigation? did they not interview multiple witnesses as the Chief of Police stated? If you have conclusive evidence , and not hearsay, maybe you should talk a drive to valley road and speak with the investigators.

Well, I will say I am pleased that the majority of the posters here know right from wrong, The others, unfortunately, are just apologists and enablers, who may be students masquerading as adults, or adults who are essentially absentee parents in their own home, who don't lay down the law in their own homes, and certainly don't want the school to do it. Although the Coach does bear some responsibility, he could certainly have benched them, THE PARENTS are the real culprits. You can see by their posts. As a Wayne resident and father of High School students, I have seen these absentee parents in action and have been fighting an up hill battle trying to keep mine in line for over ten years. Parenting has been a chore for them. That's why their kids can drink at parties, get on party buses for formals, and a host of other illegal activity. and there are no repercussions. I moved here because I thought this was an upscale area with people who held conservative values. I see however that most of that was Bu** S**t.

George and Ira as we see that the two of you don not care about the law of the land to protect the rights of minors. It is as I said before you two would love the land to be ruled by warlords and kings. But I would tend to this you two would be just the court jestors. You two keep me laughing

The "rules of conduct" provided to the students is like the Bible, it is written in a language that needs additional supervision and interpretation. In some cases such as cutting class, or skipping school the language is clear, in cases such as this one, the code of conduct is being used as an " Aesthetic interpretation" by applying an explanation the same way a person would explain art work.
The attorney's on the other-hand, have appealed the aesthetic explanation, demanding a "Judicial interpretation" or an interpretation of the conduct code by a judiciary be assembled to define the language.
The BOE, seeking their own explanation of the conduct code, are requesting Paula Dow, to also give an interpretation of the same code. In this case, they are requesting a "Statutory interpretation" of the same code or "rules".
Like the Bible, there are several interpretations to each meaning or passage. They are all "Authentic interpretations" depending on who you talk to. All of which are only a "Literary theory", or a wide variety of methods used to interpret the conduct code.
Until this incident, the BOE used "Allegorical interpretation" approach that assumes a text should be automatically interpreted literally.
The code of conduct (bible) has never been challenged.

I'm thankful that the boe came to this decision. It's a shame that the policy was unclear - my feeling is that you may be creating an unsafe environment for all the other kids by letting those charged with assault attend school. I feel the police didn't charge with aggravated assault for no reason and the prosecutor hadn't yet dropped the charges. All kids, regardless of their background, should be expelled from school and tutored at home at taxpayer expense (they do have a right to an education) until a legal decision is made. This had nothing to do with a football game, a bad coach, or an inept boe. This has to do with people that need to rely on policies because there is a great lack of common sense. If accused felons had been allowed to play sports in the past, that would also be wrong. I am glad this is now being reviewed. April is the month that you can vote for a new boe - it will take 3 years to get this board out.

If you're charged by the police, you're out. Done. Let the legal system do its job. No tolerance. If the 2 valley kids were charged with assault, yes, they should also be banned from school. I know these posts have been about the 9 playing football, but if you're banned from school, you should also be banned from any privileges (including sports, debate club, band, basket weaving).

wwwd - if you believe so much in what u write...please reveal your real name. easy to be such a tough b(tch as an anonymous poster isnt it?

Dear wwwd, 1. we are in this 'handbasket' because your parents didn't raise you. 2. I wouldn't raise my kids like you and would never be in this position. 3. If they were in this position, they would learn about consequences. 4. Go find a positive role model and try to educate yourself.

Did I type something false or defamatory? Why was it deleted? I stated that Ceberio was running for Freeholder, I said that Pavlak is a Wayne cop who runs the records room for the Wayne PD and I asked why the whole incident was kept quiet until after the election. Those facts and that question are important. Had this not been keep hidden for so long perhaps the facts re: the incident would have come to light by now and we would be better able to decide what the right path is. Instead Boss Rumana's boys played political football with the Wayne police department in order to avoid pre-election controversy and a controversy it is!

Bill = why arent you on the way to the police station with the evidence that you have?

Rights are different than privileges. There is no due process here.
Shame on these parents, the coach and the BOE. The victims are the WH and WV boys involved, my kids, your kids and all others. They look to us to set the example, determine right from wrong, and face consequences based on actions.
Lastly, what kind of parents let their children (18, 17, or 2) out in an automobile during such a wicked and dangerous snowstorm. I have three teens and they were all home safe in their homes where they belonged. Maybe if these boys were home, they would still be playing in the State Championship and the community would not be suffering from all this???? I wonder if this thought has crossed their parents' minds?

I have heard enough to know I have heard too much.
I can almost guarantee all of the WHHS football players will be suited up and play this Saturday night at 7:00 PM.
This will be my last post because it scares me to think I live amongst most of the morons on this patch. Hooray for you. You are finally getting back at the bullies you have had to deal with all of your lives. Just like your parents did, you are raising little victims. The guilty kids will be found guilty the innocent will be found innocent, but you all want your pound of flesh from someone, Olsen, The BOE, The School Board
The Principal and anyone else you could get it from. Good luck with that.
Just a rumor I hear, Coach Olsen was the second shooter on the grassy knoll.

wwwd - if you believe so much in what u write...please reveal your real name. easy to be such a tough b(tch as an anonymous poster isnt it?

bill - you are once again all over the place. you said you have information that 1 of the accused was not in NJ. Go to the Wayne PD and spill your firsthand knowledge. I am sure the Wayne PD will welcome your unbiased help on this and all matters.

still in town 78
1:06pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
What does party buses have to do with anything?

The fact that you ask that question, indicates the level of how out of touch you are with both reality and what is appropriate conduct for minors. Do you have Teenagers in the Wayne school system? Do you approve of the drinking and other activity that goes on? It has everything to do with what happened that night. Do you think there was no liquor at the party?

Many of these kids are not held accountable for what they do. That my friend, in a nutshell, is EXACTLY what this is about!

@ rich:kids have been taking limos/ party busses to proms for years of course its not ok to drink under age but that has nothing to do with limos.

Dory Degen
Did you read the entire document?
The forced "under the table" paying off of "uncertified" assistant coaches "volunteers".
The altercation with another coach.
they site 1992
The yelling of obscenities on the field calling for the "castration" of game officials

Frank do you also wanna mention that all that you spout was brought on by someone that has a personal issue with Olsen. Or do you only like telling one side of the story? I know fairness is only reserved for a few people in this forum
Ie myself
Rocket
wwwd
Wayne Res
and Wayne is my home
But at least tell the whole story

isnt it funny that all of the Olsen supporters hide behind completely anonymous screen names? still in town 78, rocketsquirrel, wwwd, wayne resident...come out of the shadows and reveal yourselves if you really believe the nonsense you so strongly support. why hide?

@Frank I'm not saying that njsiaa had an axe to grind with Olsen but I 'am saying the main person was Bligh.

There are multiple statements that clear Olsen of some of the stuff that was part of the investigation in that doc. I don't see You quoting that stuff.

Um, wow. I really don't see why everyone is blowing this up so much bigger than it needs to be. It comes down to there being consequences for doing something wrong. They got in a fight. The two WV kids were the ones found beat up. So the WH kids got charged. So they lose a privilage. The end. I don't even think this should've made it to the BOE. It should've been as simple as the parents punishing their own children, or Olsen sitting them out for a game or two for not representing the team well. And then this whole thing could be handled quietly amongst the lawyers and whoever and the rest of the Hills season could continue. That's obviously not what happened, but whatever. Shit happens. You deal with it. You do something wrong, there are consequences. Whatever happened to MORALS. It's like everyone's trying to find a loophole in the law to put the idea of morals aside!
And to whoever said there's no fire between schools....step back and look at this entire comment thread. You're all dividing our town up as you keep speaking.

This matter from a public relations standpoint was handled miserably. No, I'm wrong. It was a disaster. Our BOE trustees in a crisis mode, FAILED. They've been miserable in the handling of this matter. They've passed the buck, played hot potatoe with this matter, flip-flopped, and are now looking for people to take the blame. They are going to appoint a committee to investigate both highschool administrations regarding the handling of this matter. NICE. Look for a couple of scapegoats why don't you. I guess Beckerman, who should be and Reis, who shouldn't be, are going to get thrown under the bus.What I'd like to know is who is going to investigate our Bd of trustees?

@ ira what is as I said before if you can't figure out who I am then you know nothing about Wayne hills football. That being said myself being a wayside public figure ( not related to the football program, the Wayne police or the school district) And the fact i dont trust anyone on this forum. I will not put my real name on here.

@ dory I agree with you mostly and the coach could have probably sat them for a game or 2 for breaking a team rule. Back then coaches had a little more leeway with disciplining players. But at the time you don't know if Olsen was told by someone ( lawyers, the BOE, the Wayne police, or the Wayne hills administration.) To not do anything to not hinder the investigation. Some times the good old days were better that way.

still in town 78 - if you truly support your position on this you would proudly state your name, yet you continue to be anonymous. you are a real chickensh*t. what are you afraid of? that you will look like a fool when this is said and done?

@Ira that's funny a Google and a a white pages search on your name came up as nothing so What's your real name. If I didn't full well believe in what I'm saying and where I came from. Do you really think I would be spending this much time defending an innocent coach and program (note I didn't. Say players because a trial has not taken place yet) to a bunch of over zealous wackos ie. You. I want What's fair not what the mob of as angry villagers fueled by one sided news articles want. If you really wanted to know who I 'am and where I came from and What I became you would stop being so one sided and listen to someone else's point of view. By the information I gave you in previous posts and my name if you really wanted too you could figure out who I am. But you don't you just want to spout hateful words.

still in town= chickensh*t. keep hiding. i dont blame you. what and who are you hiding from? courage in your convictions? HEII no! Your point of view is a very small minority because it goes against common sense and you continue to protect and glorify an egotistical bully. why would any sane person ever agree with your "point of view?"

@gt Ira I guess your right a small minority only wants due process! My point is very simple don't attack a coach who has helped and done so much for all of his players. Don't convict people who haven't had their day in court. When ever a point you and some of your cohorts have is disproven you attack the people that disprove it. And you are the one who is not sane you want to Lynch a whole group of people who either
A) may be innocent.
B) have nothing to do with that night.
C) couldn't have done anything to prevent that fight from ever happening
D) anyone

D) anyone that disagrees with you and your close minded friends.
P.S. Notice she said nothing about the fact that the name Ira passes doesn't exist. Oops!!

too funny. i don't exist? you need to try a bit harder. but still intown 78 does exist? i am a big fan of due process. this is not about due process. this is about a coach and program gone amuck. keep hiding behind an anonymous screen name. who and what are you hiding from?

I am a firm believer in due process and finally that process has begun. The cat is out of the bag and the spotlight is on brighter than ever.

If you are a big fan of due process then why do you insist on convicting these kids before a trial. And you only insist that there where 9 people charged when there was 11. And where did the program go amuck the program is bigger then any 9 20 60 kids. Its over 20 years in the making. You know nothing about the program. All sports and clubs in the district should take lessons about Wayne hills football. Both good and bad. I would like you to find one coach in the Wayne schools that put in as much hard work as the Wayne hills football coaches. Its easy to criticize when you make you don't do your research. Wayne hills football is bigger then a sport its a program. There is not one other sport or club in wayneb that does nearly as much. I already told you why I have a screen name that's not my real name. Why are you using. A fake name?

That was to both Ira and frank

still in town...is that your birth name? wow that must have been difficult growing up with... due process will happen in a court of law. punishment by a school system does not have the same due process laws afforded to all citizens. why is that so hard to understand? is every student punished in school afforded a trial ? no. this is about morality, common sense, decency, accountability, and responsibility on so many levels. im sorry if i dont go crazy insane about a hs football game. i try to keep my life priorities in check.

Your all missing my point the ONLY objection I have to the kids being suspended from playing is it has the potential to screw up the criminal case. And for the ones who may be innocent that wont be able to play. @ Ira I understand the morra

@ Ira I understand the morality, and accountability and all that but where is the morality and accountability if some of those kids didn't do anything wrong. My main complaint about your view is you are attacking a great program and coach for things that except by association have nothing to do with what happened that night. By using words like bully, thug and beating. Just to name a few. A few bad apples or one bad incident does not mean that programs should be "disbanded" and coaches should be fired.

Your right its not about the game. I just feel that sometimes its better to wait till the process has time to work. If after the case the board feels that the kids should not be allowed to play then suspend them next season.

@ Frank I don't feel the program is larger then life. I feel it's larger then any one person. Don't put words in my mouth!

@dory if I was in my late 40s early 50s I wouldn't have played for Olsen. I'd be to old but thanks for the
nonsensical profile of what You imagine me to be.

i know for a fact that Mr Olsen has suspended athletes from many other teams for games and even entire seasons for much less. he gave them zero due process. he did not wait and punish them at a later date and let them finish their season. the thing that bothers everyone is the "special" treatment and complete hypocrisy. you perpetuate by turning a blind eye and pretending what i state is not true or give some sorry excuse why this incident should be handled differently. olsen has abused his authority as Ad by giving his players preferential treatment. this is not debatable and is the root for the uprising. open up your eyes because until you do you have as little credibility as olsen does,

I didn't say Olsen shouldn't have sat the kids. What I 'm saying is is maybe he was advised. To not sit the kids. Do you know for a fact that didn't happen? If I were a coach I would have sat them. And how do you know there was any "abuse of power" I hate to tell you but if it were a different ad the way its setup in Wayne the AD'S have little authority over coaches. That's left to the school and district administrators. that's why Olsen is allowed to be a coach and an ad at the same time.

I am really surprised that there is this much out cry from a suspension from a football game. Is it really that big of a deal? To have lawyers fighting to let them play? Really? Let me tell you in my opinion, them playing or not playing is in no way going to change their outcome in life. Do I think these boys should be suspended from football, YES. But I have no ax to grind with Coach Olsen, yes, he should have sat them from the begining, but because he didnt does not justify people wanting him fired. He is a great coach. He wins. Even if he is a jerk, he gets paid to win.

When a high school football coach runs wild over the BOE trustees, don't you think it's time to get rid of this bunch? Ceberio should be the first, followed by Pavlak, followed by Badiner, Stinziano ,Kingston, etal.

WOW, never thought I would somewhat agree with rocket. I 100% agree the boys should be suspended since they are charged with a felony.I 100% agree that Olsen may have used poor judgement by allowing the charged to play up until now. However I agree with Rocket, as a Wayne resident, I will be rooting for Wayne Hills in the Championship game. The rest of the players on the team deserve the support from the town. They did nothing wrong. They have worked hard all year and deserve the support of our community. Becasue you disagree with Coach Olsen or do not like him, you should not take it out on the players of the team. And hopefully with these 9 out, someone else gets a chance to shine on the team and step up to be a hero in a win.

I think by and large that the people of Wayne want to see the team win. I know I do, despite my feelings about this matter. Despite my opinion about Coach Olsen in this matter, I believe he will motivate his players to rise above this and win this game.

the bottom line is that the vocal minority are offended that we have the nerve to question Olsen based upon his stellar past of being a great person in our community with all the good he has done. they think he should now get a free pass and people should look the other way. how dare we question his motives, his tactics, his decisions. SOUNDS VERY MUCH LIKE PENN STATE where the coach built up a very huge and loyal following. Then somehow the coach thought he could do no wrong and he could be untouchable since so many around him adored him and kissed his ring as they bowed before him. Olsen only feels that he is accountable to Olsen. And his minions around him, his loyal supporters who turn a blind eye to any misstep, will keep telling him that he is in the right. there is no way around this. the normal people will just have to deal with it i guess since there is no talking common sense into them

Ira you hit it right on the head. But at this point when it is so blatantly obvious what happened and what is happening, convincing a few dense people on an anonymous internet forum is futile. I am just amusing myself at this point. And it is nice to read your posts, Frank's, Wayne Resident, Ron, and many many others. Hope you have a great day!

and Rich!

i never hear a valid explanation from the olsen faithful regarding olsen suspending players from other teams for misconduct in and out of school. he has suspended players for a game, multiple games, and even entire seasons. there was no due process, no hearings, no recourse. none of them were charged with a felony. it appears his players get preferential treatment as he is both the ad and the coach. does any of his supporters have a logical, valid clear-cut, concise explanation of why this does not look fishy? should he just get a pass on everything he does and never be questioned? dont you see the problems (penn state) of letting someone with authority run around unchecked and bullet-proof?

WOW... how pathetic. Still cheering for victory and a meaningless championship!
This is an opportunity for real leaders and champions to emerge.

This is what would define a TRUE CHAMPION.
The entire team lead by the head coach issues a statement and it reads something along these lines: "Given the grim headlines at Penn State and Syracuse life doesn't begin and end on the field of play. We respectfully withdraw our eligibility and forfeit our participation in this weeks State Championship game. Never shall a game or a win come before what is wrong and right. Hey, mistakes happen... our friends, team mates, coach, and administrators used poor judgement but it doesn't define who we are as people. It's how we learn and recover from those mistakes that prepare us for the challenges that lay ahead as fathers and future leaders of society. In an effort to show team solidarity and compassion for the "11" players (9 Hills, 2 Valley), an injured teacher, a divided township and in the spirit of true sportsmanship, honor and integrity we ask for all of you forgive us.

frank - instead we get a post like this from one of the olsen deadheads. we should be praising olsen like he is a god

Wayne is my Home
7:24pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
We need to confirm that people who are not sheep and following what the press and these blogs have to say. Mr. Olsen needs to be praised for all the many years of service and made to believe that we all The Wayne Hills Family know the truth and his good name and the Students involved are going to come out of this stronger knowing that although many people who did not know the facts judged and convicted them without due process will have the courage of their convictions.

http://www.state.nj.us/education/legal/commissioner/308-98.pdf

Foul mouth
Lying
Hiring unapproved asst coaches on his own, one of whom was on drugs
Coercising other asst coaches to pay said unapproved coaches
Playing his 11 year-old, 6th grade son repeatedly
DYFS intervening

How's that for a "good name" Wayne!

All - Please read...
http://wayne.patch.com/articles/letter-to-the-editor-community-must-come-together

My Opinion, Part 1
This situation with regard to the Hills football players would be much less prevalent in these patch postings if;
1) The kids came forward and took full responsibility for their actions despite what potential consequences would come of this, if they are just justified.
2) Parents teaching their kids Moral Character, and some of them not placing a game before what is right vs wrong. NOTE - Exclusive of the upstanding players on the team not involved in any incident.
3) The coach having exercised some discipline before the Vernon game to those Truly involved. Coaches know! I like others have nothing personal against the coach and you can't take away the fact that he has won many titles. We must not forget that a game can never be placed above anybody, any administrative body, bad behavior both on and off the playing fields, arenas, etc.
4) The BOE did not flip flop over this situation and let it spiral out of control.
5) Parents hiring Attorneys to get their kids to play. The choice of who plays in a game or not is the responsibility of a coach in any sport, not an Attorney.
6) The Valley kids themselves need to take responsibility for their actions as well.
In my playing days my coach at the time benched me for a situation that I later had to go up to the official at the game and apologize. I took responsibility for my actions under the full guidance of my coach.

Part 2,
We are now at a point to let the judicial system go to work, which they are doing anyway, and render Judgement on who is guilty or not with the verdict.
Hopefully Wayne can come together in Unity like it has done in the past for which I have experienced and truly appreciated from a township. Let us all continue to focus on Major issues at hand for Wayne township such as;
* The chronic flooding problem
* High taxes
* Town leadership
* Etc.,
Best wishes to all!

Mike disagree in part. The BOE failed miserably in this situation. In a crisis mode they get a F for Failure. They knew about this probably sometime around 10/30 or so. With Pavlak being a cop, the Board had to know. Why didn't they have their Board Attorney who I think is terrible come up with a stand on this one way or another. They should have researched this thoroughly and come up with a unified position from the getgo. First they said no, then they became neutral on the situatiion, then said no again. This is flip flopping. Indecisiveness at its finest. I haven't heard once about anything in regards to the HIB law. This board reeks to say the least! They all have to go starting with Ceberio, Pavlak, Kingston, Stinziale, Badiner, Esson, etal.

i say give the board a chance. they have seen olsen at his worst. they see the public outcry. this is an opportunity to right many of the wrongs and clean house. maybe i am an optimist. the entire town is watching them. keep the pressure on them. let them know we are still watching

95% if anyone wants to be fair IRA Frank or dory will answer back with what that means...

Wow--the venom directed at Coach Olsen and the Wayne Hills football program is amazing and so misplaced. You would think that Coach Olsen and the program arranged for the party, the fight, the family hired attorneys. I see no issue with debating what the right course of action is here--it is a free country. I think any of the kids found guilty of doing something wrong (Hills or Valley), should be accountable. However, this personal attack, after personal attack against a Coach and a program who has helped countless Student-Athletes, at both Hills and Valley, is so transparent. Seems like there have been some personal axes waiting to be ground and now is the time to strike. Coach Olsen could have simply kicked all of the accused off the team and distanced himself from the kids. However, some of the Hills kids are saying that they were not involved, were not there, wrongfully accused. So here is a Coach, standing by his kids until there is a detemination of innocence/guilt. We have judge, jury, and executioner all lined up based on some of the messages on this blog and maybe not in that order. At some point, all of the Olsen and Hills haters will get their wish and Coach Olsen will move on to something else in his life. Wayne will not be better off as a result.

Non of the critics didn't bother to ask what the 95% means? Funny don't you think?? A little one sided maybe?

Non of the critics didn't bother to ask what the 95% means? Funny don't you think?? A little one sided maybe?
Sounds like to me they only want to push their side of the story!!!

notwhoyouthink:

Contrary to your belief I have ZERO axe to grind with Mr. Olsen. I believe he like many others will continue to self destruct. His poor conduct is well documented over many years. He is just part of a catastrophic failure in modern society. This nonsense is happening everywhere and finally "programs" such as Penn State, Syracuse, are being carefully scrutinized for the "power" they have over a community. A game will always be just that... nothing more... nothing less. Abuse of power is now being challenged! Kids lives are in the balance and all you can think of is winning a silly game.

WWWD
FYI- I actually played baseball and basketball in my younger days. At Rutgers I was part of half 3 on 3 intramural basketball tournament that resulted in a championship and resulting in being asked by the Rutgers head coachTom Young to be part of the practice team that worked out with featured two future NBA players Roy Hinson and John Battle. So i know exactly what it means to compete.

FYI- I actually played baseball and basketball in my younger days. At Rutgers I was part of half court 3 on 3 intramural basketball tournament that resulted in a championship and resulting in being asked by the Rutgers head coachTom Young to be part of the practice team that worked out with featured two future NBA players Roy Hinson and John Battle. So i know exactly what it means to compete.

WWWD- I thought you were giving up on commenting here? By the way your use of the english language is pathetic at best!

Dude-
And you my friend are the equivalent of dog shit on life's turf!

wwwd stays true to her word about not posting here anymore - NOT. your 1 ounce of credibillity is gone .

WWWD and the dude.

i really don't think that poor taste and bad jokes are in order when referencing Syracuse B Ball. Maybe you should show a little respect to the victims.

Somehow I doubt that. At 6'3" 225 lbs. I don't think so! small... mr. small minded man.

To date the Wayne Police Departments investigation found enough facts to arrest those young men. As a result they were "CHARGED" with Aggravated Assault. Those are all the "FACTS" The Wayne BOE, Supt. of Schools and the Principles of Wayne Hills & Valley need to suspend those young men from extracurricular activities. Those "ARRESTED" have not been expelled or suspended from school. The State DOE clearly gives the Township of Wayne all the tools they need to suspend those "Arrested".

There is one fact I'm curious about now, who is paying the attorney fees for those "ARRESTED" I wonder if Olsen is having a fundraiser for his boys. It could go something like... Listen you all have to give $150.00 (sound familiar) each to the fund, anyone not contributing is out (sound familiar) The Beefsteak dinner tickets are $150 each (sound familiar) but there will be no beef. There will be a 50/50, the cost per ticket (you guessed it) is $150.00. Finally we are auctioning off a day with Olsen, the starting bid is $150.00

wow....amazing stuff has been posted....I'm not in NJ anymore, but know this area pretty well and Chris Olsen. I don't know everything that has gone on. But, folks..let me tell you..this is a good man, a good coach as you know. He cares about his players like his own children. Always has..don't let this tear your community apart. From what I'm hearing, the BOE did what they had to do. Try to move on, and let the healing begin. Remember,high school sports are about the kids, adults who may have axes to grind maybe the real problems here. Best wishes.

Glenn Magrane, Fl