Too little, too late, but better than nothing.

Now, about the dual role Commander Pavlak plays in all of this as the BOE president and the Police records custodian, and my assertion that the dept must recuse and defer to the sheriffs dept. in order to avoid the appearance of conflict of interest.

I think this is the correct decision. As I said before, I have no opinion of like or dislike for Coach Olsen, I think he made the wrong decision about letting them play, but that is a moot point now. Not having an opinion about the Coach on a personal level, every one has to admit, he built a great football program at Wayne Hills and that is his job. Being from Wayne, I will cheer for Wayne Hills this week and beyond, because the rest of the boys on this team deserve that. They have worked hard all year and deserve the support of the entire community.

Kudos to the Wayne Board of Education for doing the right thing.

jessica brody is a small minded individual. I hope she does not have children in the school system for her to influence with her twisted beliefs that football is KING

Folks, had to delete a couple of comments because they were clearly inappropriate. Let's please stick to the issue. Thank you.

Jessica - you are out of your mind. Wayne collectively send numerous kids to top universities year in and year out. It usually produces a number of Merit Scholarship semi-finalists and finalists. I know I felt very prepared going to college and did better than many of my peers from other states with decidedly less difficulty. Wayne high schools are ranked in the top 10% in NJ, and NJ is ranked #2 as a state in primary education. Frankly, homes-choolers are total quacks, and their kids turn into social misfits. A football program and a school system are not to blame for violence of a few young men. In most cases, not even their parents are to blame. It's adolescence, there is booze involved, testosterone, bad judgment and sometimes just evil wrongdoing. I don't know any of the kids involved and surely they need to be taught a lesson at home, at school and perhaps by the law, but the logical leaps you take in your posts are absurd. This ain't Little House on the Prairie for goodness sake.

As an American, I've always believed in the phrase, "innocent until proven guilty." Each American is granted the right to a fair and speedy trial by jury, and until the jury convicts he or she as guilty, that person is innocent. At this point, it is infringing on basic American beliefs to not let these children play. I do understand what they "allegedly" did was disgusting and horrendous, but it was also at a party off school grounds. Until these kids are tried and found guilty of their alleged crimes, I say let them play and participate in activities. Also, we only know one side of the story, that about the crimes these players committed. What's never mentioned is how these two Wayne Valley kids were intoxicated (illegally of course). It is unknown whether they instigated the fight, but regardless of that, these kids were far from perfect as well. Just because they were the victims doesn't mean that they didn't instigate anything. Before any irrational decisions are made like the one made by Interim Superintendent Roth, I'd have liked to know both sides of the story and see how the case played out in court.

Chuck,

Great idea! Start a petition and make it happen. Lessons need to be learned here

Contact the governing body here http://www.njsiaa.org/

Need to contact the staff at NJSIAA? Below are our staff members.

Steven J. Timko, Executive Director
Kim DeGraw-Cole, Assistant Director
Don Danser, Assistant Director
Larry White, Assistant Director
Jack DuBois, Assistant Director
Gary Zarrilli, Business Administrator/Accounting Manager

The facts in this article are completely false. What the boys did was not right and they should have stopped, but I want people to know that the two boys from Valley were NOT attacked, they threw the first punch towards every Hills kid and taunted them continuously. The articles portray these boys as malicious and cruel and this is not the case. Should they play? I dont know, but it the desicion should not be made off of these facts because they are WRONG.

Concerned Independent, There was not alcohol freely served. The police checked the home and there were no bottles or cans to be found. Kids have very sneaky ways of bringing alcohol into a party. The parents anticipated a small Halloween gathering due to the snow and when they saw the amount of kids, they began to kick kids out. This is when the fighting began and it was out of sight from the house.

So to everyone bashing these boys, learn your facts because if it was your son in this trouble, im sure you would want people starting rumors about him.

Looks like the popular opinion won out. Right won out over wrong. Glad to see our BOE trustees came to their senses. Took time, but better late than never.

I'm down w/the roid test, my son(from a different town) got tested 4 days ago, it was fine with me & he didn't care. Seems to me like this is incident is finally being addressed, thank you to this column & all those simalar in bringing this to light.

I guess he is now worried about his job!!! ITS TO LATE!!!!! we already know what he thinks is more important. I hope he and Olsen put in their resignation at the meeting and get out of town.

No need to forfeit its playoff win. The JV's could have beat that team. It's not fair to the rest of the team after working so hard all season. Maybe Olsen should sit out for playing them.

Does anyone remember the Duke lacrosse players incident? Everyone said the lacrosse players were guilty of raping or sexually assaulting a stripper they had hired for a party. Everyone was calling for strict punishment of the boys everyone believed to be guilty. They left school, their lives and reputations ruined, and YET, years later we learn that the stripper lied and the boys, get this, were INNOCENT. The prosecutor had to resign for his part in that incident. What this should have taught everyone is that you should not assume someone is guilty until they are proven guilty. Benefit of the doubt and innocent until PROVEN guilty. Anyway, those Duke boys' lives were forever changed with that lie and everyone else who believed it. There is no do-over for them. Don't jump to any conclusions without knowing all the facts and let the legal system work it out.

Concerned , my daughter was at the party and is close friends with all of the students involved on both sides of the fight.

Forfeiting the game is unfair to the rest of the team who works their butts off . Several of these kids do not deserve to give up the most important season of their lives that could alter their future in regards to college and scholarships.

After reading all of the posts, I can't understand why this has become a township issue.  Do the parents of the 9 not have the responsibility of disciplining their children?  This is the reason the teachers and administration feel they are raising our kids, it's because they need to or no one will.  We try too hard to be their friends, buy them cars, look the other way, make excuses.  This is the reason I need to have the teachers talk to my kids about sex, because other parents can't do the right thing. So, let's just wait for the legal system to figure out what happened; after paying for a good lawyer, of course- the lawyers can tell the parents what happened.  I'm sure there's a good reason for 9 kids watching 2 kids being attacked, because you know none of the nine will say they actually kicked a kid in the head until they were unconscious.  Just watching your friends beat up 2 kids would be a good reason to punish  your child by not allowing them to play in a football game (consequences).  This isn't a township issue, but look, the kids can't play anyway, so the parents can still be friends with the kids, good job.

Think about it, if the parents pulled the kids from the game would there be an issue here? The legal system will handle the rest.

it has become a township issue because those same Wayne Hills parents that refuse to have any responsibility for themselves or their kids somehow blame Wayne Valley, the BOE, the Superintendent, etc... They cannot and will not accept blame and consequences for any wrongdoing. They claim it is about jealousy of their program. Somehow the quest for a 1-20 state championship rings trumps all and will cure everything. Maybe they should open their eyes and look at the history and current status of many of the top stars from the football program from past years. Somehow it seems the rings have not gotten them very far.

and bringing up Duke lacrosse is laughable. there was a group of drunken underage players hosting a riotous party complete with strippers. I guess that should all be ignored and not worthy of team suspensions.

What ever happened to "Innocent until proven Guilty"? What happens if the are later found innocent in a Court of law? This didn`t happen on School grounds nor during the school day. It isn`t the schools business. If Minors are to have thier identities protected in cases like this, not allowing them to play essentially makes thier identities known!

maybe they have thought there could be consequences to their actions esp. since they are high profile Hills players. kids in school do not usually have the pleasure of due process. things deemed "illegal" in school like smoking in the wrong area, chewing gum, plagiarism, cheating, etc..and other small infractions are not crimes outside of school but would still subject a kid to disciplinary action without any due process. The suspensions from school are just and are deserved whether or not there are convictions. The HIB policy clearly states that issues off of school grounds are still applicable to the HIB policy. maybe you should go read it

Willy, my daughter was at this party she knows these boys and saw this happen. It was in no way premeditated as they didn't even know who the kids were. Like I said before, I'd this was your son I'm sure you wouldn't want people making up lies about him. I have a hard time believe your a police detective and if you are you were certainly not part of this case because the boys were not unconscious, they were so drunk they were laughing and insulting the boys as they were getting punched. And it wasnt nine on one, there were three fights that involved all nine of then boys. Not gang violence jackass. These are good kids who didn't realize the extent of their actions and deeply regret what they have done to the valley boys.

And he didn't chose him to be captain of just that game, he has always been a captain. I'm at every game as my daughter is also a cheerleader.

And another clarification to this article, Wayne hills students don't agree with this decison. The only kids that agree are the ones that hate football and weren't at the party or know people at the party to get the real story . They only know what they hear from the paper. Again I'm not saying it was right of the boys but its not right to make up stories willy.

another w hills apologist. it seems to be okay for 9 to take on 2 . 1 fight. 2 fights, 3 fights whatever. in the end 9 against 2 and kicking and stomping of a kid on the ground until unconscious. and then fleeing the scene. great stuff. i glad they have regrets. they are now being punished for their actions. actions have consequences. great life lesson. and now it also seems to be fine for 9 to beat 2 very drunk kids as you put it. that somehow makes it better in your eyes when if you were sane tou would actually realize that makes it worse.. what a great defense

most of the people on this forum seem to just hate Hills football. I don't know any of the students, but it seems that everyone just keeps talking about how these boys are football players. I don't really think this is a football issue. Perhaps some of these boys belong to other clubs, yet I don't hear how they should be kept out of those groups or clubs and as a matter of fact no one is asking what else these boys are doing. I don't think people really care about that, they just care about bashing Olsen, who is a teacher and a coach and not these boys' father. He is there to coach them in football, not teach them morals, that's their parents' jobs.

there you go irapasses, you are making it about football again, saying the dad wants the ring and calling the boys "stars" get over your hatred of Hills football, i guess it's true, when someone or something is successful others just want to bring it down to feel better about themselves. stick to the issues, make this about the boys who were hurt and the boys who hurt them rather than about football.

RON IS A JOKE.... No real facts, just ripping on olsen and the football program which has nothing to do with this case. HAAAAAA

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

Olsen had nothing to do with this event he did not plan it and was probably pissed at every player involved.To bring a legal suit from the 90's about Olsen should have nothing to do with this event. This event that took place at someone's home on private propert .Other accusions of the board and school administrators are uncalled for. Are their previous coaches that had run ins with Olsen I think so. Are they jealous of Olsen's success? Leave Olsen out of this Leave the fact that 9 happened to be football players. Perhaps If it was boys from the fencing team whould there be such an outrage? Is it because Hills demolished Valley this year Please get all the information of this case and leave individuals' names out of this.This case should be treated as 9 students had a fight with 2 students. Instead people are using Olsen, Wayne Hills Football, BOE administration as if they promoted the event Now it appears The Super. is caving into PTO mothers and others who want revenge against the mentioned names instead of all the facts Keep cool folks this should not be Hills vs Valley we are all neighbors and are town will be hurt now by over reaction and all parties are guilty without a trial.OLSEN IS Not Responsible for children out of school and far away from BOE propertyThe kids themselves and their parents are the ones that should be dealt with.The police should get the correct information and act in the correct manner.Trial first then act accordingly

What many out of town people don't understand is the history of past 2 decades of Wayne Townships Football program. The accomplishments that these players have displayed, the sectional titles, the state championships, the top ten rankings, and the year-after-year success generated at the pee-wee and youth levels. Long before high-school, these kids in town have been winning youth super bowls and enduring undefeated seasons with the P.A.L and Boys and Girls Club. Winning is a tradition accomplished from years and years of hard work, endless hours of practice, and the support of our townships residents, police, and many many others. It's not about the championships, the rings, or the trophies as much as it is about 400+ children each year, enjoying a program that they use to advance level by level.
The complete program takes them from a 6 year old dressed in pads and looking like a Q-tip, to the point where they trade in the foot-ball for a brief-case, and their uniform for a business suit. The facts of what happened has changed so many times that it's hard to tell if there was a fight or just someone calling an audible. It's best to stop speculating, stop mentioning who was where when it happened, and let the real police, the real courts and attorney's, the real victims, the real defendants, and their parents come to a conculsion on the whole ordeal. Unless of course, you happen to be an eye-witness that hasn't come forward.

Why does Willy keep harping that the Karate Kid is 15? Elsewhere on this site the boy's own father says that he is 16, and has discipline problems. RC...put Willy in the joke pile with ira & Ron.

John M you hit the nail on the head! The most sense out of all. Everyone is after the wrong people. Maybe its G. Bush's fault too!

As a new resident here, I cannot tell you how pathetic and ridiculous this is. Two teams from the same town, involved in this kind of fighting? Parents who live vicariously through their (waste of time) football playing sons and defend criminal behavior?

If you want to look at the future realistically, it's not your football prowess that is going to make a big difference in where you go in life- maybe the idiot parents should think about how a criminal record is going to influence things.

Small-minded people thinking that a FOOTBALL TEAM is some kind of accomplishment and that a coach is some kind of local celebrity- how insanely provincial. I am cheered by the people on here who have the decency to be embarrassed and disgusted by these events.

Public disapproval is a good thing that works wonders. I am glad the tide is turning because there should be no tolerance for this.

What gets me is that no one here is questioning all of these alleged "witnesses" who saw the whole thing from the garage of the house where the fight started to the 9 jumping in their SUV & chasing these boys down the street. Why didn't any of you try to stop it? Why didn't you get the "parents" of the host to stop it? Why didn't you dial 911? Why didn't you knock on a neighbors door for help? Something, anything instead of cowardly standing by watching these boys get jumped on, kicked, & punched. So if you were such good sumaritians this would have gone as far as it has. You are all no better than the kids that actually gave the beating!!!

Another thing that no one is commenting on is that if the parents who were "hosting" this party had taken things into their own hands instead of asking their son & his friends to kick people out this wouldn't have happened either. When will they have to answer for their actions? The problem with today's society is that parents want to be their kids friend instead of being their mom or dad. That's not why we were put on this earth. We are here to teach how to be good people. Kudos to all of the parents involved who have sat back and let the school district & coach olsen be their childs parent.

This issue rests with the parents of these boys first. Poor upbringing. Lack of character and integrity. Most kids today have no respect for themselves(steriods) nor have the coping skills needed to take into adulthood. To escalate this to a fight where somebody is knocked unconscious shows a level of hate that is downright frightening. I would add that our society has been let down on many levels for many years...........BOE, administrators, principal and coaches all condone a win at all cost mentality. Having a wall of trophies and the most wins in a career is hollow if you lack integrity and character. Most kids today will grow up clueless about how to handle advesity and relationships. They can thank their mentors and parents for that. Kids may be bigger and physically stronger than years ago but that is more than offset by their inability to use critical thinking skills.

Wow you people are a bit over the top. We are talking about a violent crime alledgedly committed by a group of Football Players. If the evidence is compelling then the player should be suspended off the team without consideration of State Championships. The School board and everyone else involved stumbled when they made the
decision to let the WH players play and they have now made this right. Take out the sports angle and imaginethat a pack of kids, beat up some other kids what would you expect to be done?? Use your head people these Atheletes should be held to a higher standard or at least the same standard as everyone else. I like all Wayne teams and appreciate the value of organized sports but its all of the things like hard work, unity, learning to work with and respect others that are the important lessons that come from sports, and that can't be counted in the Win Loss column even if for many Wayne adults think so. Get it together people, life lessons are not always easy and these kids need to pay a price for their mistake...

In todays papers, now our Bd of Ed trustees are weighing in. ABOUT TIME! Now, all of a sudden they're in agreement with the kids not playing. After public opinion overwhelmingly stated they were against these kids playing, our illustrious trustees jump on the bandwagon and go with the flow! What happened last week? We didn't hear them say this! They were silent about our players playing in last wek's game.!

i hope all of the wayne apologists on this forum are part of the defense team. You will get the following. The kid is 16, not 15....because of that throw out this case becaise ALL of the other facts must also be incorrect. lmfao. Or I was there (and was an innocent bystander witness who did nothing to stop it)and the kids that were beaten up were so drunk (i guess beating up drunk kids is okay and better then beating up sober kids????) that they could have passed out on there own. Kicking and stomping on a drunken passed out kid is now legal? on my god what a hoot. . Please please RC and the dude....join their defense team. I cant wait for the judge to hear these unbelievable defenses, These kids must all be innocent

Look at the pic......worshipping a rock!! Idol worship at its very best. I pray the gutless high school administrators and the BOE will wake up and realize how serious these allegations are. They are way way behind the curve on this one and no excuses. It sure looks like the town is run by the Football Coach and not his bosses. I guess all that winning over the years has given everybody an excuse to protect the program like Penn State. I would hope the coach would admit his error and realize that winning is NOT everything and that he would get much more respect for standing up to violence of any kind. Talk is cheap.......actions and deeds matter.

So People... Heres the LEGAL definition of what these NINE boys are charged with:
"the indifference to the VALUE of human life"... Great coaching and the fact the parents are sending out email to other hills parents is sicking... I am thinking about sending a few of the "Hills Mothers" emails to the Bergen Record...

A person is guilty of aggravated assault if he or she attempts to cause serious bodily injury to another or causes such injury purposely, knowingly, or recklessly under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to the value of human life; or attempts to cause or purposely or knowingly causes bodily injury to another with a deadly weapon. In all jurisdictions statutes punish such aggravated assaults as assault with intent to murder (or rob or kill or rape) and assault with a dangerous (or deadly) weapon more severely than "simple" assaults.

Willy, That would be a great idea to send the emails to the RECORD. It would be a shocker, I bet! Most parents NEVER wore a jock strap and live thru their kids. Instead of being a "friend" to your kid, trying being a "parent". Show some boundaries and rules. This is especially true for parents that "work for others" and hate their day to day lives. Otherwise, they would be focusing on raising their kids to handle what they will be facing in the not too distant future........high unemployment, globalization and competition for fewer and fewer high paying jobs.

i would love to see some of those emails that depict the small-mindedness of these parents. Somehow the 2 WV kids are the guilty ones along with the whole jealous community for trying to topple their kingdom. No blame should be placed upon them or anyone in their kingdom. Lets just cover it up as best we can and get out there and win one for Olsen. Time to end this charade and topple the kingdom thet the BOE allowed to be built right in front of their eyes

rcrc1 you will never get it because you are an olsen apologist. take your blinders off. first of all, many on here like you have blamed the Wv kids for instigating the fight and that is irrelevant. no matter what they did or said it should never have become a 9 v 2 incident. As for Olsen, who exactly was he protecting? His dual role of AD and head coach is a conflict of interest esp. since he readily and easily suspends players from other sports so easily and without "due process". Any reputable coach would have benched those kids for making a bad choice that hurt other kids, and that let down their teammates. It is a very simple concept. You break my rules you pay the piper. The buck stops here. But it appears winning was more important. It is a moral and ethical issue and if you dont understand then you probably dont have any morals or ethics yourself.

I feel very bad for ALL the children involved bc I cant help but notice THE PARENTS of students defending the accused by way of justifying lesser offenses! Absurd! Oh they didn't all attack them at once ...oh the kids they were hitting were drunk they were laughing ...they passed out from booze not blunt force trauma ((so by all means continue to hit them ) you people are so far up your own that you actually sound like you believe yourselves ....bottom line you are a parent and SHOULD NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES CONDONE MAKE EXCUSES FOR OR DEFENS VIOLENCE ...shame on you ...more than anyone involved

Stewart Resmer - you seem like a good upstanding citizen . I propose you undertake the Olsen investigation. Establish a way for any interested non-anonymous parties to step forward and make a complete list of every complaint/inequity/.indiscretion that can be verfied regarding Olsen. Put it together in a clear concise document for Mr Olsen to address. Send a copy to all members of the Board, the Superintendent, The NJSIAA, the District reps, and the State Board. If people have issues that need clarification they should be addressed in their entirety. The BOE has some explaining to do.

PAY PROBLEM PARENTS NOT TO BREED. Some people just should not have kids.
There is a group within our society who give their children no hope or opportunity from the moment they are born. They do not teach values that will last a lifetime, just excuses and more excuses for reckless behavior. I would advocate the state of NJ to pay $25K to some couple to keep from having kids........just saying. This incident proves I may be onto something.

Should be an interesting board of ed meeting tonight. What seems to be missing here is the conflict with Olsen being coach and A.D. I think he is a great football coach but there is too much conflict with him also being A.D. He needs to either step down from being A.D. or be asked to step down from that role. A coach should not be A.D.

Anybody taking the AD job would be setting themselves up for failure before they start.
No AD lasts if the coach is successful and owns the town. Only way that works is if you bring in a very strong ethical no nonsense AD who has the support implicitly and explicitly with the town, BOE and Admin. Kapeeche?

RCRC has a post above that states that he/she was there at every incident and knows every detail. Did you make a statement to the police? Perhaps you should so your real name will come out in the police report. So you must eother be a parent or a student or an infant not yet in school. If you are a parent then shame on you for witnessing this incident and not stepping in. You are also quilty. If you are a student then please explain how you can post repeatedly while you are supposed to be in class. Maybe you are an infant?

I seriously doubt anybody would dispute the number of wins this coach has over the years. His accomplishments are without dispute, period. The way this incident was handled is the issue, not his ability to coach or win. That is indisputeable. This would or would have all gone away if either the Admin, BOE or the Coach would have done the right thing. In my day, my coach would have said the following....."nobody is allowed to practice let alone play if they are arrested and a crime as serious as this is alleged. My reputation as a coach and teacher along with the teams has been breached and as such, you can not practice until the issue is resolved by the courts" END OF STORY. That would have taught a lesson that character and integrity counts. This coach would have looked like a hero and only those involved would have been upset. If it meant losing to Vernon then the coach could have said, "I did it my way and integrity and character matters". The whole state of NJ would have been in awe of such a move. Again, State Penn thought they were above common sense.......just saying.

@ RCRC1 in reference to your statement "when they are proved guilty then the parents will take action... until then INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY" I think any should have the ability to speak with their child and have a frank discussion about the facts and then determine whether their child needs to be punished and then do so in private, the idea that they have to be proven guilty in court before a parent should take action is insane and it also speaks to the bigger problem here, parents need to take responsibility for their children and instead of worrying about keeping them in "The big Game" they should worry about what kind of adults their children will be. Indulging your children and defending them when they have done something terribly wrong only creates a sense of false entitlement. Parents need to be the voice of reason, these kids already get treated like heroes by everyone else around them because they are on the football team, which is ok but someone needs to help these kids navigate thru these touch issues and make sure they get the important lessons in life. The issue here is that there was a fight and people were hurt and there is plenty of blame to go around but letting any of the kids involved play and not benching them shows that The coach puts the game before the kids in my eyes. There is an important life lesson in all of this and im afraid an important opportunity has been blow.

Society including teachers, admin, BOE's, and yes, coaches have taught too many parents that cheating, stealing, infidelity, steriods, bullying, they are all OK. No boundaries, no curfews, no nothing. Just me me me! Stray dogs after a hurricane act better them some adults. Any questions?

Frank....I sincerely appreciate your response to my post. I surely don't know all the details or innergoings of whay happened here or how the Board trustees are handling this thing. I would think that the Board would have control over this matter and not let Roth run wild with it. So when you say that the Trustees did not want to publicly disagree with him, I respectfully disagree with you. The trustees should have control, not Roth. Roth should be speaking with the advice and consent of the trustees. None of the trustees with the exception of Mordkoff came out with an opinion. They were all passing the buck and I question their leadership. For 2 or 3 days last week it was a rudderless ship. This is a complex situation. They had ample time to develop a strategy and did not. Even the Record in an editorial indicated there was no leadership.

I would add to Tom Traccone that, liability wise, is if one of these alleged students got into another altercation while on school property after being arrested how would the BOE answer to that? The lawsuit that would ensure would be an avalanche whereby Wayne would not have enough money to settle that suit. The school has taken a huge gamble letting students who have been arrested continue to attend. That is a risk that is too high for most sensible people. I would cringe at the rage that would follow. Perhaps all hell breaking loose would be the result.

Our Board Trustees oversee oue educational system, which is in the business of educating, ( teaching ) By allowing our kids to play last week, I wonder.......what did we teach them? Did we fail by letting them play? I think so.!

Alot of people here claiming to know all about this and saying they or their children witnessed the whole incident. If this is true then either you or your children should do the right thing and give sworn statements to the police. If alcohol is involved and these children were drunk then that is still against the law and the parents who hosted this party should also be arrested. I am sure the EMT and the hospital staff would know the differance between someone passed out from alcohol or someone that was beaten unconcious. All of you who were witnesses have a moral obligation to step foward. If you don't you are all cowards and you are condoning this type of behaviour.

This will all come out in wash and the defenders will disappear into the woodwork. to say that the Victim was drunk passed out and not knocked out may or may not be true but if its not true then this is putting the blame on the victim sort of like saying "Well she had on a short skirt and she was asking for it" Think about what yous saying none of us has all of the facts but a few things are clear, there was an attack and people got hurt, and were was this "Party" and were parents in attendance? if so the police should be looking into that aspect

RCRC is very quiet. let me summarize a few of her rants on this forum. The WV kids are at fault because they showed up drunk and instigated a fight. The WH kids didnt do anything wrong. She gave us a list of kids getting some type of scholarship based on the wayne hills football website (BY the way they list 7 players from the 2010 graduating class and only 1 of them is on a roster for football). Oh yes, the school doesnt have any jurisdiction. Only dissenters must be WV parents jealous of the Whills success. How come they were thrown off the football tem but can still attend class? In a nutshell these are the rantings of somebody that resides in a nutshell, which is a NUT.

@ Irapasses You are pretty much on Point, RCRC obviously supports WH and the football team which is all good but really you have to be able to be a little objective about these things which RCRC cannot be. I like to read the paper and see that WH, WV and any other teams from Wayne from whatever sports are having success but for 99.9% of these kids someday soon organized sports will be a distant memory and being able to throw a football 50 yards will have very little meaning if these kids don't have solid morals and morals are taught in the home and at school and many other places.

Ski4....with all due respect, I disagree. Here's why. The trustees are elected by the taxpayers. The Superintendent is appointed by the Board. I'm not condoning we tell him what to say. I am condoning that I would want to know the basis of what he's going to say. That what he says meets the policy as set forth by the Board. We had a superintendent prior, DeSico who was a loose cannon and went around doing and saying things he shouldn't have. He was replaced. I like Roth. I'm not throwing him under the bus by any means. This is a very high profile situation needless to say. I'd want to make sure we're all in sync before anyone speaks on the Board's behalf. What is said could have national implications. If the super feels it's over managing, tough! I don't think Roth would.

it only took two senators to straighten this out lets see how long this superintendent lasts. by the way what was all those kids doing outside when the governor issued a state of emergency because of the storm where were their parents?

you guys have to watch channel 77 right now. i am so embarrassed

Irapaasea... Facts are true buddy

It's a football game, the boe isn't going to throw them in jail or lynch them, come on, A GAME!!!!!!!! Again, if the parents did their job and didn't let them play, no one would be there to argue about it. Stop raising your kids like they're animals and teach morals to at least stop the fight, not watch it. Contrary to popular belief, this game, in the grand scheme of things, will not matter if these kids played or not. The parents have the money to pay for tuition as they do their lawyers.

http://www.wayneschools.com/district/board_of_education/policies_and_regulations/documents/DistrictPolicyHarassmentIntimidationBullying5512.pdf

Here ya go...this will be one of the first Anti-Bullying cases in the state under the new law...

And the players are allowed to play!

Interim Roth? We pay this man a fortune and he changes his mind like the wind blows. First he lets them play, then they are benched, then the Wayne Hills Posse shows up and he changes his mind again. All I heard at that meeting was about Due Process, blah, blah, blah. I guess everyone in jail awaiting trial should be let out until they are found guilty so the get their Due Process. Anybody hear the words PROBABLE CAUSE. Obviously there was enough information to arrest these students, maybe a few were not guilty at all. But rest assured those two WV boys didn't assault themselves. There will be plenty of bad publicity and lawsuits to go around on this for sure. The new Superintendant all I have to say is "Welcome to Wayne" Best advice "Leave while you can". They will destroy you and your reputation here. The showing at the BOE was a disgrace. Not one word of regret or any mention of the two boys who were assaulted. My advice to their parents is "Get the best lawyers you can". I have no connection to either school or the teams. This is my opinion as a taxpayer and a person feels these individuals should be responsible for their actions. If they didn't assault anyone or they weren't there let them play. By the time this is worked out the season will be over. He as a coach should have benched them. His history isn't one that is all roses. I wonder what would be if these boys weren't on his team and how much he would have supported them if they were just plain everyday students.

Pad welcome to the machine, this is what kind of power that Wayne Hills football team generates. The lawyers the connectionsthis is nepotism at it's worse. The sad thing is that these kids are watching the adults and learning TODAY'S LESSON OF THE DAY: "whatever you do don't accept responsibility" Olsen should concern himself a little more with doing what's right and less about fielding a team. Its a disgrace.

This BOE is a total disgrace indeed, it just goes to show that money and lawyers will make even what we ALL know to be wrong, right!!! I am glade that the press got a hold of this and wrote it up for everyone to see just what Wayne township is about. How many people now will want to move to Wayne for the school system?? They should put signs up that say Wayne Schools, a place where you can do anything in the name of football.

Hopefully the Police Department will not be influenced by the politics and the BOE in this town and do their jobs as they are sworn to do. Maybe this investigation should be handed over to the Prosecutors Office so as to avoid any Conflict of Interest.

I say take these "football players" and send them off to play in a real war. Then lets see if they have learned any lessons away from Olsen.
Oh, by the way, has Olsen ever served the United States of America in any capacity, other than bully.
I would really like to know

Dirty Old Town
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNX3hQbSVmM&feature=related

If you keep telling these kids how great they are and subject them to no punishments how do they learn responsibility and accountability? Many of the apologists were "worried" about lawsuits if the 9 were not allowed to play. What about the lawsuit from the teacher for having an arrested/charged felon still roaming the halls and wrecking havoc . See Air Horn article. Somehow the incident happened on Friday before the game and the 2 "alleged" perps were still allowed to play v Paramus. Anyone see a pattern here? http://www.northjersey.com/news/Air_horn_blast_injures_Wayne_Hills_teacher_at_pep_rally.html

Fox News:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1289848115001/teen-football-players-charged-with-assault-allowed-to-play

Congrats to Coach Olsen and the wayne hills football players for this amazing press! Hey all press is good press right Coach. What a sham this guy is, just a bad person and the BOE should be ashamed but they will pay the price i am sure. People need to lose their jobs

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1289848115001/teen-football-players-charged-with-assault-allowed-to-play