Vacant Properties, Empty Buildings Are a Common Site in Town
Officials wrestling with ways to get more businesses to move to Wayne and have the businesses that are already here stay.
The storefronts are vacant. Their windows only display dark, empty interiors now.
Piles of debris and dirt litter other sites. Fences and “no trespassing” signs warn residents to keep away.
Empty businesses, torn down buildings, and properties for sale are becoming more common in town.
Stores still have not returned to Mountain View Boulevard. Some stores, such as Kenny’s Pit Stop, left or closed down after Tropical Storm Irene and never returned.
The former Dodge dealership off of Route 23 North remains vacant. The Fortunoff building still stands on the Wayne Town Center property. The businesses closed down years ago.
Piles of dirt have covered the Wayne Town Center Property for years. Property owners were slated to present a redevelopment plan to the Planning Board last year but pulled the application.
There were plans to redevelop the underutilized Wayne Hills Mall into a new downtown hub a few years ago but the plans fizzled out.
“We have to find a way of making the township as business-friendly as possible with reasonable taxes,” said William Hense, chairman of the Wayne Economic Development Commission. “They want an employee-friendly environment.”
While Wayne does not have a center of town like many North Jersey municipalities, it does have several plazas and malls that can be built up and marketed.
“There’s not many municipalities that offer a hospital, a university, a fantastic school system, a major mall. We are very self sufficient with what we have. We have it all,” said Council President Nadine Bello.
Some people want to see some of these areas landscaped and improved.
“It would be great if there was a place where you could just go and park your car for a few hours and walk and spend an afternoon,” Carla O’Connell said outside of Starbucks in the Preakness Shopping Center. “The plazas are great and they offer a lot of choices for people but there’s something nice about just walking around and enjoying the day out.”
Bello agrees.
“You could get something like that where the Wayne Hills mall is,” Bello said. “You could have shops and people could walk and spend time down there. It’d be a win-win.”
There were plans to transform the Mountain View section of town off Route 23 into such an area but the plans were never fully realized.
“It’s a very charming area. I would love to see shops built down there on the side of Fayette Avenue where the train is,” Bello said. “You have the train right there and could easily have a Starbucks or any number of places right there. Unfortunately, we deal with flood after flood down there.”
The closing, downsizing, and relocating of businesses such as Van Peenen’s Hostess, Bayer, BAE Systems, and others have made it difficult for officials to market the township as a place where businesses can succeed.
“We don’t have to reinvent the wheel,” Bello said. “There are many great and positive things about Wayne that most businesses find very attractive.”
Hense said that business owners should find a way to get young adults and teenagers to spend more money in town. Some businesses allow William Paterson University students to use pioneer bucks, money that the student has in an account or on-campus meal plan, at their businesses.
“There’s tremendous purchasing power when it comes to students,” Hense said. “We have to find a way to make that kind of stuff and those kinds of businesses available to students.”
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Pad
5:31 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
Hey, Ms. Bello.
Nobody is going to develop such a center in a flood zone such as Fayette Avenue. Trying to market Wayne now is a little to late. Residents are fleeing Wayne due to the high taxes here and alot of buisness's are doing the same. What is this Wayne Economic Development Commission been doing the last 20 years? Buisness's and homeowners want to move into a Township that is concerned about keeping the taxes affordable and as low as possible. But Wayne and its BOE is in a "SPEND, HIRE, SPEND" mode. You want to change this Township? Start by freezing all new hiring, hold the budget increases for a few years and get rid of all the useless regulations and codes such as prohibiting LED signs etc etc. Welcome new buisness instead of making it hard to come into Wayne. Stop hasseling property owners everytime they want to improve thier property. Everything you do in this Township results in a tax increase. Why? Property values are down and the Township needs a re-evaluation of all residential properties. The Township has been over-taxing its residents for years. Get control of the spending at the BOE also. They are really out of control and contribute to people leaving Wayne due to thier constant need for more money. They have installed solar panels they are considering school bus advertising and what does the Super say? We will use the money to hire more people and institute new programs. How about using the money to lower the taxpayers burden of the school tax.
ana mazur
7:04 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
I agree with the above comment. I believe Ms. Bello is delusional. Wayne Township needs more than a place with shops to hang around. You want to hang around go the Willowbrook Mall.
Nobody is going to develop anything in the flood zones. Are you blind all the businesses in flood zone said goodbye long time ago. They are simply tired of the same ol over and over again. Rebuild get flooded close down. This township has been promising to take care of the flood for years. None of it happened yet and I suspect it will never happen because there isn’t enough money. As far as businesses moving out of Wayne. Can you seriously blame them. The taxes are ridiculous, constant moaning about the budget and tax hikes are simply tiring.
What Wayne Township needs is rational people in charge, with new ideas, that will reinvent the town. I believe Wayne has a great potential but it needs new policies and people because the old ones simply failed us.
Nose Wayne
7:12 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
Past the "old Stahl Plaza" on Mt. View Blvd yesterday and the place looks like a "ghost town" after all the work the town did to make it look nice. Another fine neighborhood gone and forgotten by our "fearless leaders".
Al Scala
7:24 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
The Wayne Hills mall is starting to look blighted. It's been going down hill for years. The Mall has only 3, maybe 4 tenants. The major portion of the mall is closed and blocked off. That is a huge expanse of land. Lots of potential. In fact recently I saw some of our school buses being parked there. Something needs to be done to that property.
Bobtwo
7:26 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
The above comments are 100% correct. What company is going to move to a town where the employees can't afford to live. There is nothing attractive about Wayne from a work standpoint, traffic, parking, where would you spend your lunch hour with no town center. I believe that the people in charge are blind to these concerns.
You have to recognize what you have and then build on it. This town is a hub, 45 minuets from NYC, access to major roadways. We could have had Lowe's and Home Depot but because the powers that be bowed to a few they went other places and in one case we got the traffic and in another an empty lot.
Jack Q
8:32 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
Don't forget the sports bubble, as well.
I disagree on point about companies moving here but their employees can't afford to live here. When Toys R Us moved here, do you think that there employees bought homes in Wayne. What makes this town attractive is that it is a hub as you state. Rt 80, 287, 46 you can get here from anywhere.
stewart resmer
12:05 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
your contempt for the travails of struggling business and disdain for the salt of the earth work a day common man is duly noted as part and parcel of the greater problems here
Jack Q
1:19 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
Once again Stew, you make no sense. Unlike you, I do work every day. My point is that a business does or doesn't look at a town for location where their employees can live. Do you think that everyone who works in Wayne lives in Wayne? They don't. It doesn't matter where people live. You need business to set up shop in town so the town gets tax $. Then those people go out to lunch and shop and eat in town. It trickles down. I know that makes you twitch, but that is how it works. We need business tax dollars to offset property tax dollars for those of us that pay them.
stewart resmer
2:04 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
so sorry jack-o dont flatter yerself, the comment qued up in the wrong box, it was meant below, suffice to say your generalizations about why or why a business does or does not move where it does is highly speculative on your part, and oh my, where people choose to live?
go back to the safety of your person bubble and dont forget to check any pointy objects at the door where you pick up your bumper helmet, pull the straps nice and tight now?
stewart resmer
7:29 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
Victorian Florist seems to have folded once and for all has it not?
leanbean
11:33 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
@stewart That's what happens when you don't pay your mortgage or rent. I guess you'll have to find a different florist to drive for.
stewart resmer
8:30 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
The same Mz Bello whose home is for sale?
John Smith
9:33 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
Passaic County has been raising taxes for many years to the point they are the highest tax county in the United States. This information is based on the data available from the Tax Foundation.
Apparently, Passaic County and Wayne Township decided to built schools and schools and more schools every where, including "special needs" schools. These are very expensive to run; they then charged the homeowners to pay for these charges, with minimal funding from the state or federal government.
The businesses managed and continue manage to leave the county, because they can. It is not so easy for the homeowner's to leave though.
Also, research shows that the taxes are eventually become part of the capital of the home. Therefore, high taxes eventually result in lower values for the homes.
This is what has happened in Wayne and Passaic County. Enjoy.
Al Scala
9:52 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
Nothing will change in this town until the present governing body is removed in part or as a whole. Re-elect these people and you'll get the same old, same old. High taxes will continue and you will continue to get their lethargic approach to facing the issues and problems this town is confronted with.
Nose Wayne
10:13 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
We do have some people on the council that actually give back to the town and then you have our "part time" Mayor that only cares about his picture in the paper cutting a ribbon or some other event. If he really cared for this town he would be out drumming up business somewhere, not scaring them away.
Adam Smith
10:25 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
Wayne Economic Development Commission must have been sleeping these years. wake up! fight high property taxes now
Scondo
10:26 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
Part of the Mt View Development process was that there was to have been a bike way that ran 6.5 miles from the transit center to Riverdale, it was a Morris County project that Wayne -through Scott Rumana embraced. Morris county fizzled on the project with al their pork requirements, so what would have been a great boost for that area came to naught.
As for a place to park your car and walk for a few hours, may I recommend Chicopee Drive, or Rec Center at WPU, or end of Sanderling, all of which have parking for cars and access to wonderful trail running and hiking trails in High Mtn Reservation. Few avail themselves of what is an unprecedented local asset. There is no other town on the East Coast that has such a reservation. Use it and you will be astounded. I have seen coyote,bear, fox, mink, deer all manner of birds.
Wayne does have many attractive features, we should be celebrating them, more and focus on them more. Sure, we have been slaughtered in this continuing recession but we will rebound.
Wayne Resident
10:41 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
Thanks scondo, excellent ideas for High Mtn, wasn't aware there was access in a few of the places you mentioned.
Kelly Lonigan
10:26 am on Saturday, March 9, 2013
i agree about the trails being great...my only concern is that i see more and more debris on these trails (broken beer bottles galore) and it is now unsafe to bring your dog. I realize that these trails are managed by volunteers, but unless they get cleaned up they will fall into a state of disrepair sooner or later. what a shame
Nose Wayne
10:36 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
What ever happened to the walking/bike path that was suppose to go around Barbour Pond Park (David Waks Park) ? That would have been money better spent instead of bike paths on our dangerous county roads.Where did our "open space" money go ? Oh, forgot, a dog park on an old "superfund " site.
Nose Wayne
10:47 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
Wayne, if you go to Parks and Recreation office, they have maps of all the 1200 acre hiking trails on High Mt. Park that we bought years ago.
Wayne Resident
10:54 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
Excellent, thanks.
Scondo
10:52 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
One additional comment regarding vacancies. It was said the other day that Clifton was proactive in attacting new retail establishments to its Rt3 corridor. They have been succesful, but the better model to follow out of Clifton is their very effective property maintenance inspection program. I very much doubt that Clfton would allow an eyesore like the old IHOP at Preakness to remain in such a condition for more than 6 months before citing it for violation. In Clifton, if a shopping center allows its trash cans to so much as overflow , they are likely to have an inspection visit.
By keeping the city clean, the streets free of debris, and by not allowing derelict parcels they have been able to retain a vitality that does not exist in most other NJ cities. It is the Rudy Guiliani theory. keep it clean and the city will thrive. The opposite effect can clearly be seen righ next door in Paterson. So if Wayne wants to remain vital, it too should address appearances.
Al Scala
10:52 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
There was some talk a few years ago about putting a walking/bike path around Point View reservoir. Not sure if it was the county or the town. Great idea. Not sure where you would park if you had to drive there. Never came to pass.
Scondo
11:59 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
Point View Reservoir is owned by the Passaic Valley Water Commission, which is jointly owned by Clfton, Paterson and Passaic. They refused to allow the walking path due to perceived issues with liability (what happens if someone falls) later on they claimed security issues. However, fishing permits can be obtained for shore fishing on Point View. The Mayor of Wayne regualrly has some available.
Scondo
10:54 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
High Mountain Trail Map is available on the Township Web Site as well as through the NYNJ Trail Conference.. High Mountain is one of the premier birding locations in the United States as it is in the Eastern Flyway for migratory species.
stewart resmer
11:33 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013
oh great, its about nature walks now?
Scondo
12:02 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
Yes, stewart, among other things that can be considered as reasons to live and work in Wayne. And among other things that might even make it better.Don't sound so disappointed ,
stewart resmer
12:28 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
a hole in the ground where the taxes go
Paula
12:48 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
I very much agree with 'scondo' and the comments about appearances. The message you get when you drive around Wayne is that no one cares and that there is no pride in the town. Why we don't have a shopping/eating walking mall like they have on Rte 3 in Clifton is beyond me considering the amount of vacant property available. My high school age children often say they wish they didn't have to go all the way down there to get that atmosphere. So, how much longer do you want to give your citizen's business away to other towns instead of getting it for yourselves? Listen to the Wayne residents--this is a no-brainer.
Al Scala
12:52 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
Good comments Paula. You do wonder what our Mayor and Council are thinking. Inaction is certainly not the way to go. A pro-active approach in addressing the problems and issues facing the township would be more appropriate.
Nose Wayne
12:56 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
When you find that hole Stewart, jump in it. Do you even NOSE where High Mt. Park is ? Like those things you had in California, there called mountains.
stewart resmer
1:03 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
its your yap hole suppose ya get yer head out of it
stewart resmer
1:54 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
I see the village idots are having their convention in wayne this year running about with their tongues sticking out catching snow flakes?
Jack Q
2:26 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
Being that you're the Idiot leader, thanks for the warning, Stew.
stewart resmer
2:48 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
oh look jack-o yer on Tv!
http://search.aol.com/aol/search?query=youtube+the+village+idiot&s_it=keyword_rollover
Scondo
9:54 am on Friday, March 8, 2013
Couple of notes for your education in the way of the world stewart. There is no money budgeted for High Mountain, although it is one of the largest municipally owned nature preserves in the nation, the budget for it is negligible. Trails are maintained by volunteers, clean ups are conducted by civic groups, scouts, hiking clubs and the like. One group has held an annual clean up for 8 years, the section they clean is now so pristine that it no longer needs their attention. And you are well aware of the fact that Passaic County through its economic development agencies is attempting to further the idea of county facilities as a center of eco tourism. Bring people in to enjoy outdoor activities and they will come and spend a few dollars along the way. They will stop and buy lunch, gas, a bottle of water and it all ads up. I could give you 1000 areas of the country employing this technique. But it would probably be lost on one who resorts to referring those of us who know the joy of a snowflake on the tongue as "village idiots"
bill halik
2:00 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
Taxes PERIOD Great job we only had to "RAISE the average homeowner" or ex-homeowner enough already get the message forget DOG PARKS, and NEW school projects. The minute the kids are out of school the parents who demanded air conditioning for band room RUN.
Justice
2:33 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
I can drive 15 minutes to High Mountain, Garret Mountain, 15 minutes to Silas Condict (Morris County Park System) or 25 minutes to Ringwood Skylands Manor (Passaic County). They are all wonderful Nature spots with different missions. High Mountain does not warrant the exorbitant property taxes that I pay in Wayne. Most taxpayers are too busy working 100 plus hours a week at a minumum of one job to even have the time to enjoy nature. Other taxpayers have lost jobs and have homes in foreclosure while another group is on a fixed income (income trough Social Security is rising less than the property taxes). Drop the taxes, get rid of the waste, the top heavy administrators all the unnecessary frills. No one has the time to enjoy them .
paul r
5:07 pm on Friday, March 8, 2013
"Most taxpayers are too busy working 100 plus hours a week at a minumum of one job to even have the time to enjoy nature"...
I'd really love to see the numbers behind that claim.
maryanne
3:39 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
William Paterson University is a wonderful asset to our township. There are so many things to do on campus there. Wayne needs to see itself more as a college town, and partner with William Paterson wherever they can. Just like Princeton, New Haven, New Brunswick and other college towns. We almost seem to ignore this wonderful university. http://www.wpunj.edu/wplive/#
Nose Wayne
3:51 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
Maryanne, and all the college kids are not catering to the local businesses since they opened up shops on campus. So it is doing just the opposite by hurting places like Brother Bruno, 7-11, Wayne Pizza among others. People don't want to go there because of the traffic.Ever tried crossing Hamburg Turnpike at lunch time ? And we don't get any money because it is state run.University.
Michelle
4:28 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
Nose, Not true...the kids use their "Pioneer" money at 7-11, CVS, the pizzerias, the Chinese food restaurants around WPU...
Michelle
4:30 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
And what I cannot understand is that you are saying we should have more businesses but the roads are so crowded now....how do you think bringing in more businesses will affect our infrastructure? Do you want a small town feel or live in a "city"? That's the question.
Pad
4:00 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
Maryanne,
You mean the University that pays no taxes at all, uses our emergency services fire & ambulance and often uses Wayne PD for back up. Takes over more and more commercial properties which then come off the tax rolls also. Wayne should do what Little Falls did at Montclair State. They get compenstion for emergency services etc. While also speaking about the College do you know how many almost NO-Show jobs are also there fundd by our tax dollars. Yes, it is a great University but it also drains tax money from Wayne also. Every building they have taken over on Hamburg Tnpk, Valley Road Ext. etc pays $0 taxes. As far as parks & trails we have enough. What we need is tax ratables and buisness customers for our small buisness's. The BOE and the Township are draining it's residents dry and they are doing nothing to stop the decline of Wayne.
Michelle
4:26 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
I've been reading these comments and while I do agree the vacancies are becoming an eyesore as well as lost revenue, I don't think I want to be anything like Clifton. That, to me, has a "city" feel and I want to keep our suburban feel. I would love to see the Wayne Hills Mall turn into something but if the owner doesn't release the property than how can we force them out? Also, you'd all be complaining that bringing in all these "strip malls" would assist in having kids hanging out in front of them getting in to trouble, making noise, committing crime...I don't know what the answer is but I just find it funny how everyone always complains about one thing then it happends and then they complain about how it's now a "city" we're living in...
Paula
12:43 pm on Friday, March 8, 2013
How does looking like a ghost town give us a suburban feel? I moved here from NYC 20+ years ago so I didn't have to look at acres of concrete, and guess what? There are acres of empty concrete all over Wayne now. Let's make it look inviting, well landscaped, exciting.Towns like Montclair and Ridgewood (which you probably think look like 'cities' are where Wayne residents go to have fun because they CAN'T GET IT HERE.
Michelle
1:09 pm on Friday, March 8, 2013
I said I don't like the vacant emptiness in my first sentence...I just don't want to look like Clifton where you have rows and rows of strip malls and concrete barriers in the middle of the roads....and I love Montclair and Ridgewood but we do not have a Main Street and I knew that moving here as everyone else did...and I'm not sure why you're YELLING at me I'm just voicing my opinion. Also, for those who complain about everything any chance they get will probably complain that added a Montclair or Ridgewood type of business here in Wayne would produce more headache and traffic. I didn't say that I would care I was just stating that complainers will always complain...I vote for more recreational options like walking paths, parks, trails, etc....
maryanne
4:43 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
Wow, I'm stunned by the William Paterson hatred. Did you know that many professors, staff and students actually live in Wayne? Students at WPU eventually buy homes in Wayne because they like the township after they get their paying jobs (including paying taxes) as teachers, accountants, musicians, librarians, speech therapists and nurses. Most towns cherish their relationships with a university. It can be profitable for a town, Wayne needs to explore this thoroughly.
Al Scala
5:23 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
To all....I tend to agree with Maryann in the sense that the Township should develop a relationship with the University. How it could benefit, I'm not quite sure. Are we allowed to use their library? I guess it's considered a state owned facility. Does that give us the right to walk in there any time and use the facilities? I'm not quite sure of that. If not, could something be worked out! As far as the University benefitting from our fire, police and emergency services, if there are numerous calls to WPU, I'm certainly not adverse to Wayne charging them for that, if we are allowed to do that. It's a way for us to recoup some state funding that has been cut to our town. If there is an opportunity to develop a mutually advantageous relationship, why would we not do. It?
Pad
7:44 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
MaryAnne,
Its not the University is hated, But they take alot from the Township and pay $0 taxes. And as far a graduates living in Wayne buying homes I beg to differ with you since most college graduates that were born and raised in Wayne can't afford to live here. Building on thier property is one thing but when they purchas and takeover existing commercial property to use it comes off the tax rolls. Wayne has an over abundance of properties that don't pay taxes to the community but use its services. The students who live in Wayne most likely live with thier parents who are being overtaxed by the Township. Tax income is down 27 million and rising every day due to appeals and loss of ratables. This Township cannot continue on this course. Why do you think so many homes are up for sale and in foreclosure in Wayne. If taxes were affordable many could afford to pay thier mortgages. I also hear a big lawsuit will soon be settled concerning our tax department. That will be another loss. The taxpayers are being squeezed with no relief in sight. I kmow people paying over $14K for a townhouse. Why? They are settling and losing in tax court this cannot go on. Maybe they should do a re-evaluation Township wide and bring the taxes more in line with reality. I once spoke to a council member about taxes and people moving out that were long time residents in Wayne. His reply was "If they can't afford the taxes here they should move out". Is that how concerned they are about taxpayers?
KrisTee
9:39 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
Wayne township taxes are not bad at all. We are paying the most because of the county and BOE. The county is run by a small group of people that could care less about spending, nepotism runs high at the county level. Our BOE keeps saying "we have a great school system" ?? compared to what??? we have a mediocre system, I don't see any 5 star gold medalion schools in Wayne, do you ?? http://www.thecartelmovie.com/ this movie gives some insight on why NJ pays the most in BOE taxes.
Rania Baladi
10:52 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013
The flood issue is one Major reason businesses are leaving and new will not take a chance of coming in. On top of that we pay taxes as high as those out of flooding. They need to control the flooding for several years and believe me you will see the difference in businesses and homes staying put.
Paula
12:45 pm on Friday, March 8, 2013
There are plenty of areas in town that could be developed into beautiful community shopping/dining/entertainment areas that are not in neighborhoods prone to flooding. When was the last time Preakness flooded? Or the Wayne Hills Mall?
Nose Wayne
3:47 pm on Friday, March 8, 2013
We already have community shopping/dining/entertainment. Hamburg Turnpike is full of shopping centers,restaurants,and entertainment places.Maybe you should get out to Preakness Shopping Center Paula and see what the area has to offer.Wayne Hills Mall has some nice stores in it to like Quiznos,Toys R Us,K-Mart,Burlington Coat Factory and LA Fitness.The rest is empty because we are in a recession, check out Rt.17 and count how many vacant strip malls.
Al Scala
3:59 pm on Friday, March 8, 2013
Quiznos is gone. Out of business.
Nose Wayne
4:25 pm on Friday, March 8, 2013
Thanks Al, haven't been there in a while. Another one bites the dust.
stewart resmer
4:27 pm on Friday, March 8, 2013
Dunkin Donuts closed in Mountainview too.
Nose Wayne
4:43 pm on Friday, March 8, 2013
You NOSE it's bad when they close a Dunkin Donuts.There goes the police presents in Mt. View.
Pad
6:08 am on Saturday, March 9, 2013
Rania,
Most of the buisness's leaving aren't in the flood zone. Most of the Corporations and mall areas are on high ground. The bottom line is taxes and the treatment they recieve from Wayne Township when they want to expand, make improvements etc. This town has a reputation for several things high taxes, buisness unfriendly, hard to deal with etc etc. Lets not forget also some of the past scandals also. This Township needs a total revamp on thier attitude towards buisness and its taxpayers. Until that happens this town will be in fianancial meltdown.
Nose Wayne
9:27 am on Saturday, March 9, 2013
TO ALL, If you really want to see how great this tow used to be get the "Wayne Lions Club Present: Scenic Crossroads, The History of Wayne".For $20, you will see and hear how this town came about and the people and places you hear so much about today. Yes, they WERE the good ole days. Enjoy the book, I did.