Rivers will be De-snagged, Cleaned to Alleviate Flooding
Officials want reservoir water levels lowered.
Parts of the Pompton and Ramapo Rivers will be de-snagged and cleaned in an effort to alleviate flooding in town.
Department of Public Works (DPW) personnel will remove downed and leaning trees and debris from the flow channels of the rivers beginning at Pompton Plains Crossroads to the crossing of Hamburg Turnpike, said George Holzapfel, the town’s DPW director.
The initial work will be to alleviate flooding behind properties on Shore Road, one of the worst flooded areas in town.
Debris has substantially blocked two flow channels in that area. DPW workers will access the area at the intersection of North and Shore Roads.
Mayor Chris Vergano said at a council meeting Wednesday that trees to the south along the channels will be brought to the intersection. Tree trucks, stumps, and other large debris will be loaded onto dump trucks and smaller debris will be turned into wood chips at the intersection.
Work is scheduled to begin Monday, Jan. 23.
The state Department of Environmental Protection had issued a $350,000 grant to Wayne, Pompton Lakes, Pequannock, and Riverdale to de-snag the rivers. One of the four municipalities was to be the lead agency and would publically bid and manage the project, but Vergano said that plan has taken too long. Officials decided it would be best if the town took its portion of the grant, $80,000, and handled its part of the project independently. Pompton Lakes will do the same.
The $80,000 will be used to cover the cost of manpower, renting the necessary equipment, and disposal fees.
The town applied for the grant in October.
In the aftermath of Hurricane Irene, several residents affected by the floods complained that it has been years since local rivers, especially the Pompton, had been de-snagged or dredged.
“The de-snagging of tree limbs and other debris does contribute to letting the water flow more freely,” Sandy Galacio, director of the township’s office of emergency management and homeland security said in October. “The more quickly the water can move through the area, the more water the river system can hold.”
In a report to Governor Christie issued last January, the Passaic River Basin Flood Advisory Committee recommended that “routine” dredging of the rivers.
Offiicials want reservoirs lowered
The Town Council approved an ordinance Wednesday night calling for the lowering of the Wanaque Reservoir system.
Councilman Alan Purcell, who represents the First Ward, sponsored the ordinance. Historically, the First Ward is the most heavily flooded area in the township, including the Mountainview section of town.
“We’re expecting heavy rains this year, and we can lower the other reservoirs at least 20 percent without harming water levels in a draught case scenario,” Purcell said.
The resolution requests that Governor Christie direct the owners of the reservoir system to release as much water as is practicable from the reservoir systems under their control, including dumping enough water to return the water level to normal.
The township wants: a comprehensive Water Management Plan established that includes a flood control plan, a program from the Federal Emergency Management Agency to remove obstructions from rivers, and that the state issue the appropriate permits to conduct the necessary work.
Though he voted in favor of the resolution, At-Large Councilman Joseph Schweighardt, questioned whether the resolution would bring about a draught in the case that it didn’t rain for a while.
“I think the resolution makes sense, because we’re probably going to have full reservoirs in the near future, but I’m concerned with when the reservoirs aren’t near full and we don’t have rain for a long period of time,” Schweighardt said.
Purcell assured him that the greater concern is the safety of the town.
“As long as our grass is as green as it should be, it’s our job to save these people of their losses,” Purcell said. “People’s lives and homes should be a primary concern before how much we have to water our grass.”
He emphasized that the resolution will benefit surrounding towns that have been hit heavily as well.
“It’s not only Wayne, it’s a lot of towns involved in more than one county,” Purcell said.
Rob Burke
3:33 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
Was pequannock the lead agency that had control over the bidding process for all of the money until Wayne pulled its eighty grand out?
Squeakyfoot
3:43 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
A major effort from the state and Federal Government should include building a wall along the river around the Soil Depot, eliminating the possibility of the contaminated soil flowing into the river. A fence should also be constructed on the property along Pompton Cross-road. Just below the Feeder Dam the river should be dredged, pulling out the sediment that flowed into it during the past 12 years. The costs should then be slapped onto the soil depot property owners along with a negligence law suit.
As Purcell stated "Peoples lives and homes should be our primary concern" but forgot to mention the "importance of their health", and that should also be considered.
The soil is contaminated, why are we letting it flow into the river ?
Sandy Fantau
3:48 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
Yes Rob. Taken from the north jersey news
Pequannock, Pompton Lakes, Riverdale and Wayne were to split a $350,000 state grant awarded to the communities.
The money was intended to pay for the removal of about 350 trees in the Pequannock, Wanaque, Ramapo and Pompton rivers.
"This plan is taking too long," Vergano said at the meeting. "We have now decided to act on our own," he said about the de-snagging and clearing effort for parts of the Pompton and Ramapo rivers along the border of Wayne Township."
Pequannock was designated the lead town in the effort.
Pequannock Mayor Richard Phelan said that Wayne's decision to go its own way could signal a lack of cooperation between the towns and perhaps jeopardize future grants.
"If we can't show the state that we can work together on a $350,000 project, how can we expect them to give us more money?" Phelan said.
Rob Burke
3:51 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
Too bad the four towns aren't gonna manage this together. They'd probably be able to leverage all kinds of efficiencies and get things done faster and cheaper. And even get more things done than separate efforts. No doubt that duplicative expenses could be eliminated and I bet bids for a larger project become more cost effective than four bids for four smaller projects.
Sandy Fantau
4:21 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
CLIFFVIEW PILOT BROKE THE STORY: The state DEP would establish mandatory water levels for flood-prone reservoirs, such as those in Oradell and Woodcliff Lake, and the Office of Emergency Management could order those levels lowered during severe weather conditions, under a bi-partisan bill submitted to the Legislature.
NJ Assembly members Connie Wagner, Bob Schroeder
The bill co-sponsored by Schroeder and Wagner notes that flooding “may result in loss of life, damage to property, and unsanitary conditions, all of which are detrimental to the health, safety, and welfare of the residents of lands in the area threatened by the flooding.”
It contends that repeated flooding this year in areas such as Westwood and Hillsdale “may have been caused or exacerbated by high reservoir levels.”
As a result, it “is therefore in the public interest to minimize and prevent the loss of life and property, disruption of commerce, and impairment of the tax base by ensuring that reservoirs are kept at levels satisfactory for the public water supply but protective of the public from the dangers and losses attributed to flooding,” the measure says.
For each flood-prone reservoir that’s identified, the state Department of Environmental Protection should “study and assess the downstream river or stream capacity and the water storage capacity of the reservoir,” it says.
Sandy Fantau
4:21 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
What’s more, the bill directs the DEP to establish mandatory water levels for each of those reservoirs: “The maximum level for each reservoir shall be set at a level that best protects the area surrounding the reservoir against flooding while ensuring the availability of an adequate water supply for the area served by the reservoir.”
Before that can happen, the DEP would have to hold public hearings in at least three of the affected municipalities, and any others that request them, under the proposal. If the regulations are approved, United Water and the other utilities would have 90 days to comply, it says.
Each utility would have to submit a “flood action plan” to the DEP that must “include, but need not be limited to, the design, construction, operation, and maintenance of flood gates sited at the reservoir.”
The Office of Emergency Management, a Division of the New Jersey State Police, “may order the water level of any reservoir in the State to be lowered, in a manner prescribed by the office, prior to or during a severe weather event if such action is determined by the office, after consultation with the department, to be in the general public interest and reasonably necessary to prevent or reduce the severity of flooding,” under the proposal.
Sandy Fantau
4:42 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
I would hope all towns effected by the Pompton Floodgates would get behind this bill. I also believe that the Wanaque Reservoir should be included. I would hope we learned from our experiences, we can no longer afford to sit on our laurels, but need to be proactive in finding a solution to this chronic problem that will continue to worsen.
Raymond Vena
12:55 am on Saturday, January 21, 2012
I hear no comments on the Passaic River desnagging ,etc, to twin bridges and below, how come?
Real Truth
9:08 am on Saturday, January 21, 2012
Youre right Sandy, Purcells resolution is supporting getting behind the bill, and Squeakyfoot I read Purcells comment about lives as meaning their health. Rob by Wayne doing it on their own it WILL be done Faster and cheaperyou would have been complaining its taking too long since the project was supposed to have started last July.But no matter which way they go you would always find fault, you would never admit they are doing good, but thats just you and we realize that. Raymond by wayne doing the project in house more of the river might be done for the $80,000.00 than having a contractor do it.
Squeakyfoot
1:56 pm on Saturday, January 21, 2012
Sorry Real Truth
I was a strong proponent of all towns affected by the flooding working together. I'm a strong proponent of de snagging the river, and a strong proponent of re aligning the course by eliminating some of the zig-zag issues. It's all good.
I don't support grabbing a hand full of cash and breaking away from the group even if it's for a "quik-fix" because we need the rest of the group to work together on the larger ones.
Keep in mind that Wayne Township put the eddy (willowbrook) in the middle of the river in 1967. For that, we will always be the black sheep of the family, and this recent cash grab is just another insult dotting the long list of "other" insults.
Rob Burke
9:16 am on Saturday, January 21, 2012
@RealTruth -- I didn't find fault with the town at all in my post. Not sure why you're accusing me of launching a disparaging attack. I haven't, and I'm not. I simply wrote that its too bad that the four individual projects won't get the benefits of economies of scale that one would expect to achieve were they consolidated. Perhaps you were reacting to the Pequannock Mayor's comment and mistaking it for mine?
Sandy Fantau
1:02 pm on Saturday, January 21, 2012
Ray you might want to read this report.
http://www.nj.gov/dep/passaicriver/docs/passaic-report201101.pdf
stewart resmer
1:15 pm on Saturday, January 21, 2012
as far as I am concerned, the township coulda woulda shoulda done far more to remediate the problem long before it did so much damage! I mean seriously, how many times did rt 23 and the willowbrook mall have to flood for some one in gvt to notice? unreal...
Rob Burke
2:30 pm on Saturday, January 21, 2012
hey stewart! i think a lot of folks appreciate your input over the past year. at least that's my impression, and i hope things are going better for you given the recent events. i don't necessarily think that its fair to blame the town all the flooding issues. the truth is that the mall was built a long time ago and people other than the current administration were involved with that. so there is a degree to which the current folks inherited a bad situation. that said, no one would argue that the flooding remains a very important problem. and i think everyone would like to see it addressed from the bottom up (like dredging & tree removal) and from the top down (perhaps a flood tunnel?)
stewart resmer
4:55 pm on Saturday, January 21, 2012
Ron, the Passaic Glacier has left its mark upon this region for eons now, every successive gvt authority tasked with development regulation has a hand in the disaster that our friends and neighbors have suffered due to the abject lack of vision.
The notion that year after year this township has done nothing to mitigate these conditions is reprehensible.The time has come to address the historical shortcomings and that lands at the door step of this council.
And so far as I can tell, the townships only motivation is to 'get money' from FEMA and then do nothing with that money that affects any change what so ever and that is not good enough.
So far as the tunnel goes? then what create a lake some where else, quench NYC's need for water?
Hows about a regional basin that links with a national aqueduct that serves the parched parts of the nation, or is that too progressive or frighteningly large for a small minded community to embrace?
So far as the 'recent events'? Stay tuned.
Sandy Fantau
5:14 pm on Saturday, January 21, 2012
I agree Stewart, it is time for government at all levels to take responsibility for their lack of judgement. We should start with the Army Corps of Engineers who never did a study on how the floodgates would impact the lower Passaic River Basin. For my neighborhood they have had a major impact.
*Major Flood Stage (MFS): 14.5 ft *Moderate Flood Stage (mfs): 13.5 ft
*Flood Stage (FS): 11.5 ft *Action Stage (AS): 10 ft
2011
1. September 8, 2011 - 14.33 ft (mfs)
2. August 29, 2011 22.62 ft (MFS) South & Lake Road
3. April 17, 2011 - 14.80 ft (MFS)
4. March 11, 2011 - 16.72 ft (MFS) Lake Road
5. March 7, 2001 - 15.83 ft (MFS)
2010
1. March 31, 2010 - 11.12 ft (FS)
2. March 14, 2010 - 18.05 ft (MFS) South and lake Road
2008
1. December 12, 2008 - 11.03 ft (FS)
2007
1. December 24, 2007 - 13.02 ft (FS)
2. April 16, 2007 - 16.99 ft (MFS) Lake Road
2005
1. October 13, 2005 - 13.66 ft (mfs)
2. April 3, 2005 - 14.22 (mfs)
3. March 29, 2005 - 10.58 ft on (AS)
1984
1. April 5, 1984 - 21.60 ft (MFS) South and Lake Road
John Davies
3:52 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
I know he makes me laugh! Then again, so do you.
Sandy Fantau
2:04 pm on Saturday, January 21, 2012
Ray this might be better for the Passais river
http://csam.montclair.edu/pri/conferences/2nd-PASSAIC-RIVER-SYPOSIUM-book.pdf
Sandy Fantau
4:41 pm on Saturday, January 21, 2012
Some interesting river facts. Taken from the National Weather Service
The following are the river crests for 1984, where the 3 rivers join above the Pompton Feeder Dam at Jackson Ave. , Wayne.
Wanaque River 10.82 ft
Pequannock River 8.90 ft (below the floodgates)
Ramapo River 21.60 ft
The crests for 2011
Wanaque River 7.88 ft (the river was 2.94 ft lower than in 1984)
Pequannock River 7.76 ft (the river was 1.14 ft lower than in 1984)
Ramapo River 22.62 ft (the river was 1.02 ft higher than in 1984; below the floodgates)
The next gage is the Pompton River at Pompton Plains. (Jackson Ave., Wayne at the top of the dam)
In 1984 the gage read 24.47 feet.
In 2011 the gage read 25.24 feet. That is .77 feet higher. The Wanaque and Pequannock River where 4.08 feet lower.
The Pompton Floodgates are 18 feet tall by 35 feet wide X 2. In 2011 the floodgates opened a total of 14 feet. For every 3 inches the gates open the release about 250 cfs of water. To help visualize the amount of water released when the floodgates are opened 14 feet. Just imagine your average 3 bedroom ranch filled with water going through the gates ever second.
I would hate to see what the Passaic River Basin will look like when all 3 rivers crest at historical heights.
George
9:36 am on Sunday, January 22, 2012
I don't understand how this will work with Watne splitting off. For example the Pompton River which forms a boundary between Wayne and Pompton Plans/Pequannock, is Wayne only going to desnag the shoreline on its side of the river, and what happensif the blockage is in the center of the rivers. Who is going to remove it. Seems Mayor Vergano got a little jumpy hear and it owuld better a better served project managed jointly. Also my math $350K divided by 4 equals $87,500, not $80K...also managing together means the money and time will be spent where it is needed the most. Also, if this grant is for desnagging the Pompton and Ramapo Rivers, I would expect that much more than 25% of this water flows through Wayne Township, as compared to let's say Riverdale . So Riverdale will have the same amount of money as Wayne for a much shorter distance and will be able to cleanup up much better than Wayne. So now in theory the water will flow quicker out of Riverdale and into Wayne. Nice thinking Mayor V
Sandy Fantau
11:03 am on Sunday, January 22, 2012
The problem with de-snagging is like putting a band-aid on a ruptured blood vessel. Albeit, it is a first step in what should be a much more comprehensive approach to mitigating the flooding problem. Our local officials should be lobbying the Federal Government for funding to include other needed projects. These to include, creating run off basins, dredging the rivers to handle more water, reassessing the operation of the Pompton Flood Gates, evaluating the effectiveness of all Dams downstream, etc.. The POMPTON FLOODGATES where a part of the tunnel project. The proposed plan included dredging the river to the tunnel, to accommodate the increase volume from the Floodgates. The ARMY CORPS project with the floodgates may have had good intentions, however, it has created a Chronic flooding problem. It's time for GOVERNMENT on all levels to take ownership of the problem and start taking corrective action.
Don Leich
5:38 pm on Sunday, January 22, 2012
Sandy -- we just don't know what the impact the flood gates have on flooding in the area, or how much can be attributed to development in Oakland, and in Mahwah, and Pompton Lakes, and Riverdale which now has a WalMart, and a Home Depot, and a Lowes, and a Target, and multiple condos where there used to be trees. De-snagging is good and should be done as soon as possible. My personal intuition says that the flood gates could possible be manipulated to proactively manage the volume a water much better that it has been.
There's another issue with the flood gates. Pompton Lake has serious mercury contamination. I attended the EPA hearing in Pompton Lakes on Jan 5th where the EPA was taking public comments on DuPont's latest "clean-up" plan. They propose to dredge a 26 area portion of the lake at the Acid Brook delta -- about one tenth of the area of the entire lake. High levels of mercury and lead have been identified in this area, but these are not the only areas of contamination. Other hot spots have been identified. Some near the Wayne shore of Pompton Lake. This is not addressed in the current clean-up plan.
There was no indication in any of the DuPont/DEP/EPA materials that they had considered the effect of turbulent flood waters disturbing contamination from where is has settled. And those flood gates open from the bottom where the heavy metals settle. Who's looking at this issue?
Rob Burke
6:58 pm on Sunday, January 22, 2012
Does the tainted water affect the local potable water supply?
Sandy Fantau
9:58 am on Monday, January 23, 2012
I believe that the Passaic Valley Water Commission stopped testing the water for drinking in 1999 at Pompton Lakes. I believe now the pump station is only used to let water out when there is a drought. I believe this is done so the river below the dam does not get so warm that it can no longer support the fish in the river. I also believe that the Passaic Valley Water Commission no longer takes drinking water from the pump station on Jackson Ave. I think they stopped testing the water there sometime around 2001.
Rob Burke
10:12 am on Monday, January 23, 2012
Thanks, Sandy.
Don Leich
5:45 pm on Sunday, January 22, 2012
The flood commission had 15 specific recommendations. How are we doing with implementing #15. Moratorium on All New Development within the Floodplain ?
Don Leich
9:47 am on Monday, January 23, 2012
Rob -- Who would want to drink out of that lake? During the hearing a local related that when core samples had been taken of the sediment they were followed by massive fish kills.
Rob Burke
9:50 am on Monday, January 23, 2012
What I was asking is whether the contamination in the lake infiltrates the water that comes out of our faucets. Do you know if it does?
Don Leich
10:58 pm on Monday, January 23, 2012
From what I can find out is that Pompton Lake serves as a backup water source for reservoirs that provide drinking water to many North Jersey towns.
http://www.northjersey.com/news/environment/134103508_DuPont.html?page=all
Here's something on the sorry condition of the Wayne shore of the lake.
http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/korotkin/comments/flood_remedies_carpe_diem/
Rob Burke
5:39 am on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
@don - yikes! Seems to me that there is no safe alternative to allowing poisoned water into anyone's drinking supply ever. I was talking with a customer yesterday who told me his neighbor's well tested positive for some chemicals from the DuPont plume and the kids developed serious medical complications. DuPont paid them some paltry sum and that was that. Yet the house is still occupies, the water is still tainted. I don't get it.
Rob Burke
6:16 am on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
@don - forgive me for being slow on the uptake, but I assume this means that this poisoned water flows right through the river view section of Wayne? And into peoples homes when there are floods? I wonder if dredging and desnagging without addressing the poison problem is what really makes sense...this is scary...and in 21st century northern new jersey...
Don Leich
8:25 am on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Pompton Lake is a disaster. We don't know what's coming down stream because it's not being tested. If you close your eyes, the problem goes away, right? DuPont has been working on their "clean-up" for 30 years now, obviously trying to do as little as possible. The residents of Pompton Lakes have been waiting long enough and are pushing for Super Fund status -- where the EPA will dictate to DuPont the scope of the clean up and DuPont will pay. Cleaning 1/10 of the lake won't do.
Bill Wolfe is a former DEP guy who knows the process inside and out and caught the EPA/DEP napping with their shoddy science at the hearing on the 5th.
http://www.wolfenotes.com/2012/01/the-great-dupont-train-rcra/
Al Scala
10:01 am on Monday, January 23, 2012
I think we need to desnag and clean out our Township Council first.
Don Leich
9:47 am on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
There's astonishing mercury contamination in Pompton Lake. The Wayne town council has been informed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGAa3JAOsVk
leanbean
11:20 am on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Down stream at the Fairfield Rd. pump station by the two bridges. Both Passaic Valley Water Comm. and North Jersey Water Comm. pump water to the sites. Passaic Valley pumps to there treament plant in Little Falls. And North Jersey pumps up to Monksville Reservoir.
Bill Brennan
10:54 pm on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
30 years of a "clean up" that is spreading pollution - 30 years of the same politicians getting appointed and re-elected despite incompetence, inefficiency and inability to do anything except take care of the good ole boys. Studying for the Bar Exam - be back in March!
leanbean
11:13 pm on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Take your time. Your not missed.
John Davies
3:53 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Which bar? I'll drink elsewhere.
Bill Brennan
12:07 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
That's ok bean - I don't like you or anything about you.
You are noting but an anonymous heckler who lacks sufficient courage of his convictions to back his words with his name. You are of no moment in any conversation worth having.
Rob Burke
6:46 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I for one see no benefit in the cleanup of this poison with equally poisonous words. The vitriole does nothing to clean the water and the soil - it serves only to harden positions and injects personal animosity into a catastrophe that's already complicated enough to address. The simple fact is that the pollution here is deadly and destructive to a huge swath of people and places. It isn't fixed because it's expensive and difficult to fix. The question is how to coalign everyone's interests so the pollution can get cleaned up as efficiently as possible. A bus load of people to visit Lisa Jackson down in dc couldnt hurt. Or in front of DuPont headquarters. Name calling on a forum is counterproductive.
Sandy Fantau
9:28 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Rob, thank you. You could not have said it better. People need to focus on getting Pompton Lakes clean and with the floodgates the DEP needs to look into how far the contamination has spread.
Rob Burke
11:08 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Thanks, Sandy. I'm frustrated by this game of name calling and trying to win the political battle du jour. These are real problems literally killing our friends and our neighbors and otherwise shattering their lives. If we can somehow strip the anger out and focus on solving problems, that would bea big step in the right direction. It's not about taking credit - its about solving problems. I'd Iike to see a commission populated by people directly affected by these issues with the power, govt funding and authority to evaluate specific issues and make recommendations to the executive branch of this state or to the EPA. Get the local and county governments out of these issues - isolate the issues from the politics and get to work. Since all that is pie in the sky, what ever happened with bobby Kennedy jr.? He was paying attention to this stuff before - is he still?
Frankie McKormick
4:29 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
I fill my drinking canteen from that river, I hope I don't get sick ?
Rob Burke
5:46 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Filter it, you'll be fine.