Update: Police Report: Football Player Blows Air Horn Into Teacher's Eye
Interim Superintendent said that playing football is a "privilege."
Wayne School District officials are looking into an alleged incident involving a beleaguered Wayne Hills High School football player blowing an air horn into a teacher’s face Friday afternoon and injuring her eye at a pep rally.
Star player and team captain Andrew Monaghan, 18, who was among nine football players charged with aggravated assault earlier this month after they allegedly attacked two Wayne Valley High School students after a party, was involved in the incident, according to a police report.
According to the report, teacher Marina Cangialosi was on duty in the stands during the Friday rally and noticed that student Joe Lane, also a football player, had something in his hand hidden behind his back. Cangialosi asked Lane, 18, for the item, but he resisted giving it to her.
The report states that Lane tried passing it to Monaghan, who was next to him, but Monaghan also refused to give the item to Cangialosi. Cangialosi asked for the item again.
Lane is quoted in the report as saying, “Mrs. Cangialosi, look, it is only an air horn.”
Lane then pointed the air horn toward Cangialosi and activated it, according to the report.
Cangialosi stated to police that the horn was so close to her face that she felt the effect of it in her right eye. She also stated that her vision in that eye became blurry.
The report also states that Cangialosi believes that the air horn was not activated with the intent of hurting her, only to show her that it was an air horn. Cangialosi confiscated the air horn, and then drove herself to Chilton Hospital in Pequannock, police said.
Roth stated that it is a “privilege” to play high school football. He also said, “participating in high school sports can provide valuable learning experiences for children.”
The Wayne Hills High School handbook states that insubordination is “the act of deliberately disobeying authority. Students are expected to comply with the instructions of administrators, teachers, and staff at all times throughout the school day.”
The district’s code of conduct states that high school students can receive up to a three-day long out of school suspension for a first-time offense of insubordination.
Wayne Police Chief John Reardon said that Lane and Monaghan have not been charged in the incident. Cangialosi would have to make a formal statement to police in order for that to occur, he said.
Interim Superintendent Michael Roth said Monday afternoon, that “the district is taking appropriate steps to address the incident.”
Sean Spiller, president of the Wayne Education Association, said he was aware of the incident Monday, adding that he believes district administrators are “acting appropriately to address the situation.”
Wayne Hills Principal Scot Beckerman declined comment.
Nine Hills football players, including Monaghan, were charged with aggravated assault Nov. 8 after they, according to police, attacked two Wayne Valley High School students after a party on Urban Club Road Oct. 29.
The players were allowed to play in the team’s first- and second-round state playoff games at Wayne Hills earlier this month. Roth suspended the players from participating in the second-round game Nov. 16, but district officials placed a stay on the ban the next day. The board is expected to issue a final ruling on the matter Nov. 29.
stewart resmer
10:54 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
and, if these two students had been banned from playing at all the night then perhaps this incident would have never have happened but nooooooooo......
John Wayne
1:14 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Don't rush to judgment. Innocent until proven guilty, lawyer up. none of you know what really happened,
Ron
1:33 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Hey John. Sounds like a line used once too often. I think in the case of this stupid air horn, in the middle of a huge crowd, its pretty obvious who's guilty. Or were you being sarcastic with your comment. In that case, disregard .
stewart resmer
4:10 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
mmmm...cats really out of the bag on a nationwide level now huh?
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1289848115001/teen-football-players-charged-with-assault-allowed-to-play
D Miller
8:50 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Where does the fault lie ? While the individuals are responsible for their own actions. The coach for his not taking any action. I would think the Board allowing this to continue is where the "Buck Should Stop ". They and they alone could have taken all the appropriate corrective measures and chose not to. They have failed and failed miserably in their capacity as elected representatives. Venting here on this forum is an outlet i suppose and may serve a purpose. However until we ( self included ) hold those on the Board accountable, we are as guilty of doing nothing as they have been .
Wayne's World
11:08 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Nice. One would think football players would be walking on eggshells right now. Clearly not. You would think Monaghan in particular would be on his best behavior. He clearly has no respect for authority and no shame for the situation he's in right now.
Willy
10:59 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Ya got that right...it just shows the lack of respect... She's lucky she didn't loose her hearing! Bully the kids and now bully the teachers,,, in my day there at least would. Be detention... This just sucks!
Debbie
11:17 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Wayne School District makes the media again. Thanks Wayne Hills, you're on a roll.
Michelle
11:18 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
This is what happeds when kids are sent the wrong message...they continue their bad behaviors...unbelievable! This child's mother should make sure he doesn't play football until he can learn to behave properly.
Albert
12:13 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Michelle, I agree. However I am sure his mother is saying that this is a Salem Witch hunt and defending her son from his actions. After all, it is not like the blinded her in both eyes.
Michelle
12:30 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Albert, exactly...that's why he acts the way he does...children learn from their parents...how shameful these parents are to allow their children to get away with this. A good "crack in the head" is in order...but unfortunately it may be too late.
Bob
11:47 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
We have already seen that anything can be done to anyone in the wonderful world of Olsen/Wayne football. When will someone take control of this town!!!
John Lynch
11:51 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Everyone please send an email to the BOE members Boardmembers@Wayneschools.com and ask how many frequent fighter miles does this punk have to earn before they suspend this bully. Can't wait for Olsen or the rest of the kool aid drinkers at Hills High School to come to his defense!!
Joe videodummy
11:57 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
I think they should attach that air horn to Margret's golf cart. She drives that thing like an old Panzer tank. She's a pair of M-38 resistal googles short of looking like Telly Savalas ( Kojak ) in Kelly's Hero's.
eyes wide shut
11:58 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Yet another shinning moment for Wayne Hills and its players. This continues to prove that one can not make chicken salad out of chicken crap. The kid is trouble and most everyone knows that. Im sure later on down the line we will be reading about Mr Monaghan in the future. I can only imagine just how proud the coach and his parents are of him... Coach Olsen has the former owner of the Oakland Raiders motto. "Just win baby"...Smart move in Mr Monaghans parents getting Kal Giest for his lawer. Mr Giest has already said that his clients arm was in a sling during the fight?? LOL. Was his arm in a sling when he blasted the air horn too? Just wondering LOL..
Albert
12:15 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
was his arm in a sling when he also played in the next game, which I think was only two days later. Hmm, what a fast recovery. Cant throw a punch, but two days later can play football.
John Wayne
11:59 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Also, please e-mail or go to site www.njsiaa.org. to offer info or opinions regarding disciplinary proceedings for exclusion of Hills and Olsen from interscholastic play.
Ron
12:09 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Nice. I see that these kids not only have no respect for their peers, they weren't raised to respect adults, especially teachers. Really disgusting. I am sure they all have their line of excuses for all these incidences and will never have any remorse or need to apologize. This should be a wake up call for all parents (including me) to reevaluate our parenting skills. You don't want your child to be a Lane or Monaghan.
Karen Lavandowski
9:29 pm on Friday, November 25, 2011
RON YOUR A PIECE OF CRAP!!!!!!!!!!! YOU SHOULD ONLY WISH YOU COULD HAVE A LANE OR A MONAGHAN .......DONT ASSUME THAT THEIR IS NO REMORSE YOU ARE A DISGRACE
Scondo
12:18 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Lock down in cell block 8.
Squeakyfoot
12:20 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
KID'S i.e. toddler, tyke, rug rat, schoolboy, weanling, brat, devil, hellion, imp, jackanapes, mischief maker, rapscallion, rascal , rogue, whippersnapper, teener, teenybopper, lad, nipper, tad, bobby-soxer, tomboy, moppet, squirt, bambino.
When you refer to "students" as kid's, your promoting their actions. Your saying you don't condone the actions because you understand who they are, what they are, and why they do what they're doing.
When you call them "kid"s", don't cry when they act like one.
Michelle
12:32 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
What happened to him immediately after this happened? Were they sent to the dean? Was this great "captain" reprimanded? No, he playing in the game again that night...SICKENING!
Scondo
12:41 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Was the alleged perpetrator even identified ? Some are speaking as if the person who did this is known. Regardless, the person who did do it lacks judgment and should be counselled immediately.
Michelle
12:45 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Scondo, the report actually says:
"According to the report, teacher Marina Cangialosi was on duty in the stands during the Friday rally and noticed that student Joe Lane, also a football player, had something in his hand hidden behind his back. Cangialosi asked Lane, 18, for the item, but he resisted giving it to her. The report states that Lane tried passing it to Monaghan, who was next to him, but Monaghan also refused to give the item to Cangialosi. Cangialosi asked for the item again. Lane is quoted in the report as saying, “Mrs. Cangialosi, look, it is only an air horn.”
So yes, he was identified...the teacher knows who blew the horn in her face.
Scondo
12:53 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Sorry, for some reason it wasn't clear who actually had done it. Sounds like one big joke over there. Everything is a lark. This is one of the reasons that people claim they home school. They say that government schools do not have any controls, and that is starting to look like more the case.
Michelle
1:02 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Scondo, no problem. And you're right, government does not have control in the schools but I blame the parents for that...school officials are afraid to do anything for fear of being sued by the parents. My son was in a terrible incident last year and it took the mention of a gun to warrant the school from reacting. The kid was not allowed to graduate and the parents are still seeking legal actions against the school. So I feel bad for the school officials...it's really the parents that need to learn to be parents and stop acting if it's never "their child".
John Wayne
1:36 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Michelle - Cangiolose was victim, identified attacker, Valley boys were victims, identified attackers.
Paul Karsevar
12:52 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
The state championship game is scheduled for Dec. 3rd. Let's see if the can gets kicked down the road a little more. I would not expect a decsision to made before then. This whole situation has gotten completely out of control. This air horn incident would not even be news if the the proper action was taken back in October. Remember that? It is pretty obvious that the game has gotten more importatnt than anything else. The coaches, the principal the boe and the parents all have their agendas. It is just too bad when this happens. When one school get all the attention for all the wrong reasons. There are a lot of good people who go to Hills and they are getting a bad rap. But I guess that is not what is about. Let's make a decision after the game is played.
Ron
1:32 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Hate to see the police report on the football players after at the States. What else will they get hands on? In a way, I hope they win, so that no one has to be a victim of any of them if they lose. Lord only help us then.
Albert
1:16 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
One of the sad realities is that there are so many boys on this team that are working hard, staying out of trouble and are actually very good kids. It is a shame they are being disgraced by their teammates.
irapasses
1:16 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
How were they allowed to play on the game a few hours after this incident? Olsen was not aware? Laughable. We are all fools
irapasses
1:18 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
And to the parents worried about all of the cost of the lawsuits if the kids were not allowed to play..... If this lady has any permanent eye damage she should sue everyone invved including the entire BOE . An alleged felon out on bail and roaming the halls. Priceless
John Wayne
1:28 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Don.t rush to judgement, innocent until proven guilty, none of you know what really happened, Wait til all facts are in, two of those accused weren't even there, let the justice system take its course, what about teacher's actions?, teacher shouldn't be driving with blurry vision, I'm glad but amazed that she could drive herself with serious eye injury.I heard she was out of E.R. in two hours, Not Coach's fault, team has dress code, Coach helped alot of players,Don't blame the parents, Not in school, Not on school grounds, Not during regular school activity, Pep rally isn't educational, so teacher wasn't a teacher and students weren't students. Etc.
Michelle
1:35 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Thanks that actually gave me a chuckle...but unfortunately it's true so it's sad, too...
John Wayne
1:58 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Michelle, glad you are laughing,These are comments made on Hills' behalf regarding the beatings, They are just as valid here as in prior incident.
Didn't you say yesterday that your relative was involved in air horn incident?
Michelle
2:07 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
John,
I said it gave me a chuckle but also said it's very sad. I am in NO way laughing at the beating of 2 Valley students, I was mearly stating that your comment was funny in an ironic way. And, no, I didn't mention anything of the sort about an air horn incident in my family. I am on your side but you just may be overreating to my comment. No offense meant.
Potter
11:59 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
I heard this was not a pep rally but a school spirit assembly during the school day. So the teacher was a teacher and the students involved can be suspended for this one. It's not just a matter that she got hurt but clearly the students were disrespectful here.
Ron
1:39 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
An Olsen TweetsCarolina Panthers tight end Greg Olsen took to Twitter Wednesday night to criticize police, the Wayne schools chief and the media, hours after nine members of his alma mater's football team were suspended from extracurricular activities in the middle of a playoff run.
The nine Wayne Hills players are accusing of assaulting two Wayne Valley students.
In a tweet directed at a reporter for the Bergen Record newspaper, Olsen wrote, "hope u feel good. 9 kids who haven't even had a chance to defend themselves have been found guilty bc of witchhunt. ... led by u and people who have no knowledge of the situation. A wrecklass police chief and a coward board super. What a joke."
Olsen, a first round pick of the Bears in 2007, was a first team All American as a senior at Wayne Hills. His father, Hills coach Chris Olsen, finds himself down nine players as his powerhouse team looks to defend its state championship.
Joe videodummy
2:00 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
It's amazing that everyone can have so much to say from an article that clearly states Andrew Monaghan did not take possession of the air-horn and that the teacher stated the student that had it, did not intend to hurt her when he activated it.
As John Wayne stated: Teacher's should not be driving with blurred vision. Nothing in the article states the air-horn was illegal, or used for the purpose of creating an injury.
Nobody has been suspended, and this is just another non-issue filled with baseless inuendo.
The phyicial trainer conficated the air-horn and duck taped it on her golf cart. That's all you need to know.
Michelle
2:08 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
You are a real piece of work. Go away for the sake of us all!
John Wayne
2:20 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Joe - Paraphrasing Michelle - don't go away mad, just go away.
Ron
3:26 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Joe think about how from a legal perspective how this can really turn into a lawsuit.
If I were to represent Mrs. Cangialosi I would recommend her to sue the Township of Wayne for not providing a "0" tolerance for violence, and safe work place. The fact that Andrew Monaghan, is involved at any level of another incident that caused an injury is deplorable. Clearly by not disciplining him for a previous violent act has enabled him to believe there are no consequences for the so called "Star player and team captain". I'm sure any attorney can connect the dots and dig up every incident Mr. Monaghan has every been involved in. I'm sure it will begin by interviewing students and faculty at the "Hills" to determine his demeanor. Certainly his yearbook comments will be admitted as evidence of a young man who loves to get into trouble, as evidenced in the Wayne Hills football yearbook we find Andrew’s hobbies include “Getting Under People’s Skin, Trash-Talking, Working out, Fighting with (fellow senior) Joe Lane.” Note we have both Mr. Mohaghan and Mr. Lane involved in this incident. Mrs. Cangialosi would be well within her rights to sue the Township of Wayne. Certainly Wayne Township should pay for any medical cost she incurred as a result of the incident. Finally our so-called football star and his coach have diminished Wayne Township into just another example of easily we are corrupted by winning.
John Wayne
2:08 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Joe V - Article says Andy refused to turn over air horn to teacher, How do we know she was a teacher? How could Monoghan, Lane. or several unnamed minors know if she was certified? We'll sort it out at closed door BOE attorney's presentation.
Joe videodummy
2:28 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
The article up there stated : Lane "tried to pass it" to Monaghan. They work on that pass play during extra-curricular activities ( football ) every afternoon from Augest to December. By now, Andrew knows when to, and when not to take the hand-off.
The teacher has to be a rookie, or she would have known to just throw her hands up, and Lane would have "automatically" thrown the horn to her without even thinking about it.
When they start blowing off the cannon at in-door pep ralley's, that's when we should consider stepping in and asking a few questions.
Joe videodummy
11:32 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
The article forgot to mention that certain air-horns are permitted in the school during "spirit week". This was one of those times. If it were a pencil he was holding and the pencil flicked out of his fingers and into her eye, would the media react in the same manner ?
She is a language arts teacher, and a very good one. She is a well liked person, and nobody would want to hurt her.
irapasses
2:09 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
I would love to know what kind of excuses are used in the classroom for failed assignments , bad test scores, etc. By these kids and parents. Does "coach olsen's dog ate my homework" work for multiple players?
Dory Degen
2:16 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
the teacher didn't think the football player was intentionally trying to hurt her, but it was still an aggressive act.
John Wayne
2:25 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Dory - the standard is "objective intent" Would a reasonable person know that blowing an outdoor airhorn in face would cause injury? Legally it doesn't matter what was Lane's subjective intent.
Dory Degen
2:29 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Who cares about legally. It is aggressive to put something that close to someone's face and pull the trigger. Now go do your kid's homework for him while he is at practice.
George
2:27 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
and Dory it may not have been done with the intention of hurting but it is a disrespectful act...no respect for authority or elders.... an act in my day would never have been tolerated...but when you tolerate leaving beaten kids lying beaten and unconscious on the roadway what do you expect?
Dory Degen
2:35 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
@George...we are on the same page my man, re read my comment.
John Wayne
2:36 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Dory & George - I'm on your side. Lane is responsible regardless of his actual intent because a reasonable person knows that hornblowing in face will cause injury.
John Lynch
2:37 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
The teacher involved is a neighbor of mine Monaghan had the air horn when the assault happened. She drove to the hospital with one eye closed. By the way she is a very nice women. The two people who were shot at Casey O Tools drove themselves to the hospital. I think this teacher could drive herself.
John Wayne
2:38 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Michelle - thanks for clarity. Yesterday a poster stole your name and posted that "she" is related to the hornblower. That;s how rumors start.
eyes wide shut
2:40 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
@John Lynch: Don't you find it amazing how the actions of the victim are being questioned? LOL..If stupidity were music, some of the people would be an orchestra.
John Wayne
2:42 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
www.njsiaa.org
George
2:43 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
@ Dory understood...I was just trying to embellish your point
Dory Degen
2:43 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
@John Wayne...then there must be two ppl posting with that name then becasue you keep flip flopping.
Kathy Russo
2:47 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
They are really out of control now, but that's OK if they get suspended it will be over with before the Dec 2nd game so they are good. This is just getting sadder by the minute.
Rex miatke
3:04 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
I was the loudest one cheering at the Wayne Hills game for the last 8 years. I never missed a game. I am no longer interested in going to the games and supporting these kids and coach. I will not be at the Meadowlands beacause I can not support kids who beat kids and leave them in the street and have no respect for authority. I guess I will save money this year on parking and admission. Wonder what the number will be for people at the game. Better question I wonder how many will be rooting for Wayne Hills????
PainterMan
3:06 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Wayne Hills teachers question their leadership, why, because they put Olsen and the team before an injured teacher.
abbie
3:21 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
This news site is crap, when do we start to drag people's names in the mud and they haven't even been charged with a crime. Why would you publish people's names and no charges of any kind are filed. Do you also report every other accident that happens in every high school or do you just have an issue with Wayne Hills kids? Shameful reporting, get out of the business, you sir, give journalists a bad name!
eyes wide shut
3:25 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
But DEAR ABBIE. They HAVE been charged. Where have you been? They may not have been convicted YET but they HAVE been charged..Seems YOU, abbie have selective memory. Article CLEARLY states that 1 adult and 8 minors HAVE BEEN CHARGED. Bet we ALL know who you are TRYING to support here..But anyway, NICE TRY abbie.
abbie
3:31 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Hey eyes wide shut, the article here is about an air horn accident not anything else and the article clearly reads that they have not been charged, maybe keep the eyes wide open and don'g bring in your biases about other incidents
abcoral
3:50 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Whether or not they've been charged is a moot point. It still happened and they're stil roaming the halls.
still in town 78
3:35 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
@abbie I couldnt agree with you more!
irapasses
3:35 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
everyday now seems like April fools day when dealing with WHHS and the Wayne BOE. So Abbie, now an article cannot be written about anybody until they are charged with a crime>? You're stretching this a bit dont you think? Don't worry, just give the thugs a few more days. I'm sure a crime is brewing that they will be charged for and then you will see some names in the paper. And then your next argument will be that th names shouldnt be in the paper without due process. And then the next excuse will be ............................................ANYONE SEE A PATTERN HERE?
eyes wide shut
3:38 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
ira, MOSTLY ALl with the exception of abbie see the pattern.
John
6:17 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Actually Irapasses, most real journalists will not print articles with names of individuals without them being charged. Also, most responsible police chiefs will not reveal the names of individuals who have not been charged with a crime. Someone should look into the chief's motivation behind this. Also, most REAL journalists would never have printed the name of the victim. The teacher's name should never have been in the article. Why was it printed? Does it add any value? Could this teacher now be targeted by others? Irresponsible to print names of victims and those not charged. Do we now print articles on every damn accident that takes place? Have your read any other silly articles like this one about a stupid air horn? No, you haven't but for some reason all these a--holes think it's okay to jump on the beat up Wayne Hills HS bandwagon. I don't know these boys who have been NOT charged, but I do know what real responsible journalism is, and I don't see it here.
eyes wide shut
3:37 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Dearest abbie. So these 2 "thugs" need to be charged in order for it to be wrong? If the teacher was your daughter, sister, or mother would you think the same way? Sorry i thought you were being bias on the 9 players, my mistake, you were being bias on the 2 thugs that sent a teacher to the hospital. Please accept my deepest apologies for the mistake. So you feel they need to be "charged" before their names are exposed huh? hmmm and im bias? Nice try Dear abbie.
Joe videodummy
3:43 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
From outside the school, it must have been very confusing for the unmarked police detectives posted in the parking lot. A teacher comes running out holding her hand over her eye, jumps in her car and speeds away, while inside the school the students are yelling, screaming, and tootin on air-horns.
School principals calling his students "kids", teachers speeding around town with only one eye open, parents blaming children for everything that is wrong with their educators. What's next ? Are we going to blame the students for the sodium intake everyone is going to endure over the Thanksgiving Holiday ?
It's not they're fault, the students are the victims. They need to be nurtured, and be provided all of the opportunities for a healthy and spiritual development that will play a part in their building of a civilization of peace and understanding.
Our own actions need to reflect these teachings.
Raising children that will become champions of justice requires everyone to grow and develop oneself, at the same time.
Our students are honest, and discipline. It's time to connect with them as parents, adults, mentors, teachers, neighbors and friends.
Some of you may not want to help these students achieve their goals for what-ever reason. Maybe it's because your not part of a family, or have no family values. Maybe you were neglected as children, I don't know. All I know is that when the lights come on, these stars will shine.
Kathy Russo
3:51 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Wait??? Joe are you saying it's the teachers fault she got hurt???
eyes wide shut
3:55 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Kathy. as Joe stated. "All i know is that when the lights come on, these stars will shine"..
He sounds like he spends month long vacations in the stratosphere.
irapasses
4:11 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Bizarro people (adults?) on this forum
eyes wide shut
4:13 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
ira: what makes you say that? lol....
Phil
4:18 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Fox News
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1289848115001/teen-football-players-charged-with-assault-allowed-to-play
John
4:27 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
This site is sickening.
The media, specifically this web site has consistently overplayed, if not manufactured the Wayne Hills/Wayne Valley rivalry aspect of the original incident on 10/29. Yes two participants in the altercation were students from Wayne Valley and the others were students from Wayne Hills. This fact was more coincidental than the cause of the altercation. Responsible members of the media and adults in this community should not be portraying/creating an unhealthy adversarial relationship between our two high schools where none exists!
Further, the wholesale indictment of a Football program and Head Coach as somehow at the root of this is asinine. To disparage an entire program and team of student athletes based on the unproven alleged actions of a few is ridiculously unfair and off base. As the parent of a son who has participated in football, I can attest to the tremendous number of very positive lessons our youth take from participating in organized competitive sports. Perhaps the lessons of hard work, dedication, commitment to excellence and a healthy competitive spirit are qualities that some in our society find passe'...
When all the facts are in let the proper consequences be applied to the individuals who are found to be guilty...in the meantime lets not rush to judgment and drag the reputations of these students and the quality program they participate in through the mud!
irapasses
4:42 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
i do agree that many of these innocent members of the team are having their repuatations sullied but that really falls on Olsen more then anyone else. If he just punished the kids involved this would have went away a long time ago. Now it is guilt by association. these deviants let their entire program and teammates down by not taking responsibility and by having their coach not demand responsibility. That'sife. They are all a "family". Unfortunately you re judged by who is in your family and how they abide themselves. maybe it is time for the innocent parties to take their team back.
Joe videodummy
5:24 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Takes great ira. Who does Coach Olsen punish-everyone of the nine "accused" ?
Does he decide to administer this punishment based on public outrage, or the police report that says "alleged assault" ? Recently, it's been brought to the attention that some of the accused may not have been at the scene, and other's may not have taken part in the altercation. Do we ask the coach to punish them anyway ?
Nobody is as concerned as the parents and residents of our town. We, of all people aren't delighted about the incident, and we're not in denial. We want the answers as much as anyone else, but we have to allow the courts, the police and all other officials, to make a determination on what happened, as well as "fault" if the court finds any. The process and guidelines are not being altered or squashed because of the students participation in athletics, if anything, they are being carefully reviewed as each step is applied. No one is getting away with anything.
In the mean-time, all of our students are not used to all the media attention, the mud-slinging, and the abuse that has been forced upon them. It must be very confusing, especially for those that have no association with these individuals at all.
Exploiting our youth for the reason of selling stories in the social media, shows me the pathetic nature, and extent that some will go to post a baseless accusation without merit. That's what should concern you the most.
PainterMan
5:03 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Where's Bravo TV- The Parents if Wayne, and in the intro they can hold a football- we can broadcast Wayne's parental dysfunction for the whole world to see!
Frank
8:01 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Don't worry every other news outlet in the country will soon pick up this story as it gains momentum. The time has come for the entire country to witness the inept parenting that has overtaken society. Wayne may very well become the "poster child" of football gone wild!
still in town 78
5:04 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
@john and ira: see it was an accident were are your apoliges it says right in the article it was an accidet!!!
still in town 78
5:05 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Apologies now I DEMAND THEM!!!!
still in town 78
5:05 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Apologies now!!!
still in town 78
5:06 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
now do you relize how Ridiculous you all sound!
Former Valley Gal
5:12 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
@still in town 78:
Accident or not, the students in question were still insubordinate to a figure of authority in the school district, as well as borderline disrespectful. While the rivalry in the town, and on the internet now, regarding the original (unconnected, for all intents and purposes) incident, it does not mean that people can't question why a student implicated in a serious crime would behave so callously.
You can demand apologies all you want, where is the apology to the teacher from the student's family, or from those 9 implicated students' families to the two beaten boys?
I still hold true- if the 9 had been benched in the Vernon game, I doubt this would have blown up the way it did.
Bill Brennan
5:18 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
This is not a crime and should not be turned into a witch hunt. The school encouraged participation in spirit week and rightly so. The kid made a mistake by blowing the horn in a teacher's face - he meant no harm. These are high school kids having fun at a school sponsored rally not crack heads robbing people to feed their habit. Relax.
Former Valley Gal
5:33 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Disrespecting a figure of authority is not a crime, no. However, it does say something about the characters of the young men, and perhaps for the way they were raised. While not every "bad" young adult is not a product of questionable parenting, you do have to wonder what part the parents played when respecting elders/authority was an issue at home (and whether the young people even respect their parents enough to listen in the first place, for that matter).
stewart resmer
6:24 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
so Bill, when a teacher demands a student hand over a device, but instead that student hands over the instrument to another, and then that individual blasts some ones eye out it is just kids stuff is it then?
Really?
Bill Brennan
6:34 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
There are conflicting accounts regarding the second student's involvement. I am reading quite a bit of vilification over a relatively minor infraction. Believe it or not there are much worse things happening in our schools.
Willy
11:09 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
What the hell did the kid think would happen when you triggered an air horn in some ones face??? There are warnings all over the bottle... This principle is a REAL joke!!! Glad this made the paper.. Just shows the lack of respect for human life at WHHS!
PainterMan
5:20 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Good point on all accounts Former Valley Girl- accidents do not make the behavior beyond punishment. This behavior is considered insubordination- read the report by the student resource officer- the student refused to listen to the teacher- that alone is punishable in a school setting- per district policy!
We as parents sign off that we have read the school policies every year- I guess the rules are different for some people
Joe videodummy
5:30 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Try telling that to your "no fault" insurance adjuster and watch what happens. He turns into a gecko with a top hat and sticks his toungue out
Former Valley Gal
5:30 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Exactly. Insubordination and disrespect to faculty/staff is punishable in most school districts. Was it an accident the horn went off? Perhaps, only Mr. Lane would know that for sure. Regardless, the act of refusal- on the part of both boys- is punishable within the confines of the school.
It's not a matter for the authorities, but it does speak for the characters of the students involved.
Michelle
9:24 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Joe, this is not insurance this is a school with rules....the students do not respect the teachers and this comes from the home.
still in town 78
5:31 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
@Former Valley Gal not disagreeing at all they should be careful what they say and do but at the same time the same people "john and ira" saying read the the news articles these students are serial killers still have something to say when an article says something was an accident. kinda funney aint it. maybe everyone should stop being so anti wayne hills and start being pro justice system i dont see John or Ira saying the number went from 9 to 7 to 3 and one of them was in a sling and was punched in the face prior to the reported start of the fight. john and ira just tend not to pay attetion to those articles cause they dont promote their cause!!!
Bob
5:35 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
This story has now hit the news papers and is on Fox news for ALL to see. I think that we should now demand that Olsen and every member on the Board be sent packing before this Township becomes a place that no one wants to be a part of. This is out of control!!!
Joe videodummy
5:40 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Fox 5. That's the cartoon channel for adults on med's and other substances. Listen to WABC AM Radio. When it get's to John Bachlor, then it's news worth listen to.
John Wayne
6:28 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Joe V - adults on meds or steroids?
irapasses
6:01 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
the kid was in a sling? so what? his legs and his workboots still worked didnt they? And how serious was his injury that he has not missed a game and played a few days later? He couldnt have slipped out of that sling for a few shots could he have? s that really the defense now? APOLOGISTS UNITE there is a new defense.
And now somehow disrespecting a teached is apologized away . If i was already in serious trouble and licky to be playing after the BOE gave me a reprieve 10 or so hours before this incident I would just sit down and shut up and do as i am told. RESPECT is the issue and when the coach does not demand it how can the players?
irapasses
6:04 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Can the WHHS football apologists at least admit that these kids are guilty of something? anything at all? give me a crumb please so i dont continue to think your brain has not shutdown altogether. How about I agree these kids let down their teammates by not separating themselves from a possible volatile situation? ACN you at least admit that that might be true??
John Wayne
6:09 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
IRA - your crumb is www.njsiaa.org. Dont expect Videodummy or Still at Home 78 to understand your posts.
Joe videodummy
10:02 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Never leave a fallen comrade. Every one implicated was a school-mate, even if they went to a different school, they went to diffent schools "together". Many young bucks get a sudden impulse to clash antlers, it's human nature. Never, under any circumstances leave when someone is still lying on the ground wounded or unconscious. Never leave the scene of an accident. It's not the fight or the accident, it's what you do next that will make the difference between being held accountable and responsible for your actions, or being delinquent. Bad situations become worse when left unattended.
rocketjsquirrel
6:27 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
So, the teacher is a Valley parent? Clearly the situation was contrived.
Frank
7:50 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
No, clearly your ignorance is indicative of Mr. Olsen's kool aid drinking football cult.
JESUS
6:49 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
he's awesome...u can sleep in his class and still get an A+
vic dipasquale( gym teacher punches somebody on school grounds) becouse someone was doing a skit of him entertaining girls in his gym office. he could not handle the skit this punching the student - it on tape- you tube
he lose coackhing girls soccer/ vollyball /baseball jobs the now nave him teaching in eastbrook 5thru 8graders( wheres child welfare dept.) and he got cought stealing school fund from carwashs he had about every weeking(built adition on his/sister house with money) he a convicterd felon still teching gym. talk about the state lawa protecting our students
meanwhile janis dime (superintendent)got fired for hide information about tainted soill in paramus. (election year)
i think vic dipasquale should go get a teaching job at wayne hills so he can punch student / teachers esp. olsen (them to have a lot in common in coverups)
good work paramus board of education for keepinf vic in board hope he dous not punch another student - who cares look john corzine is still walking free he only stole at last count 600 billion from investers. whats fat boy/ da doinng in nj eating turkey counting the years till pension kicks in.
state welfate /abuse committe works good
lets hire obamas super committe - let them decide
irapasses
7:22 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Stillintown78 is more concerned about an apology from me because I stated the hooligans were guilty of disrespect and insubordination. Have the hooligans ever apologized for their offenses which actually have affected other human beings lives? Nice priorities
irapasses
7:26 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Do all the football players get to use "coach Olsen's dog ate my homework" as an excuse in class? Seems excuses get practiced pretty regularly and trump responsibility and accountability . Maybe they learn this from their parents and not Coach? Maybe both? Someone should take credit for building then into what they have become
irapasses
7:36 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Dan,
Respect is a dirty word to many on this forum. Be careful what you delete .
irapasses
7:37 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Add integrity, honor , character, responsibility, accountability , common sense to your moderators list of dirty words
irapasses
7:48 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Wayne hills football Facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wayne-Hills-High-School-Football-Team/107211442643206
Kitty Kat
8:15 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
This is on Wayne Valley's website under the Athletics Dept:
Conduct of Athletics:
A firm and fair policy of enforcement is necessary to uphold the regulations and standards of the athletic department. The community, school administrators and the coaching staff feel strongly that high standards of conduct and citizenship are essential in maintaining a sound program of athletics. The welfare of the student is our major consideration and transcends any other consideration.
All athletes shall abide by a code of ethics which will earn them the honor and respect that participation and competition strives to achieve. Wayne Valley Athletes should exemplify good school citizenship through the following:
Classroom behavior
Code of dress
Conduct at school functions
Conduct on buses, in the locker room and at opposing schools.
Behavior outside of school
STUDY habits conducive to academic success
ADHERE TO TRAINING RULES- The NJSIAA has established sportsmanship as their #1 priority in 2003-2004. It is expected our athletes will adhere to all NJSIAA rules including those of sportsmanship.
I cannot find anything like this on Wayne Hills website. I guess that's why the players, their parents, the coach, and the BOE can justify letting the players play & letting this whole situation get out of hand. THEY HAVE NO RULES! Wayne will not heal until the leaders of our town do the right thing. Bench these players. Let the healing begin.
rocketjsquirrel
8:58 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Because you can't find it, it doesn't exist? It's there, keep looking. Both schools have exactly the same code of ethics. I posted the link previously. And you added "Behavior outside of school" - nice try.
Who is controlling Valley anyway - kids from Hills can no longer take auto shop there because it's unsafe - I thought everything in the Valley was happy...yeah, Happy Valley, hmmmm
Ron
8:41 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
I think its clear, no one got the memo on a code of conduct at the BOE of Wayne.
Kitty Kat
9:09 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
rocketjsquirrel do your homework. Check the facts. I didn't add "Behavior outside of school". Here's the link http://www.wayneschools.com/schools/high/waynevalley/athletics/
irapasses
9:20 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
squirrel - even if behavior outside of school was not listed (it is!) does that mean good behavior outside of school should not be adhered to? so whats your response or excuse now? maybe they cant read or understand so actually the reading teachers are at fault for the poor behavior.
rocketjsquirrel
9:19 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
No. It just isn't the school's responsibility to decide what is acceptable behavior off school grounds, at non-school events.
Former Valley Gal
9:31 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Actually, @rocketjsquirrel, according to the state's shiny new HIB (Harrassment Intimidation Bullying) laws, it is.
Dory Degen
9:28 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Let's simplify this for those who are having trouble......
9 on 2 and leaving them unconscious in the street- wrong.
Not giving kids a time out when the've acted badly- wrong.
Encouraging same kids to act defiantly at a BOE meeting instead - wrong.
Bragging about what you got away with on a public internet forum - wrong.
Being disrespectful to an adult - wrong.
Recklessly thrusting an object close to someone's face and setting it off - wrong.
Kitty Kat
9:38 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
ditto
Karen Lavandowski
11:54 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
dory sounds like you were there!!!!!!!!!!!! ur going to be so embarrassed when the truth comes out ...wasnt 9 on 2 YOUR WRONG Giving kids a time out LMAOOOOOOO maybe when they were 2 ......your a messsssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!! find a hobbie!!!!!!
Dory Degen
10:16 am on Sunday, November 27, 2011
no karen i wasn't there. but someone's nephew was.
irapasses
9:33 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
dory - were you there? did you actually witness all of these things because if you didnt then they did NOT happen.. kinda like the "if a tree falls in the woods....."
Dory Degen
9:47 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
right!
Willy
11:19 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Um... But these two fallen trees where found by the police and one couldn't stand back up because it was beaten SOOOO bad... 2 ambulances had to be called and the trees had to be brought to an emergency room.... I hate this... 2 kids ended up in the the hospital,,,oh... Thats a good defense. We where driving in our SUV and saw trees fall on the 2 kids because if the snow, we all got out and kicked the trees to get them off the kids.. We must have accidentally kicked them... Sorry... Remember DUKE, and the Salem witch hunts!!!
John Q Public
9:52 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
If the police charged the kids then they should be suspended until the matter is cleared up legally. Period. No preferential treatment for any reason, sports or otherwise. The statement made by Coach Olsen that their Friday night was taken away from them is reflective of a self important attitude. Please Coach, help raise good people and make that more important than being a good athlete. Make them learn the responsibility for their actions at all times in all places.
Kitty Kat
10:05 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
well said
Joe videodummy
11:04 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Problem is that students have rights. One of them them is a right to a fair and unbias trial. They have a right to an attorney, and the right to call witnesses. They have a right to face their accuser's in a court of law.
These "little things" stand in the way of throwing a student out the door and forgetting about them.
What your suggesting is called "Civil War". We've made a few changes since then, maybe you haven't heard about them.
irapasses
11:22 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Since when do students have rights? Witnesses? What the heck are you talking about? So now every infraction has to have a trial? Students have almost no rights when it comes to school discipline and extra-curricular activities. So if my son gets suspended for cutting class or cheating on a test he will have a trial with witnesses in school?? Do you even listen to yourself?
Joe videodummy
12:31 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
You answered your own question. You got caught-not accused. If someone said you cut class, and you can prove them wrong- you don't get suspended without a chance of being able to. If your cheating and get caught...I won't answer that.
Why cheat anyway, organise your time to study. Let's put it this way, the money you can earn in education (for tuiton) is like twice or three times the amount an athlete can earn, unless they are an exception in their sport. Most athletes will enter college wishing they were smarter or scored higher on their SAT. Many will get some money for athletics on top of academics money, but academics is what's important. Many top schools could care less about sports. Sure, they want athlete's to participate in their programs, but their not making any offers like "free rides" so don't go away believing it. The reality is: start with a 1500 SAT score as a base, and go from there. Forget about the SA portion of the SAT as part of your score ( they don't count it ) and start studying for your SAT's now...tonite, instead of posting on this thing. Forget about anything that doesn't mean anything and just study. Make friends with your guidance department, and put all of effort in your studies, your class work, and your homework. You won't regret it when you start looking for a college. You can verbal after 9/01 of your senior year, and sign after 11/01. This is my advice. Take it or leave it.
K
5:31 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Everyone has rights. This is America. However, the boe is supposed to review suspensions from school as being able to attend school is a right. Playing in a game is a privilege, BOE shouldn't have weighed in here. Don't you think part of the defense in the legal case will be that Wayne's elected BOE concluded that there was no concern? I agree with John Q Public- pull the kids from school, allow them to be home schooled until the legal system resolves this. Wayne is allowing an unsafe environment by having accused felons in the school. This is a huge liability on the town because if something else happens with these kids, there would be a lawsuit and I know I pay enough taxes already. Who knows, this teacher may sue and win money over it- who do you think is going to pay her? Not the parents of the 9, it will be Wayne residents.
Willy
11:23 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
At the end if the day ladies and gentelmen... The charges Are aggravated assault!!! The fact that the school and the BOE of Ed isn't going after the kids, dosnt mean the 2 kids parents are not... They have the DA working for them... There's no fees for that...but the 9 have there lawyers already!!! Arrgaravted assault stays on your record till the end boys !! Every college and future employer will see it when they do a background check!!! I hope it stays in the news for we can all see it.. Plus don't forget the physical damages...
Karen Lavandowski
11:56 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
willy when the truth comes out ...and the guys are cleared the charges will too ...good night
Willy
11:39 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Ok.. Lets turn this around... a teacher blows an air horn in a students face - inches away... the student goes home tells the parents his vison is blurry and said a teacher blew and air horn in my face... CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT THE PARENTS WOULD DO? Demand a Suspension of the teacher! Call the BOE! Call The Principal... What happens here... NOTHING -This principal is a joke -
Karen Lavandowski
11:58 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
WHEN ITS CALLED AN ACCIDENT LOSER ......NOTHING HAPPENS
irapasses
1:11 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
another "no comment' from whhs principal..of course. maybe he is a mute
Phil
1:14 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1289848115001/teen-football-players-charged-with-assault-allowed-to-play
still in town 78
2:51 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Ira I do agree with you they aren't 100% totally innocent. No one in this entire town who has anything to say about this whole situation is innocent including the media But. As of right now while I'am replying to you the thing that you can say that any Wayne hills football player is most guilty of right now is just that playing football for Wayne hills... if it was any other group of students that allegedly did this the whole thing would have been over by now! Can any of you at least admit to that????
K
5:34 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
If it were any other group of students, they would have been suspended from school.
irapasses
10:55 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
i agree with you. if this was any other group of students the whole thing would be over because the administration would have punished them in some way. In this case there has been ZERO punishment. The victims are more on trial then the accused. Why hasnt anybosy stepped up?
OLSEN thats why,
Phil
3:25 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Driving oneself to a hospital is not unusual, although not prudent.
My question is: why Chilton when St. Joseph's Wayne Hospital is much
closer to Wayne Hills High School?
Former Valley Gal
9:12 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Perhaps a matter of preference? I know I lived closer to Wayne General, but preferred to go to Chilton myself. If the teacher felt it was not a matter of life and death, she most like chose to go to the hospital of her choice.
Michelle
9:56 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
On North Jersey news site it says she was treated by the school nurse then went home then her husband took her to hospital. Maybe that's why she chose Chilton.
Wayne EyeDoc
3:00 am on Thursday, November 24, 2011
Phil, that's a good question, considering that St. Joe's ophthalmologists can beat up Chilton's ophthalmologists.
still in town 78
6:06 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
That I know chilton is the township non life threatening care center. So in other words unless your critical you go to chilton. But I agree with Phil that is taking a risk driving your self to the hospital. If the teacher gets into an accident who's insurance pays for the damages? Even if someone decided that an ambulance was not needed someone from administered should have drove them.
Al Scala
7:08 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
This should be handled under workers compensation insurance, provided by the BOE. Interesting is that the workers compensation insurer can go after the responsible party.(Subrogation) Danny Lane is 18, no longer considered a minor. This may not be covered under the Lane's homeowner insurance policy as it can be considered an intentional act. The teacher also has the right to civilly sue Danny Lane as well. I'll tell you this. If I was Danny Lane, Andrew Monaghan, or any others that were charged, my parents would have handled this in a manner that there would be no need for the BOE or Coach Olsen to get involved. I would have been grounded for LIFE. No football, no nothing. My father and mother were the judge and jury. There was no DUE PROCESS in my home. Maybe our adult school should start offering PARENTING 101. Looks like some of our parents in this town need it!
Michelle
9:56 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
AMEN!
PainterMan
7:26 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Agreed Wayne Res- and that is why the teacher probably went to Chilton- that is most likely where the district's Workman's Comp is covered- duh! How ridiculous, but not surprising to question the victim! This is exactly what is being taught to children- don't take responsibility for your actions- become your own lawyer, question everyone.
More national attention, or is this like Fox News, biased? http://www.forbes.com/sites/bobcook/2011/11/22/greg-olsens-dad-knows-how-to-show-his-football-program-is-bigger-than-its-high-school/
Frank
7:45 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Thank God this is getting national attention! This is the only way that the overwhelming majority of WAYNE residents can have their voices heard.
Looks like the arrogant Mr. Olsen's past transgressions and current actions will finally have a consequence.
Kitty Kat
7:59 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
I agree. I'm an embarrassed Wayne resident. This was horrificly handled from the get go by the boys, parents, coach, super, & boe.
Al Scala
8:02 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
"Classless winner and lousy loser" Interesting how one writer identified Chris Olsen. Maybe we should bring in Joe Clark as our new superintendent who allegedly fired Olsen whan at Eastside, he refused to bench his players for cutting class or being disrespectful to teachers..
Al Scala
8:07 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
I agree with K above. If this were a group of non atheletes, they would probably be given the electric chair by our BOE trustees The fact that they are FOOTBALL players, and CHRIS OLSEN is the head coach, the rules are different. Well, so much for our highly and effective Board of Ed.
Albert
8:14 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Three of the BOE members will be up for re-election in 2012. Lets see how many people remember this come elections. My guess is that as each of them is up for re-election, they will be replaced. I hope that during re-election time, their opponents bring these issues up.
Al Scala
8:21 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Albert....totally agree. I'll go one step farther. They all should be removed. Their actions, indecisiveness, flip flopping, etc., etc., should not be tolerated. Trustees like Kingston, Ceberio, Stinziale, Pavlak, etal should be removed when they stand for re=election as well.
Former Valley Gal
9:15 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Amen. While I personally no longer live in Wayne, many members of my family do, and you can be darn sure that they will not be voting for incumbent BOE members when the next election comes up in several months! (If I still lived there, I'd be voting the same along with them!)
still in town 78
8:38 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
I am not in any way blaming the teacher. She was doing her job but I just don't understand why she would drive her self and the administration would let her? That's a poor decision on everyone's part! I understand the eye injury would be a worker's comp claim but what would happen if she crashed? Who would pay for those damages? What would happen if somebody was injured in the hypothetical car accident?
Dory Degen
9:08 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
still in town 78
still don't get it 11
Former Valley Gal
9:19 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
People do silly things in the heat of the moment. I'm sure we're all guilty of that, as I know I am. Perhaps she felt she was adequate to drive? Regardless, its moot to play the hypothetical game as she made it from point A to B fine, and did NOT get into an accident.
Did she make the safe choice at the time? Likely no, but its really no reason to start victim blaming here.
(Really, we're about a breadth away from people posting "Look at how she was dressed, she was asking for it!" on these forums...)
Michelle
10:00 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
North Jersey news reports Northjersey.com :
"Cangialosi told police that the vision in her right eye went blurry after the horn was sounded. She was treated by the school nurse, drove home to meet her husband and then went to Chilton Occupational Health in Pequannock."
Dory Degen
9:09 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
btw....Forbes editorial. awesome!....
http://www.forbes.com/sites/bobcook/2011/11/22/greg-olsens-dad-knows-how-to-show-his-football-program-is-bigger-than-its-high-school/
Concerned Citizen
9:20 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
What a sorry state of affairs for our community. We as citizens rely on our elected officials to do the the right thing but our school board has failed miserably. Have they considered the victims in this issue? How is it that the miscreants have been given such wide latitude ie. the benefit of closed door hearings? When will the voices of the victims be heard? Beginning with the beating of these 2 students, no one stepped up and did the right thing. Whoever was present at the beating, whether it was 9 or 6, did anyone step up and say it was wrong? Did Coach Olsen do the right thing when he was informed of the involvement of his players in an altercation? Could he not have benched his players? Our athletes and coaches should be role models and yet they stood by and did nothing. The BOE continues this travesty by looking the other way - when will someone stop this circus and DO THE RIGHT THING? Maybe they can start by immediately dismissing Coach Olsen. That is little solace for the victims but maybe it would prove to our community that someone cares enough to do the right thing.
PainterMan
9:40 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
WH teachers have signed a letter expressing their disapproval in the lack of leadership in their building administration.
Albert
9:43 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
PainterMan, is that a rumor, or do you know that as a fact. I would think it would be great if they did, and the whole town will stand behond them, except for the parents of the football players. My question is, if it is true, will Olsen get all the teachers that signed it fired?
Kitty Kat
9:52 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Hope this is true. Every school in wayne should do the same. Where can I sign?
Former Valley Gal
10:44 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Good for them if this is true. The lack of discipline on the part of the administration is deplorable.
Al Scala
10:00 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
If this is true, and I hope it is, I applaud the Wayne Hills teachers, for standing up and taking a stand on the deplorable course of events that have occurred over the last month or so. Thank you for having the guts to stand up to our gutless and ineffective administrators.
eyes wide shut
10:55 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
@ Former Valley Gal: YOU are right it is deplorable. Having a relative on the Paterson Police Dept. He finds it deplorable that a Wayne School is getting so much more NEGATIVE press than inner city schools now. Is it the students or is it the administration?
Former Valley Gal
11:35 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
At this point, I would say its the administration. Young people will always do "dumb" things, its part of growing up. It's the administration's responsibility to uphold the code of discipline, which it has been very lax with in this case, on many levels and accounts, sadly.
Bob
11:03 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
The BOE has always given Olsen whatever he wants in the name of a win, and have always been able to sweep the things they don"t like under the carpet. But it looks like this time none of them are going to get away with it because there are to many people watching. The time has come to clean out the system once and for all!! I agree with Wayne resident, they are all a bunch of gutless ineffective administrators running our schools and this Board is nothing short of one BIG JOKE!!! Get rid of all of them!!
stewart resmer
11:17 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Every news outlet has reported on this including TV, there is no unringing the bell this time around.
irapasses
11:28 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
there is some much more to come out regarding olsen. many many people have stories to tell but no outlet. how do they get organized? has nike been contacted yet regarding their sponsorship?
Frank
11:44 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS ARTICLE!!!
http://www.positivecoach.org/our-story/pca-in-the-news/news-detail/40/pca-on-joe-paterno?utm_source=h5m&utm_medium=e&utm_campaign=mom
Dory Degen
12:06 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
unfortunately theres the rub....coach olsen REALLY believes he is doing the right thing.
John Wayne
11:47 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Ira - people can organize complaints to www.njsiaa.com
John Wayne
11:49 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
I read in FORBES comment that hornblower Lane was allowed to play friday night, suspended for one day after game was over, and will be dressed for dec. 3
irapasses
12:49 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
are you surprised?
Phil
11:50 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Olsen MUST BE FIRED FOR MORAL INTERPITUDE....THE BOE MUST BE IMPEACHED....PAVLAK MUST STEP DOWN...CONFLICT OF INTEREST...THE LIST GOES ON
Frank
11:58 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
This article should be sent to every single student, parent, school administrator, faculty, local Government offical, law enforcement officals and it should be enlarged and printed in bold letters at Wayne Hills High. THIS SHOULD BE REQUIRED READING!
http://www.positivecoach.org/our-story/pca-in-the-news/news-detail/40/pca-on-joe-paterno?utm_source=h5m&utm_medium=e&utm_campaign=mom
JESUS
11:59 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
JESUS
6:49pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
he's awesome...u can sleep in his class and still get an A+
vic dipasquale( gym teacher punches somebody on school grounds) becouse someone was doing a skit of him entertaining girls in his gym office. he could not handle the skit this punching the student - it on tape- you tube
he lose coackhing girls soccer/ vollyball /baseball jobs the now nave him teaching in eastbrook 5thru 8graders( wheres child welfare dept.) and he got cought stealing school fund from carwashs he had about every weeking(built adition on his/sister house with money) he a convicterd felon still teching gym. talk about the state lawa protecting our students
meanwhile janis dime (superintendent)got fired for hide information about tainted soill in paramus. (election year)
i think vic dipasquale should go get a teaching job at wayne hills so he can punch student / teachers esp. olsen (them to have a lot in common in coverups)
good work paramus board of education for keepinf vic in board hope he dous not punch another student - who cares look john corzine is still walking free he only stole at last count 600 billion from investers. whats fat boy/ da doinng in nj eating turkey counting the years till pension kicks in.
state welfate /abuse committe works good
lets hire obamas super committe - let them decide
JESUS
12:00 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
JESUS
6:49pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
he's awesome...u can sleep in his class and still get an A+
vic dipasquale( gym teacher punches somebody on school grounds) becouse someone was doing a skit of him entertaining girls in his gym office. he could not handle the skit this punching the student - it on tape- you tube
he lose coackhing girls soccer/ vollyball /baseball jobs the now nave him teaching in eastbrook 5thru 8graders( wheres child welfare dept.) and he got cought stealing school fund from carwashs he had about every weeking(built adition on his/sister house with money) he a convicterd felon still teching gym. talk about the state lawa protecting our students
meanwhile janis dime (superintendent)got fired for hide information about tainted soill in paramus. (election year)
i think vic dipasquale should go get a teaching job at wayne hills so he can punch student / teachers esp. olsen (them to have a lot in common in coverups)
good work paramus board of education for keepinf vic in board hope he dous not punch another student - who cares look john corzine is still walking free he only stole at last count 600 billion from investers. whats fat boy/ da doinng in nj eating turkey counting the years till pension kicks in.
state welfate /abuse committe works good
lets hire obamas super committe - let them decide
JESUS
12:01 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
JESUS
6:49pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
he's awesome...u can sleep in his class and still get an A+
vic dipasquale( gym teacher punches somebody on school grounds) becouse someone was doing a skit of him entertaining girls in his gym office. he could not handle the skit this punching the student - it on tape- you tube
he lose coackhing girls soccer/ vollyball /baseball jobs the now nave him teaching in eastbrook 5thru 8graders( wheres child welfare dept.) and he got cought stealing school fund from carwashs he had about every weeking(built adition on his/sister house with money) he a convicterd felon still teching gym. talk about the state lawa protecting our students
meanwhile janis dime (superintendent)got fired for hide information about tainted soill in paramus. (election year)
i think vic dipasquale should go get a teaching job at wayne hills so he can punch student / teachers esp. olsen (them to have a lot in common in coverups)
good work paramus board of education for keepinf vic in board hope he dous not punch another student - who cares look john corzine is still walking free he only stole at last count 600 billion from investers. whats fat boy/ da doinng in nj eating turkey counting the years till pension kicks in.
state welfate /abuse committe works good
lets hire obamas super dumb com vote
JESUS
12:01 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
JESUS
6:49pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
he's awesome...u can sleep in his class and still get an A+
vic dipasquale( gym teacher punches somebody on school grounds) becouse someone was doing a skit of him entertaining girls in his gym office. he could not handle the skit this punching the student - it on tape- you tube
he lose coackhing girls soccer/ vollyball /baseball jobs the now nave him teaching in eastbrook 5thru 8graders( wheres child welfare dept.) and he got cought stealing school fund from carwashs he had about every weeking(built adition on his/sister house with money) he a convicterd felon still teching gym. talk about the state lawa protecting our students
meanwhile janis dime (superintendent)got fired for hide information about tainted soill in paramus. (election year)
i think vic dipasquale should go get a teaching job at wayne hills so he can punch student / teachers esp. olsen (them to have a lot in common in coverups)
good work paramus board of education for keepinf vic in board hope he dous not punch another student - who cares look john corzine is still walking free he only stole at last count 600 billion from investers. whats fat boy/ da doinng in nj eating turkey counting the years till pension kicks in.
state welfate /abuse committe works good
lets hire obamas super committe
Dory Degen
12:07 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
um, are you ok?
still in town 78
12:04 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Where were all you people when a bunch of baseball players beat up a football player 10 years ago I didn't hear any outrage Then. It just makes me laugh how people are calling the football players thugs because its football. But no one wants to admit it goes both ways.. your all hypocrites!
Dory Degen
12:12 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
you clearly still don't get it. we are appalled at the way the adults are handling (not handling)the behavior of the children. nice that you think this is a laughing matter.
Sean Gilday
1:38 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Of course it goes both ways and i am sure that people were upset 10 years ago, it's a little silly to say you did not hear any outrage, 10 years ago i bet there was not this type of outlet for people to comment on.
still in town 78
3:37 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
If you would like we can meet in person and i can show you the scar on my backside from when in autoshop the baseball players put a nut that was heated red hot and put down my pants(Thats when I tried to stand up and say something but to no avail)! anyone wanna meet??
still in town 78
3:40 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
DONT talk about bullies I really dont wanna hear it!!!
George
12:17 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
still in town 78...I think you are making that story up or embelleshing it to suit your needs.
irapasses
12:52 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
still in town 78 ....even if that story was true (IT IS NOT TRUE) should be just allow this to continue to happen in our town because 10 years ago there was an incident that was handled wrong? Lets just turn our heads and ignore it? c'mon you are putting me on? do you truly believe the cr*p that you spout?
still in town 78
4:24 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
would you like to see my scars?
Oldenhay agroinmay
12:57 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Hey Wayne residents. Maybe a field trip to Matawan should be in order for your football players, BOE, administrators, and the beloved coach.
5 players suspended by the coach before a state game. Lordy, there is still sanity in NJ. You just have to go south of the Driscoll to find it.
http://www.nj.com/hssports/blog/football/index.ssf/2011/11/five_matawan_players_suspended_could_miss_state_sectional_final.html
Oldenhay agroinmay
1:09 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Does anyone remember from the Highlights magazines you find in pediatric offices the characters Goofus and Gallant? It would try to teach kids right from wrong. An example would show Goofus as leaving his plate and glass on the table when he finished eating and Gallant cleaning up after himself.
I would think that Coach Martucci from Matawan would be Gallant and.......maybe we should chip in for Highlights subscriptions to Coach Olsen and the football families of Wayne.
Sean Gilday
1:34 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
It is not a heroic act that the coach of Matawan has done he simply did the right thing. He realizes that the members of his team will get a better life lesson and are better by being held accountable for their actions. To go into a BOE meeting and bring lawyers and use a technicality saying "Some of these players were not present during the beating so they all must be allowed to play" is Lawyer mumbo jumbo and still does not address the fact that if you know 3 players were not present then you also know the rest were. Believe me Coach Olsen and the Parents of these kids know who participated and if they don't then that just means they have raise a bunch of liars.
Albert
1:56 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
That is a very unfair comparison. It is like apples and oranges. Apples: Matawan has rules; Oranges: Wayne Hills Football has NO rules. So basically they did not break any rules. Rules do not apply to the football program
Dory Degen
1:14 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Bravo Coach Martucci. Now thats a coach. Take notes Olsen.
TY Oldenhay, that lifted my spirits :)
Oldenhay agroinmay
1:52 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
You're welcome Dory Degen. And please call me Holden. Due to a little tete a tete with my local Patch editor (that actually rose to the regional Patch level) I had to change my screen name by channeling my pig latin roots.
Very sorry to hear about the woes in your community. I've read the assorted Patch articles, as well as those on NJ.com and I have yet to see the BOE policies and regulations referenced. I was just viewing them and will attach links shortly.
Dory Degen
3:13 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
othchagay!
Michael Fantau
1:39 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
What is happening in Wayne at present is very disturbing to me. I do not know all the facts in detail, however, current events in Wayne are giving the town a black eye, especially with all the newspaper coverage and the Fox News report. My thoughts:
1) A game can never be placed above anybody, any administrative body, bad behavior both on and off the playing fields, arenas, etc.
2) All people need to take full responsibility for their actions, whether good or bad, no excuses.
3) From what I am reading, Parents need to take a stronger role in the upbringing of their children and exercise discipline when appropriate, even if this costs the losing of a sporting event.
4) A coach in any sport can suspend players for bad behavior. You do not need the legal system for this.
5) In my opinion, a coach does bear some responsibility for the actions of his players both on and off the playing fields, ice rinks, etc.
6) I am sure a fair amount of the Hills football players have gone onto rewarding careers and are upstanding citizens. The same can be said about Penn State, however, we now see what greed has done for that program.
7) I would like to see thorough background checks before a hiring decision is made for any town position, this is commonplace in the private sector.
still in town 78
3:41 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
I agree with you mostly but they do background checks.
Michael
1:41 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
One thing is certain: if grownups didn't attach so much importance to a schoolboy's game, probably none of this would have happened.
Michael Fantau
1:42 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
8) I also feel that the entire Hills football team should not be thrown under the bus for the bad behavior of some of their team members.
I would like to see more emphasis placed on values such as respect, discipline, honor, character and sportsmanship. Maybe I am Naive and that is too much to ask for in this day.
Sean Gilday
1:48 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
The responsibility for this lies directly on the shoulders of The Football players that are responsible for this attack They have hurt Themselves, Their Families and Their teammates. Additional blame goes on the Coach, Parents and BOE that have shown little or poor leadership. I am absolutely sure that most of the kids on the Wayne Hills football team are good kids and they don't deserve to be lumped in with the kids that did this.
Sean Gilday
1:52 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
By the way, kids fight and do stupid things and sometimes make big mistakes in their life it is up to the role models in their life to correct them when they do wrong and when needed Tax them so that they grow up and learn the rules of society and life. A very important opportunity was missed here and if the coach had just taken control of this situation this would not have made national news.
Oldenhay agroinmay
1:55 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Link to Wayne BOE policies and regulations.
http://www.wayneschools.com/district/board_of_education/policies_and_regulations/
Oldenhay agroinmay
2:01 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
From Wayne BOE website - regulations on expectations of student conduct.
Note Page 1, Section B, numbers 1,2,4,5,6
Page 1 Section C number 1 (the reason for being in school)
Page 2 Section C numbers 4,5,6 (accepting and acknowledging consequences for their actions
http://www.wayneschools.com/district/board_of_education/policies_and_regulations/documents/District%20Regulation%20Pupil%20Conduct%205500.pdf
Oldenhay agroinmay
2:08 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
From pupil discipline/code of conduct regulations
Page 8 discusses detentions and suspensions. First one talks about defiance to a school employee and up to a 3 day suspension.
http://www.wayneschools.com/district/board_of_education/policies_and_regulations/documents/DistrictRegulationPupilDiscipline5600.PDF
Oldenhay agroinmay
2:13 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Wayne BOE policy on suspensions. Bottom of page one paragraphs 6 and 7 address assaults on other students (para 6) or teacher (para 7). Assault on teacher calls for immediate suspension pending an expulsion hearing.
http://www.wayneschools.com/district/board_of_education/policies_and_regulations/documents/District%20Policy%20Suspension%205610.pdf
still in town 78
3:43 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
where do you get assault from they said it was an accident that the airhorn went off.
Sean Gilday
4:07 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
It may have been an accident and maybe it's not assault but do you get that the teacher asked them both to hand it over and they refused and then this kid put it up to the teachers face? By the way have you ever used an air horn? They don't just go off, you need to put a good amount of pressure on the handle or button. The airborne incident by itself maybe is not that huge but it speaks to a pattern of behavior....
still in town 78
4:23 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
agreed!
Al Scala
6:49 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
In today's paper, the teacher had to ask Danny Lane three times for the air horn. Not once, not twice but three times. The third time, he pulls the airhorn from behind kis back and blows it in the teachers face. Firstly, isn't this insubordination? Secondly, is this kid a moron? So, as I post this Danny Lane is at the Wayne Hills Beefsteak at the highschool. I would love to be a fly on the wall to hear the talk of the evening. Oh, by the way, the menu is beefsteak, koolaid and broccoliroids.
John M
6:04 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Media does not give the news now it also makes the news. (Mrs Olsen, coach Olsen and the principal did not give the air horn to the kids or do I have to write a long letter for you dummies who just dont get it) If you dont think about the news that way then you probably still think Obama is a great president!
stewart resmer
6:23 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Actually? I think that Obama-Biden are great!
Obama has overhauled the food safety system
Advanced women's rights in the work place
Ended Don't Ask, Don't Tell (DADT) in our military
Stopped defending DOMA in court.
Passed the Hate Crimes bill.
Appointed two pro-choice women to the Supreme Court.
Expanded access to medical care and provided subsidies for people who can't afford it.
Expanded the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP)
Fixed the preexisting conditions travesty [and rescissions] in health insurance.
Invested in clean energy.
Overhauled the credit card industry, making it much more consumer-friendly.
While Dodd-Frank bill was weak in many respects, it was still an extremely worthwhile start at re-regulating the financial sector.
He created a Elizabeth Warren's dream agency: The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
He's done a lot for veterans
He got help for people whose health was injured during the clean-up after the 9/11 attacks.
None of these things were priorities for Republicans. They actively opposed, directly or indirectly through obstruction, every single item on this list.
Read more: http://shoqvalue.com/short-list-of-progressive-achievements-by-the-obama-administration#ixzz1eZbXdWr6
Sean Gilday
6:12 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
John M what are you referencing?
Dory Degen
8:23 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
who knows sean. can you imagine what john m's english teacher has to deal with when grading his papers? yikes!
Sean Gilday
8:26 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
lol Im pretty sure we are all crazy on here
Phil
4:17 am on Thursday, November 24, 2011
Chilton v St Joe's (NOT WAYNE GENERAL IN QUITE A FEW YEARS).
I agree St. Joe's Doctors can beat up Chilton doctors anytime anyhow.
Chilton is about the money honey
St Joe's is about the care dear
Rex miatke
11:32 am on Thursday, November 24, 2011
No Chilton is about the care and Saint Joes is about the money. I see Chilton Doctors beating Saint Joes doctors in a fight. My money is on Chilton. Go Chilton Beat Saint Joes.
Wayne EyeDoc
9:05 am on Thursday, November 24, 2011
Hey, I hope the Chilton doctors don't come to the St. Joe's holiday party and cause trouble. They should know how intense the rivalry can get between these cross- town foes. There won't be a BOE to protect them from a beat down in the streets.
Phil
9:38 am on Thursday, November 24, 2011
Cute
Phil
9:37 am on Thursday, November 24, 2011
Judge just refused 12 year olds (?) home after throwing shopping carts unto person....yet, the town of Wayne allows these THUGS to roam free and victimizes the victim...Insanity
Pad
11:22 am on Thursday, November 24, 2011
Now a football player blew an air horn into a teachers face after she told him to stop blowing it. He blew it in her face and she suffered an eye injury. This will of course lead to another lawsuit or the teacher being out on disability for her injury. This is what happens when we have a spineless BOE, Interim Superintendant and a gutless Mayor & Council who haven't said a word about all of this. Meanwhile our town is in the papers everyday and on the news. No one can understand how a Coach bullied the BOE and intimidated them to reverse the interims decision. Wayne Hills, the Coach and the students are getting all the bad publicity they deserve. If these players were benched none of this would be an issue at this point. Its disgusting how they have allowed a few individuals destroy a high schools reputation and that of the Township also. Where are you Mayor Vergano? You can come out from hiding and face the facts that the BOE and its former members who are now on the Townships governing body are destroying this town. Elections will come soon and you will all be voted out if the taxpayers have any common sense.
Phil
11:27 am on Thursday, November 24, 2011
There go the property values
Into the sewer where they belong
God Bless Vergano and Rumana, the Heroes of this Insanity
Seriously, I wish the families of the Victims a Happy Thanksgiving in spite
of everything
We have your back
Mario
10:57 am on Friday, November 25, 2011
The individuals involved with this unfortunate he fight really know the truth. And rumors fly around town by people who assume or come to their own conclusion they are already persecuting the people involved and their families.The truth will come forward. The people of Wayne Township are divided Wayne "Hills side" and the "Valley side" of town this is not only absurd it's twisted.
Do we not all live in the same township? The Wayne Police Dept. and Mayor are doing everything to get to the bottom of this misfortunate mishap. Tensions are high people demanding for results and yelling for justice..it isn't making it easier for the police to do what's right. I can certainly understand the frustration of this dilemma.
Accountability will prevail on those individuals that are guilty we must let the judiciary system work. Innocent until proven guilty it's the way it works. One may voice an opinion, however, without proclaiming an already guilty verdict. It's not the way it works. The parents on both sides they must be distraught. I know I would be.They have a right to protect their families. As for the News Papers I must say that they are looking at the Wayne School system with a magnify glass.They're just looking for a good juicy story so they can sell their papers and they don't care who they walk on to get headline news. There are perhaps only of few decent reporters that want the truth to the story.
still in town 78
11:33 am on Friday, November 25, 2011
Thank you another voice of reason. Now everyone commenting on here will automatically claim you have no idea what your talking about and label you a "kool aid drinker!" whatever that is!
irapasses
12:57 pm on Friday, November 25, 2011
many on the "hills" side of town are appalled, embarrassed and sickened. this is not a hills v valley thing. it is right v wrong? if the 2 victime were from ramapo do you really think anyone's opinion would change?
stephen p.
1:23 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
im a kid from wayne and i KNOW. what happenned that night. the hills kids were in the wrong, point blank. i went to hills and actually had mrs cangialosi as a teacher. shes an amazing woman, teacher, and person and did not deserve the disrespect and absolute nonsense that went on that day. the kids are in the wrong. once again. its cut and dry. there is no debating. all of you "adults" sometimes look like the youngest of children. now come attack me for saying that but thats only because you find it true, i dont care enough to even check back on responses, but im sure you guys will. enjoy people!!!