I think that this effort is an attempt by the extreme right wing to purge voting roles at all costs in order to attempt to attain a voter majority to further their extreme agenda. It will not work because 'the problem' does not exist.

Apparently, this is orchestrated by the tea party.

What a load of garbage, obviously just a way to make it harder to vote. Dead person on the roll, first you'd need to know that the name was still there, then find the precinct, then find the right table, then present yourself with some similarities to the deceased [gender, age, ethnicity, race] and forge the signature, then if challenged take a chance on going to jail , all to change one vote. Ms. Sabatino would be better off looking to preserve our government given socialized medicine aka Medicare.

This is beyond description...Our preoccupation with racist attitudes takes away from the real issues facing our future as a civilized nation.....

Can anyone locate the events that occurred in the Florida presidential election of 2000?

Actually, the timing for the 2012 Presidential Election is quite interesting. Will SCOTUS once again give the country a President that it did not vote for, aka BUSH?

Fairplay? This is a signature tactic of ALEC (american legislative exchange council) where dozens of faux propositions have been put foward under the guise of the democartic process all intended to achieve a reprehensible ends. It is facism by any other name.
Suddenly there is an spontaneous outbreak of this agenda put forward by gop governors across the republic and we are not to believe this is a dark and sinister attempt to deny voters their franchise till after the election by which time it would be too late to amend?
Already citizens across the country who have been targeted by this conspiracy have shown their decades long legitimate franchise and in doing so unmasked the how low the teabagger's are willing to go to subvert the democratic process in support of their very flawed, carpetbagging, vulture capitalist, off shore tax sheltering, jobs exporting, darling Romney.
So far as knowing or not knowing a problem exists in the first place? Your question has made the point.
The extreme right wing loon agenda is not selling in the market place of free ideas.

Fairplay, no one can be intimidated unless they allow it. Is there a resurgence of the Black Panthers?

Bush took a surplus from the Clinton administration and blew it.

Corporations are reacting to increased public scrutiny and the news that almost every day, another ALEC member corporation and funder decides to quit. The list includes YUM! Brands, Blue Cross and Blue Shield, Mars Inc., Coca-Cola, PepsiCo, Kraft Foods, Intuit, McDonald's, Wendy's, American Traffic Solutions, Reed Elsevier, and Arizona Public Service. CMD and other groups are now urging State Farm, Johnson & Johnson, and AT&T to reconsider their membership with ALEC.

.Center For Media and Democracy

FP get off the extreme right wing kool aide will you please? This effort to issues ID cards smacks of Jim Crowe and will not be tolerated!
The issues you raise with respect to the economy provided net jobs to American workers here at home, the Bain Capital overseas outsourcing of American jobs netted profits for Romney and that is an undeniable fact.

Apparently one place there were a few knuckle heads who called themselves Black Panthers outside a voting booth, and no one not one person was intimidated, so Fox has shown the video over one hundred times [this is true], and Fairplay checks under his bed every night to make sure there are no Black Panthers there.

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Author Martin Niemöller

Well JimmyPete, there is one example which is one more than you have that people will be intimidated by having to get an ID card. If you want the whole country's political scene to mimic that of Chicago politics, keep it the way it is. Do you really think fraud doesn't exist?

Which argument do you deem ridiculous?

Too much RUSH... Sounds like one of our fearless council.

The obvious bigotry is with this town council who aims and directs its vengeance against those that don't comply with their wishes, such as the chicken keepers, etal.

The fact that this adminstration thinks an ID card is wrong, but having non-secret union votes are ok.

I am not the one who used the word "racist". Do not accuse me of something I did not say.
If you are calling me a "bigot" because I am against bullies who force their will on others for the sole purpose of control, then I suggest you clarify what you are trying to say.

Eyes, when you don't have an argument, you use disparaging remarks? This administration is transparent? Remember how all bills were going to go on a public website for review for a week so all us regular people could read them? How did that work out. If you want transparency, you should be for voter id. If you prove you have nothing to hide that's transparent, right? Or do you have a different definition of transparency to support your argument?

Reagan pushed down our throats? Reagan never had a super majority. Or did you forget that? He reduced unemployment, inflation, got the hostages released, ended the cold war, revitalized our economy. Or perhaps you're a person who thought Jimmy Carter was a genius? As far as Santorum comments, Hillary had equally damaging comments, as did her husband, about Obama. Does that make it true???

So, getting back to the article, where is there evidence that this will disenfranchise people?

Hmmm how many times Did Reagan raise taxes? Try 11 times while in office..Your people want to keep the Bush Tax Credits.. now that makes sense in balancing the budget huh? Reagan 11 times raised them to get the deficit down and yet YOUR boy wants to extend the tax credits..
Reagan nearly tripled the federal budget deficit. During the Reagan years, the debt increased to nearly $3 trillion, “roughly three times as much as the first 80 years of the century had done altogether.
Unemployment soared after Reagan’s 1981 tax cuts. Unemployment jumped to 10.8 percent after Reagan enacted his much-touted tax cut, and it took years for the rate to get back down to its previous level. Meanwhile, income inequality exploded. Despite the myth that Reagan presided over an era of unmatched economic boom for all Americans, Reagan disproportionately taxed the poor and middle class, but the economic growth of the 1980′s did little help them. “Since 1980, median household income has risen only 30 percent, adjusted for inflation, while average incomes at the top have tripled or quadrupled,

Another one of YOUR boys that don't look so great.. If Reagan were alive today, YOUR party would consider him a LIBERAL...Just a few things about Reagan that Conservatives don't want you to know...Just tell Willard to PRODUCE the returns and lets settle it...Hmmmm?

By my boy, you must mean Obama since he wants to keep them. Can't have it both ways? But wait, if I use your logic, the rise in unemployment during Reagan had to be Carter's fault, right? And how much has Obama increased the deficit? When are you libs going to realize that we don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem? Manufacturing has been driven out of this country by unions, over-regulation and taxation.

Romney did NO outsourcing at Bain?? Is that what your TRYING to tell me? He even outsourced the Olympic Uniforms...Now here's my question..Should YOUR boy produce his tax returns?? Just a simple yes or no will do...As members of YOUR party are now coming out more and more to say he should, what is YOUR opinion? Just wondering LOL

Today you have to show ID for everything, so why you you not need it to vote???
It should have been done years ago.

Ok Fairplay your answer is a big no..Thought so..Check into the outsourcing while Romney was at Bain,,Check out how his compnay tired to get Staples office supplies for the Olympics through Bain. And yes please check out the uniforms for the Olympics...LOL YOU just might learn something even though you think you know it all

Apparently, you can't read. I said he should produce his tax returns. Unfortunately, like all lefties, you haven't answered one of my questions. And, if you are going to make claims, you cite your sources. Don't tell me to look up your claims. So again, eyes, answer my questions if you have the guts.

FP, nobody is buying in your line of whoo-wee here.

The idea that there is rampant voter fraud is nonsense. Efforts such as these suggested in Wayne are a waste of taxpayer money, agenda driven and created to intimidate those of low income, color or age who are most likely to succumb to its irrational demands.

If you'd like to know the numbers and truth - look no further than here:

http://www.brennancenter.org/content/resource/policy_brief_on_the_truth_about_voter_fraud/

I quote from the article:

"Because voter fraud is essentially irrational, it is not surprising that no credible evidence suggests a voter fraud epidemic. There is no documented wave or trend of individuals voting multiple times, voting as someone else, or voting despite knowing that they are ineligible. Indeed, evidence from the microscopically scrutinized 2004 gubernatorial election in Washington State actually reveals just the opposite: though voter fraud does happen, it happens approximately 0.0009% of the time. The similarly closely-analyzed 2004 election in Ohio revealed a voter fraud rate of 0.00004%. National Weather Service data shows that Americans are struck and killed by lightning about as often."

Think about those things the next time you are too lazy or too busy to vote. Illegal aliens are wrongfully voting, often more than once, in many of our elections, both national and local. Not only are you giving up a say when you don't vote, you are compounding it by silently condoing the vote of someone who does not even have the right to be here, let alone vote on who will lead this country. There are an estimated 13-20 million illegal aliens in this country and who knows how many here with green cards. All in all, at least 30 million people, or 10% of the U.S. population, not having the RIGHT to vote. Wanna guess what voter turnout is in these communities? In the cities, the southern border with Mexico in particular. I bet it's pretty high, MUCH higher than the 25% turnout we get in average Presidential elections. So 10% of the nation's population, which doesn't even have the RIGHT to vote, is disproportionately affecting elections...that alone is reason enough to require ID cards. There can be no legitimate argument against it.

FP no one is ignoring the facts except you and the people behind this malicious effort to steal an election by attempting to suspend some estimated 5 million estimated votes based on some highly dubious paranoic assssertions, that thousands of people here in Wayne are phony voters!
What I would like to see is this group post a bond of say? I dunno? 1 million dollars per challenged voter they can come up with to indemnify the township against civil action for having struck a qualified voter from the rolls?
But they will not assure the fidelity of their actions by posting such a bond I am sure of that.
Get off it FP, the word is out the extreme wing of the gop, is bereft of being able to debate the pressing issues of the time and so they seek to disqualify voters instead of registering non voters to begin with.
The moderate base of the gop must be mortified of yet another teaparty overreach.

“It is something that you hear about and then you start seeing things and hearing things and then you start asking yourself the question ‘can something like this really happen?’”

If the Police went about arresting people based on notions like this it would be called lack of probable cause. The great leap from, there are deceased voters on the rolls, to some one is actually using that name to vote is not something this group has demonstrated.

eyes? I suppose you are right, the teaparty types have been spawned from some sort of extreme position pushing extreme agendas that even the rank and file of the gop cannot abide by as is illustrated in some of the polls over the last few years?

Rob Burke
1:35 pm on Tuesday, July 17, 2012

@Fairplay: If voter ID is so important, why are you posting anonymously? Isn't it ironic that you hide behind an alias while demanding that poor people identify themselves or lose their right to vote! Only in America...

I'll second that Mr Burke!

I agree with what Bob Burke said. "Don't rob his store".

I'm a bit confused. I believe you are required to prove who you are the first time you regester to vote.

Voter registration
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Your County Commissioner of Registration will notify you if your application is accepted. If it is not accepted, you will be notified on how to complete and/or correct the application.

Sorry, I missed the point buried in these posts somewhere? Why is showing your driver's license so intimidating to poor people and naturalized citizens? I agree that voter fraud is not a problem in Wayne, but I observed first hand voter-fraud in Hudson County. I am not about to take the time to research if a study was done since I am gainfully employed and want to stay that way, but I don't know how any study could be accurate. The one cited above by Boron studied Washington State, probably the whitest white-bread state west of the Mississippi. Bet that same study in TX, AZ, NM, CA, FL, MI, IL, NY or NJ would look a lot different. A cynical viewpoint would say that the study cited was done in WA precisely to get the desired results. I don't know how one proves the issue that voter fraud is since it is shadowy and based on the lack of control on voting. What I do know is that I witnessed people in line in front of me openly talking about getting paid to vote and one fella voting 3x as different people. That's how it's done in Hudson County and elsewhere. Maybe not the largest issue on the national agenda but considering the fix is showing a driver's license, state ID, passport or birth certificate, hardly one that needs any attention to fix. The arguments against it are laughable so much so that it strains credibility of those fighting so hard so that people DO NOT have to prove who they are. So silly. Stew and Rob, you are so wrong on this one.

Rob - none of these points are valid:

1) Statute ought to be national for national elections, but this is something that could be/should be passed easily. The only rationale for not doing it is cutting out a percentage of the voting population that happens to be illegal.

2) Sometimes, societal rules are tough on some people. That is nothing new. We're not going to institute a policy so a few old ladies can continue to do things like 50 years ago? I bet the harm to people over 90 yrs. old is minimal compared to the amount of people who are voting illegally.

3) That may be so in suburban districts but often the poll volunteers in suspect districts are aiding and abetting voter fraud. Comparison of signatures is a totally inadequate and invalid "safeguard."

4) Absolute crap. In NJ, you are on the voting rolls when you register for a license. If you change your name, you get a new license and the change is automatic. If you don't get around to it that quickly, you vote under your old name with your old license.

5) This may be true although I have never heard of that and you haven't offered any examples. I wonder how such people have any ID at all and are able to travel internationally. Some kind of exception can be made I suppose if that is the case, e.g. "conscientious objector" type of exclusion. Not too many draft frauds will go that route.

6) Voter fraud is absolutely rampant whether you recognize it or not, probably even right in Morristown.

People, this thread represents what is known as a "straw man" argument. Make up a phantom scenario and then present ridiculous reasons why the argument is wrong. There just isn't any legitimate reason not to require some form of basic ID to vote, the highest privilege an American can have. Non-Americans DON'T GET TO VOTE. I am offended by those who do, including my ex-sister in law. Getting a handle on illegal immigration would be another way to address voter fraud, but requiring a simple valid driver's license or ID equivalent gets the job done nicely, and no one is compromised.

Its about time we came to our senses and required all voters to show picture ID in order to vote and eliminate voter fraud. Where ever you go you need to show that you are the person you claim to be. You can't drive, board an airplane, purchase acholol,etc. Why are people so afraid to indentify yourself in order to vote for your candiate? I'm all for it and it should be the law of the land.

More arguements to keep voters from discussing the real state of affairs in this country. Keep throwing hay on the fire to keep the smoke screen over the issues.

Tax returns wanted??? Release College transcripts. Romneys a felon??? Obama used illegal drugs (felony) and wrote about it.

Right wing attempt to prevent fair election? Disinfranchisement? Whatever. Billions spent on illegal aliens while taxpayers struggle to eat. 800,000 illegals granted work visas while millions of citizens can't find work. Illegals use federal college aid to attend colleges that taxpaying citizens can not send their own children to. Obamacare for all, except if your a President, Senator, Congressman, Justice, live in Harry Reids state ( and hand picked others) or a member of a Union. Isn't that what the Equal Protection Clause was for?

Meanwhile the current administration outsources jobs to foreign countries, compounds deficits, and fails to produce PERMANENT jobs. To their own part Republicans refuse to take off the gloves and produce real plans to fix the issues smothering this nation and since the Democrats can't, nothing happens.

Limited Government, Rights of the People, remember when they really meant something?

Keep at it ... your exactly what the government thrives on!

The topic of this article was taking deceased voters of the rolls. These are DEAD people, people.

How can keeping them on the voting registry offer anything other than the possibility of fraud.

Keep to the issues. Exactly what the government hates!! There is a difference between political debate and idealogical blindness. Usually, introducing an arguement with a left or right wing bias indicates your attempt to bash an opposing viewpoint.

Political discussion, arguements, and ultimately agreement led to the creation of this great country. It has lasted over 200 years by the coninuation of this debate. The rhetoric over the last 4 years is unprecedented. Blame it on a polarizing President, a spineless senate, or an odeological congress. Either way, the country is not as strong as it was, and day after day we borrow our way into further weakness and and pain.

Bring up the issues of a nation, debate those issues, make your point to an elected offical and engage them in the debate. That was the process that unfortunately has been aborted by the political parties and the lobbiests that run the nation.

By the people, for the people ... those were the days.

I am a bit tired of this nonsense. What is wrong with proving you are who you say you are. If you go for a loan you have to show who you are, As for the aged, which I saw mentioned, and the problem they face in obtainining ID well don't they need it when they go to the doctors office. Give me a break and let's put some teeth in our laws. I believe that we are misrepresenting our constitution. If you don't have something to hide than you should not be afraid to show ID.

It's imperative to support the photo Id required. This socialist has to get the hell out of the whitehouse or the future of this country is finished.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/04/09/Okeefe-Holderhttp://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/04/09/Okeefe-Holder

If you have nothing to hide there is no issue.

All of us are ATM machines. We should be able to tell them who we are and they should tell us "our" pin number. If we agree, we continue conducting business. If we disagree- "tuff luck" try again !!!
I don't hide behind a secret identity and have no problem proving who I am, but it ticks me off I need to remember a different password to get into everything about me that they posess even though it's mine, and all they require is a photo I.D. to do as they please.

suppose we compromise and make all citizen united cash donations subject to id too?

What ever happened to George Soros' funding to the"The Secretary of State Project " lol
Joseph Stalin once said: “The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.”

It's about time. Enough of Acorn and votes from Mickey Mouse. Obama got away w/murder the last election. And let's not forget the absentee ballots.

hey hot head, it was bushco that got away with murder when colin powell went before the UN and gave his now WMD speech, when bushco lied and people died, and today?
Obama Biden have ended the Iraq war, are winding down the Afghanistan incursion, brought justice to osama bin laden, and was upheld by Scotus on the Affordable Healthcare Act. As what the gop attempted to push the nation into econoimc default to as Mitch McConnel said his # 1 job is to destroy Obama?
Lets face up to the facts shall we? Your craowd cannot stand the fact that man of color is POTUS now and is not going to fight for continued tax breaks for the very wealthy as the rest shoulder the burdens of the bushco ineptitude, and the only was you can relive the bad ol days os squandering the clinton surplus in to the largest debt in the history of the world is by first disenfranchising as many persons from voting as you possibly can.
and the whole world is watching

Stewart your the problem with the Americans in this country. That you still bring up Bush after the last 3 1/2 deplorable years of Obumer shows how much of a hippie bubble you live in. Bush was terrible and spent money like a liberal and I did not vote for him but what Obumer has done does not pale in comparison. The onion is peeled back on Barry Soetero and he is a naked Marxist. You might be ok with that and use your freedom as an American to vote for a Big Government Socialist, that's fine get your free rationed healthcare, free food stamps,drive your Chevy volt and get a gov't job. Thanks but no thanks. As for wars as long as its a war with a D in front of it you never hear Boo about it. Please tell me how many soldiers died in Afganistan since Obumer took office? A liberals losing argument will always end in your a racist lol that's because you can't take the facts and run on emotion.. Hey college graduates don't worry about a job you have free health care until your 26 , 99 weeks of unemployment, food stamps , when unemployment is finished you can go on disability America the beautiful. Obumer Is creating the dream dependency class that is all part of his transformation. No thanks.

As of June 13, 2012, 55 state legislators have cut ties with ALEC:

http://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Legislators_Who_Have_Cut_Ties_to_ALEC

ALEC is a corporate bill mill. It is not just a lobby or a front group; it is much more powerful than that. Through ALEC, corporations hand state legislators their wishlists to benefit their bottom line. Corporations fund almost all of ALEC's operations. They pay for a seat on ALEC task forces where corporate lobbyists and special interest reps vote with elected officials to approve “model” bills. Learn more at the Center for Media and Democracy's ALECexposed.org, and check out breaking news on our PRWatch.org site.

Voting is not like our privilege to drive a car or having to show an ID to utilize the privilege of boarding an airplane in our current post-nine eleven society. Casting a ballot is a fundamental right protected by the US Constitution (19th) and, any attempts to stop this right to vote, is anti-democratic, and should be taken seriously. If we move to another section of town or within the state we are required to change our voter regestration. If we are worried about dead people voting, then maybe 20 days before an election each voting district should have someone fpllow the death notices and put a challenge in for that person. However to impar the right to vote for all people is wrong. That is why we have the Bill of Rights.

Fundamental right just like Obamacare please lady you have no argument. Anti-demacratic lol what about the patriot act and Ndaa? Check out that Breitbart video a couple of comments ahead my eye balls fell out.

Senate Republicans blocked legislation aimed at making campaign groups more transparent. In a party-line 53-45 vote, the Senate killed the DISCLOSE Act. It needed at least 60 votes to move forward.
Republicans said the DISCLOSE Act would discourage free speech by intimidating donors.
The DISCLOSE Act would have prevent partisan “social welfare” organizations like Karl Rove’s Crossroads GPS from being able to hide wealthy donors.
Rawstory.com

catchon
73% of Likely Voters polled DO NOT BELIEVE that photo ID requirements discriminate against some voters (see the link below). If you believe otherwise, you're clearly in the minority (no pun intended).
For the life of me, I will never understand why people have no problem showing ID to get a pack of cigarettes or a bottle of liquor, yet have an issue with showing ID to vote. We've evolved into a very sad state of affairs in this country if you are "yes ma'am or yes sir" when asked to produce ID to buy booze, but quibble about the same requirement in order to vote. What's wrong with this picture?! Priorities is wrong with this picture!
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/july_2012/most_voters_favor_photo_id_at_polls_don_t_see_it_as_discrimination

Who will be able to vote in this year’s pivotal presidential and congressional elections? That is a key question, and the answer will be shaped by the wave of new laws in states designed to curb and suppress voting in the name of combating voter fraud that has repeatedly been proved to be virtually nonexistent.

It took the majority leader of Pennsylvania to show that voter fraud is not exactly the only motivator — in the Keystone State, a measure was designed to enable presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney to win by cutting nearly
9 percent of voters from the rolls.

Actually, state Rep. Mike Turzai (R) was not the first elected official to commit embarrassing truth when discussing voter ID laws. In New Hampshire, the Republican state speaker told a tea party gathering that he supported the state’s voter ID law because it would decrease student voting, and: “They’re foolish. Voting as a liberal, that’s what kids do.” What a surprise that in Texas, a concealed weapon permit is acceptable for voting, but a state university-issued student ID is not.

Ron Orenstein: American Enterprise Institute

Study: Millions of voters face ‘structural barriers’ due to voter ID laws
The study says 1 in 10 voters in states with those laws – Alabama, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and Wisconsin – fall below the federal poverty line and live more than 10 miles from the government office that issues identifications, often without a vehicle.

“What we found really undercuts the claim by many proponents of these laws that eligible voters can easily obtain an ID to vote,” one of the study’s authors, Keesha Gaskins, said at a Wednesday press conference. “Our findings demonstrate that there will very likely be a significant number of citizens who will struggle to obtain a photo ID due to structural barriers.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/18/study-millions-of-voters-face-structural-barriers-due-to-voter-id-laws/

The poll by Latino Decisions, released Wednesday, showed support for Obama rising to 70% of registered Latino voters, compared with 22% for Romney. If that margin held until the election, it could play a significant role in battleground states with sizable Latino populations, such as Florida, Nevada and Colorado.

LATimes.com

Spare me the GOD is on my side so I am right schtick will ya??

TheLoneRanger1
9:25 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

There is no such thing as the extreme right. That is a misnomer. If you are talking about God fearing, freedom loving, motivated patriotic Americans who don’t like to see government, groups or individuals undermining what God has given us and are doing something about it,'

How soon we forget history. Do we really want more of our rights as citizens of the country to be taken away.

By the end of the nineteenth century, Idaho, Colorado, Utah, and Wyoming had enfranchised women but this did not allow women to vote in federal elections. It was not until 1920, with the ratification of the 19th amendment, that women could vote in national elections.

Amendment XV did give black people the right to vote in 1870, and some used it right away, electing state and federal senators and representatives. Jim Crow quickly snatched away that right for all practical purposes, however, as poll taxes and literacy tests--and Klansmen--denied blacks that fundamental right. President Johnson's Civil Rights Act of 1964 was the true turning point in the USA's history of beginning to embrace blacks as full citizens with equal rights.

Are the people who supposedly face "structural barriers" in getting to a government office to obtain Voter ID totally housebound, as in ill? Or, do they manage to make it to a family wedding? a graduation party? go out with friends? Do they have the luxury of working less than "10 miles" from their homes, or must they travel further to get to work? The IMPORTANCE of spending a day of one's life arranging for Voter ID far outweighs the importance of all else. Otherwise, casting your vote is no real biggie to you. One day in your life. And no matter if it required more than one day. Is that a lot to ask to ensure the sanctity of your vote, and my vote? I don't think so.

Nj's 6 point driver license plan is a structural barrier by definition, perhaps you want to take that up with the bellicose governor at a town hall?

I dont see why this is even an issue. I have to show ID to cash a check, to apply for a job, to apply for credit, to get on a plane. I have no political agenda to the left or the right, i am middle of the road. But i have no problem whatsoever showing ID to vote. This falls in line with people fighting against the new requirements in some states that welfare recipients get drug tested before recieving benefits. I have to take a drug test to work, why shouldnt someone on welfare have to take a drug test to get that money? This ID thing is not taking away the right to vote, and wether or not you can prove or not prove there is voter fraud, we all know it exists, has existed in the past, and will continue to exist until a solution is implimented. Rob Burke, of course there are people out there that will have some difficulty obtaining an ID, but at 99 years old, how did she get through life without any ID already? And the 61,000 Amish? surely there is a solution to that too. AND how are voter ID laws racist? the real racists are the liberals who think only white people are capable of obtaining ID.

Good points Chris...using an exception of a 99 year old to attempt to invalidate a process to ensure vote integrity is an old rhetorical device. Imagine not wanting the dead to be off the roles. Can a person walk into a polling place and sign for a ballot that is not theirs; is it possible for illegal immigrants to get phony documents that would allow them to vote...YES! Has it happened ...YES!! Google Project Veritas and look for the videotaped undercover investigations on what can happen at a poll when someone wants a ballot that belongs to someone else. And Florida just gained access to the Homeland Security database to check its rolls. The DOJ fought it at first but then allowed it, because Florida was going ahead regardless.

Chris I see it, your (ALEC) movements hysterical willingness to disregard the rights of the elderly and those of a different religious persuassion based on the notion that there is rampant voter fraud here in Wayne is akin to McCarthyism. In the examples of the articles I have posted, there is ample emperical data to support the notion that minorities and the elderly will be most affected by this purging of the rolls.
As your position is that you meet the proposals id requirements, ergo everyone else should too, does not square with reality.
I for one very much look forward to your groups data that shows how great voter fraud is here in wayne Township in the final analysis.

Stew , this issue goes beyone Wayne Township. And if you read my comments completely, you would realize that there HAS TO be a solution for the Amish (or any other religious group that has issue with photo ID). It realllly isnt as tough as the 99 year olds story makes it seem to be. My wife, after we married, needed to changer her license, ss car, and voter reg. Total time taken to do this-2 hours, including drive time. Stop at ss office, 20 minutes. Stop at DMV, 20 minutes, and the voter reg was done at DMV I believe also.The majority of the population should be able to handle getting an ID or license, fairly simply.At age 17, i was a complete knucklehead, but still managed to get my license. Anyone who says this is tooo hard is just making excuses. Yes, some exceptions have to be made, because everyones situation is not the same, but that does not make it wrong to require ID.

Chris thanks for the reasoned measured response, so you chose to ignore the McCarthyism characterisation of the ALEC sponsored teaparty efforts because?

I dont follow the teaparty, or the Dems, or the Reps, or even the John Birchers line of thought. I follow my own logic and reason. Are the actions of the teaparty wrong? probably. Were the efforts of ACORN wrong? probably. Some ideas from both sides are good ideas/terrible execution. The McCarthyism aspect is wrong wrong wrong. There should be NO political bias on this, and many other issues that face our country today. There should be governing, not politicing. I know this sounds a little idealistic, but if the citizens of our country could remember this, and stop being petty about a (R) and (D) in front of someones name, maybe we could make some progress. I tend to notice that both sides tend to pooh-pooh any idea that comes from the other side, no matter how well thought out the idea is. This amounts to spinning your wheels in a snowstorm; you cant get anywhere, and probably cant see the road ahead either. Im rambling now, but im also dead tired.

Oh, and thanks for the compliment on my reasoned, measured response. I like to discuss issues, not assasinate people from behind a screenname on message boards, unlike most people on most message boards. Discussions solve problems, derision only pushes the problems to the back burner and makes the character attacks the focus.

I have a voter ID card and always have. I dont understand the issue here. I'm just not asked to show it; which boggles my mind. If I was homebound and someone knew it they could waltz in and vote in my name. All they need is my address and polling place.
The cards cost nothing.
Let's stop counting penneys and save some dollars. Illegals and nonexistant people are votes that dilute our tax revenue for illegal issues and useless issues.

You pay for it and distribute them to everyone and I am in.

Republicans filibustered the DISCLOSE Act. Every single Republican present refused to allow a vote.
It’s outrageous.Too much is at stake and we can’t let the Republicans continue to block this critical legislation. That’s why we’re bringing the DISCLOSE Act back for another vote today. Corporations and special interests are writing multi-million dollar checks that are changing the outcomes of elections. This legislation would bring transparency to the process by forcing them to disclose their donors and political spending.Join me right now –and demand that Congress pass the DISCLOSE Act once and for all.
Add your voice to our petition to pass the DISCLOSE Act. It's the first step forward in fixing the deep flaws in our system created by Citizens United.

Thanks for taking a stand for our democracy.

I think the real problem is how few people actually get out and vote. We need to be in incouraging more people to vote, not think of ways to stop people from voting.

State New Jersey    2010 General Election Turnout Rates
VEP Highest Office Turnout Rate - 36.4%
VEP Total Ballots Counted Turnout Rate - 37.8%
VAP Turnout Rate - 31.4%
Voting-Age Population - 6,753,336
%  Non-citizen - 12.4%
Prison - 25,007
Probation - 57,517
Parole - 15,563 
Total Ineligible Felon - 90,306
Overseas Eligible - 110,559
Voting-Eligible Population - 5,825,429
Highest Office - 2,121,584
Total  Turnout -2,200,974

VEP Turnout Rate <recommended statistic> is the vote for highest office divided by the voting-eligible population or VEP. In a midterm election, the vote for highest office is the highest vote tally for Governor, U.S. Senator, or combined House of Representatives. The voting-eligible population is the best estimate of the number of people eligible to vote.

Please stop putting my name in quotes, it is my real name, you can google it. Thank You.

Now on to the matter at hand.

A: There is no reason to not have ID in this day and age. NONE.
B: This is about removing names of the dead from the roles. Why is that a problem?
C: Rob Burke is a real person, I met him at the very very beginning of his windmill crusade. I offered a piece of advice to him, he scoffed at me and looked at me distainfully, and then one of his employees tried to sell me an air filter that i didnt need yet. Mr. Burke, i fully support environmental crusade, but would not and could not support your way of going about getting it done. Repeating the same "facts" over and over and over again does not make them true, it just makes you a broken record. How much has YOUR fight cost the taxpayers?? Probably enough to get a voter ID card for every voting age citizen in Wayne.

Comment from anonymous poster deleted: Here it is in order to make sense of Chris comments, 1 of 4
M. Jess Sain also commented on Group Wants Residents To Show ID Before Voting.

"I took an hour or so and read through the comments on this blog (checked a few of links offered). If you do that, you will notice that anytime someone states essentially that they have no problem with ID being required to vote, a “Rob Burke”, a “Stewart Resmer” and a handful of others will mock, belittle and make insults. You will remember high-schoolers like them. They aren’t really able to back up their position so they resort to less mature debate tactics, be they “talking points” or whining or name-calling. When asked direct questions, instead of providing a direct answer they either ask their own question or change the subject. But most amusing about the “Rob Burke” (as in, “raise your hand if you are SURE that “Rob Burke” is HIS real name”) commentary beside his endless chiding of others who straightforwardly post anonymously, is how, about every 3 or 4 posts he repeatedly re-states the fact (with which we SHOULD all agree, since it IS, sadly, FACT) that NJ currently has NO Voter ID law in place. Again, NJ currently has NO Voter ID law in place. So, did you all get that? Yes? Good. In fact, I would bet most, if not ALL of the rest of us got it

3 of 4:
The group is MERELY circulating a petition to get a law enacted, ironically just as you have been bragging about doing (c’mon, you mentioned it like three times so far). So WHY the haughty reprimands, brother? Since I’ll not banter with “Rob Burke”, I’ll posit an answer and let readers decide. The article states that, “The group has created a petition it will mail to Lt. Gov. Kim Guadagno, the Secretary of State, to MOVE (my emphasis added) legislation… A bill in the state Senate, number S-200, calls for such a requirement…” and -continued-"
"“An identical bill exists in the state’s General Assembly.” So, as “Rob Burke” knows painfully well (he did tell us he “did this”, at least twice) THE BILLS ARE ALREADY WRITTEN AND IN BOTH HOUSES of the NJ Legislature. They just need to be prodded out of the committee the group references and they tell the reader how: “…to request a petition to sign, send an e-mail to njregionalteaparty@gmail.com. This may be a little “too close for comfort” if you LIKE the status quo, hence the snide running commentary from “Rob Burke”.

4 of 4:
And just so that I can receive double the vitriol that “Rob Burke” has in store, here is a “Stewart Resmer” erroneous quote that that post-er will likely not enjoy my pointing out (from his reply to “Chris” 1:12am, July 19th): he looks “forward to your groups data that shows how great voter fraud is here in wayne Township in the final analysis.” According to the article, this group is removing dead person’s names from the voter rolls. Period. I think “Stewart Resmer” will have to wait for any reports on voter fraud, as much as he seems to be salivating for them. What’s up with “Stewart Resmer”? Maybe they’re alter egos. Frankly, for all the hype about how great Wayne is, I sure hope these two aren’t representative."

Also, Bill's comment exposing this person's pseudonym:
Bill also commented on Group Wants Residents To Show ID Before Voting.

"M. Jess Sain. Cute for "I'm just saying" with plenty of inner city jive. Keep on rapping bro."

I can't understand why "M. Jess Sain" would post 3 verbacious comments, only to delete theirs and Bill's when Bill questioned the poster's name??? What a waste of energy. Why were these deleted?

Rob, you are welcome

To "M.Jess Sain" and others who get their "thrills" by composing names that at first glance appear to be actual "names" and to the "Ed Zachary"s who venture to produce a "perception" of reality: YOU ARE NOT FOOLING ANYONE. Whereas, I and a few others choose screen names for our own personal reasons, they are exactly that: screen names. The ARROGANCE that you transmit through the use of these "names" is a mirror of the ARROGANCE that has occurred at Council and BOE meetings for the last few decades. Could it be that you are actually Council and BOE members???? SHAME, SHAME, SHAME on you. I will come out of this "closet", when this council is dethroned.

No proof? No truth! Let this crowd prove there is actual voter fraud going on in Wayne Township is the position I have come to. Show us how many decedants have turned up as having voted over the last 10 years? I think we might all be interested in finding that out.
But they do not intend to stop there, what they want is in essence a card check at the door. Why even 'loneranger' wants a Spanish Inquisotor for a which GOD do you worship or not clause because he thinks all this is for GOD after all?
This whole ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Council) is the new McCarthyism with a Facist twist.
One way to resolve this might be at the MVD, where like California, you can register to vote when you apply for a drivers license, but that would be far too LIBERAL for some people here right? lmaoraf!!!!

With what dollars Wayne has wasted on law suits they couldn't win. They couldn't have paid for every resident photo ID. The same goes for the BOE. Weather it's the law or not? Everyone of the resu=idents would have photo ID

"I post anonymously to protect my family from Democrat vermin." Democrat vermin???? Democrat vermin??? Way too much RUSH and the right wing hate mongers....All RUSH does is make money... Howard Stern raked in his millions ranting and raving and being a shock jock....RUSH is just following suit.. Democrat vermin, unfrigganbelievable in a so-called "educated" town. Democrat vermin..WOW...I just can't get over that statement...God Bless America for Freedom of Speech.

1.43 million voters will be disenfranchised respectively today in Pennsylvania according to a recent review of the newly enacted voter id law there where the state has now waived birth certificate proofs. Id's will have to be processed at 15-k per day as MVD offices close at 4:15 pm and no additional money has been added to the budget to pay for the additional labor costs.
This for a problem that does not exist, except for the sinster attempt by ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Council) to disenfranchise as many voters as possible in furtherance of their political objective.

What's next, the branding of our bodies to prove who we are????
http://ezinearticles.com/?Nazi-Germany,-the-Beginning-of-Pristine-Branding-For-Pure-Evil-(1925---1932)&id=4868934

zzzzzzzzzz...huh, what? oh sorry, fell asleep for a bit there...
Reading through these posts, I am totally amused by the sentiments put forth by the right AND the left... Democrat vermin?? Nazis?? God talk??
This is why there is no progress in anything. A discussion devolves into name calling and hate. The downfall of America boils down to this, no one on either side is able/willing to talk sensibly for more than a brief period before it becomes nasty.
Voter fraud can't be proven? Voter fraud cant be disproven? We all know that there has been voter fraud in the past, unless you have forgotten your civics/history lessons (Tammany Hall, Florida 2000). Disenfranchized voters? I still cant fathom how in this day and age, someone would not have ID of some kind. Yes, there are some exceptions (Amish, ect), but I again ask the question (yeah yeah, i know its not a law here, its law in other places, yada yada) What is wrong with requiring ID for voting? dont give me the law answer, and since the constitution was written over 200 years ago and the forefathers couldnt foresee that the US would have over 300 million citizens and the safety/security issues we have today, dont give the unconstitutional answer (since, you know, it can be ammended). AND dont give the Nazi "whats next, branding?" answer either. We should have a national ID, just for the safety and security of all residents of America.
So, knocking all those answers out, Why shouldnt we make this a federal law?

Why is everyone so willing to give up their constitutional rights for so-called safety/security? Why can't people see that the safety/security argument is just a ruse for government control and lack of privacy? Why do I need to be felt-up or scanned to bare flesh before getting on an airplane? Why do I need to present ID for anything? Why???? This is just the beginning of a fascist state. Next, they will forcibly inject us with microchips. This should NEVER be federal law. It violates everything that the constitution stands for.

For those who do have legitimate concerns regarding privacy, here is a link to a foremost privacy advocate, who also discusses the voter id fiasco.
http://www.katherinealbrecht.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=frontpage&Itemid=1

so, throw away all ID's? no more background checks for anything? you have kids, Justice? you want a pedo to end up as their caregiver? you get on a flight, you want an Al Quaida operative sitting behind you? your arguement is invalid. The constitution is what this country is founded on, and what all its laws are based on, but did the writers reallly invision what the future held? the constitution stands, but at times it needs some help. how is it a ruse for government control?

i cant leave this one alone.."Why do i need ID for anything?"...throw away ID's and leave your checkbook laying around, see how much you appreciate that little plastic card with your face on it then.

Chirs, no one is demanding that you throw away your id, as we have seen there are more and more thresholds for id, take the NJ 6 point drivers license scheme.

What this discussion is about is the ALEC sponsored initiative is designed to nullify the hostorical voter rolls in time for this particular election where there is no wholesale bulk voter fraud to report to begin with.

Here in Wayne, this groups ostensible poisiton is that because some one has died, ergo some one stole their voters ballot, and then went out and voted, got away with it and is going to vote in this election. And they have not provided one single example of where this has actually happened.

And in that some one has died, and that no one has been shown to have stolen and used that ballot, ergo we must now extend the paranoia to every voter by demanding they be card checked at the door for a problem no one has demonstrated actually exists here?

Stew, that was a knee-jerk reaction to "Justice"s comments.

But why not be pro-active instead of reactive? fix a problem, even if it isnt a problem yet, before it becomes a problem?

Chris, prior to the towers falling, the use of id's was not as prolific. After the towers fell, the royal family pushed through the patriot's act and other devises in order to control the citizens of the United States. Has the patriot's act really stopped the washing of money? Has it stopped the terrorist actions? Criminals will always find a way to circumvent the system, no matter how many laws are passed. It is the law abiding citizens that obey the law. I for one am tired of giving up all my freedoms for the guise and ruse of safety/security. I will answer some of your questions on the message board and others in the next few postings. Above all, I respect all that you are saying even though I don't agree with it.

God Bless America, Land That I Love !!! Now show me proof !!!!!!

uhm Nick? need I remind you of what has happened in Colorado?

chris? the process in which votes have been cast since the republic was formed seemed to have served the people well enough so far.

I suppose we will always have Nazi's running about from time to time demanding papers from otherwise law abiding citizens?

Knee jerk reactions are reasonable, jerks are everywhere, dont be a jerk. lol

The patriot act is truly a "tongue in cheek". For anyone who has actually read the "Patriot Act" it is everything but patriotic, restricting liberties and freedoms, to the point where, once again, law abiding citizens will obey and the others will find a way around them. My other concern is that they are sporadically and targeted enforcement,

Nick, I am not for gun control as I am a strong believer in our constitution and 2nd amendment rights. Yes, the same argument that law abiding citizens will be disarmed, unable to protect themselves and property; while the others will find a way around the law applies

Chris, "so, throw away all ID's? no more background checks for anything?" only with the full consent and approval of the individual, especially when it comes to employment. "you have kids, Justice?" answered privately "you want a pedo to end up as their caregiver?" no; but that doesn't give me the right to indiscrimately conduct checks just to find out if someone is a pedo. Pedophilia, unfortunately, is not stopped by laws "you get on a flight, you want an Al Quaida operative sitting behind you?" Who exactly is an Al Quaida operative?, the dark skinned male with Mediterranean markings or the blonde/blue eyed convert? A SLIPPERY SLOPE, "your arguement is invalid" Perhaps to you. It is your opinion, which I respect. Please respect mine. "The constitution is what this country is founded on, and what all its laws are based on, but did the writers reallly invision what the future held? the constitution stands, but at times it needs some help" Did the Tora, Bible, Quran envision what society has become? I am not comparing religion to legalities; just making a point. "how is it a ruse for government control?" anytime, someone takes my rights away under the pretense of "safety and security", I feel conned, the same way I would feel if a "Madoff" asked for money so that he could keep it safe. We all know how that turned out.

Nick, I have a real problem going through metal detectors, being groped and going through body scans. Furthermore, it has been demonstrated that some technology cannot be picked up by these "invasive" (as respects to privacy) detectors etal. Hopefully, I will be able to continue to drive where I need to go, as opposed to getting on a commercial airline. Should I ever be in a position to charter a plane, I would do that rather than be invaded.

nick I was not comfortable with something called a patriot act, and the formation of something called a dept of homeland security. sounded orwellian to me. the act because it seemed to have a potential to over reach, like say? librarys forced to report to the fbi waht otherwise law abiding citizens were reading? or teachers compelled to report suspected undocumented children in class? some people object to searches at airports, so much so a man got naked was arressted for it and the court called it 1st amendment protected speech.
its the law of unntended consequences in the hands of those who will go to no ends to achieve their objectives that concerns me most.
self appointed keepers of the patriotism under securitas sounds like tyranny.
after all these and more, aurora, OK city, Columbine still happen what act and what dept will we call for next?

Saying we should do nothing because the current technology cannot pick up everything is a dangerous argument. Fortunately, the cases you talk about are few and far between but make good media. I don't agree with little kids, grandma in wheel chairs getting pat-downs. I have flown numerous times and have not had this happen. There has to be security measures but their also needs to be accountability of those in the security field.

There was excellent reporting on this issue last night on MSNBC. Go ahead, take your shots and knock yourselves out. After you get that out of your systems, take note that there is a huge swath of people living below the poverty line in the inner cities of America. They don't own cars, they don't drive and they don't have driver's licenses. To require them to get their photo id would force them to spend money to get a birth certificate with a raised seal and then to get a driver's license. They don't have the money. To impose these requirements may seem trivial to those who take their status in life for granted. But to the folks I describe, this is nothing more than a poll tax. And those are illegal for a reason.

Again, you want to impose these requirements, I have no problem. Just as long as the cards are distributed for free and I don't have to pay for them. My taxes are already through the roof.

And, fyi, for someone to impersonate another voter is really hard. First, you need the name and address of someone to impersonate. Then, you need to cast your vote as if you were them and hope they don't try to vote themselves, If you really think this is a problem that's so big to justify the clear and obvious problems of this approach, I submit your judgment may be a bit of.

Regardless, I support voter ID if you make sure eeryone gets one for free and I don't hae to pay one red cent toward the cost.

Thank You Rob,Well Said !!!

CMD Celebrates a Year of Exposing ALEC! Heads to Utah for ALEC Annual Meeting
It has been a remarkable year since the Center for Media and Democracy (CMD) analyzed over 800 American Legislative Exchange Council “model bills,” obtained from a whistleblower, and launched our ALECexposed.org website in July 2011.

We haven’t quite made ALEC a household name, but we have pulled back the curtain on this corporate bill mill and its extreme agenda in a way that is making a lot of very big corporations very uncomfortable.
The Center for Media and Democracy's websites are PR Watch, SourceWatch, BanksterUSA, ALECexposed and Food Rights Network.

"Voter-registration forms are being sent to Virginia residents and addressed to deceased relatives, children, family pets and others ineligible to vote.

The errant mailings from the Washington-based nonprofit group Voter Participation Center"

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Hmmm... do you think the "Voter Participation Center" is sending these voter registration forms to Republicans? Or Democrats? They are sending these forms FILLED OUT ALREADY, so the democrats they are sending them to just have to sign them and mail them in. BOOM! Dead people, registered.

And then... when you ask to see an ID when someone comes in to vote, they will call you a racist. (because, as the chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee says... the effort it takes to get ID is just too much for black people)

probably a false flag right wing effort to discredited opposition to ALEC exposed initiatives chris

chris, so you think dems are sending filled out forms to dems so dems will register to vote dems who are already dems then/ is that what you are saying?

so, if my dog, who was named Ralph, not Fido or Rex or Spot, got one of these in the mail, and i signed it Ralph, and went to vote, and wasnt asked for ID, that would be ok?
Stew, between this and ACORNs 400k "fraudulant registrations", where does it point?

GOP officials in Arizona hopped on the birther train, but have ignored a ring of organizations paid by the Republican Party to engage in voter fraud in the state. In California, Republicans are being investigated for intentionally filing thousands of invalid voter registration forms. Wisconsin Republicans engaged in fraud to get voters to sign petitions opposing the recall of Scott Walker.

There was the high profile case of Mitt Romney committing voter fraud when he voted for Scott Brown in 2010. In Wisconsin, the legislative aide who worked for the architect of the state’s voter ID bill was charged with voter fraud, and in Indiana, the Republican chief election officer for the state was charged and convicted of voter fraud.
http://www.politicususa.com/republican-slithers-asked-provide-examples-voter-fraud.html

Voter fraud is extremely rare. Studies show that fraud occurs an average of 0.00004%-0.0009% of the time, but when voter fraud occurs, it is likely that it is a Republican who will be charged.

Evidence of Massive REPUBLICAN VOTER Fraud
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/26/1048946/-Evidence-of-Massive-REPUBLICAN-VOTER-Fraud

hmm lets see, muni court is in session, who doesnt comment here during muni court times?

nick in answer to your above about investigations? maybe cause they are too busy running around investigaying this crowd? I dunno?
http://www.republicanoffenders.com/

THANK YOU ROB, after 218 posts and still counting, you summed it up the best !!! Can we ALL stop now ?

Pennsylvania Admits They Can't Document Voter Fraud
No investigations. No prosecutions. Not even one. As has been said over and over and over, Voter ID is a solution without a problem, and so now Pennsylvania has passed a Voter ID law which could bar as many as 700,000 legal voters from casting a ballot. Seven. Hundred. Thousand.
http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/pennsylvania-admits-they-cant-document-vote

Bid to forestall voter ID law given hearing in Harrisburg
A coalition of people and organizations is arguing in Commonwealth Court that the law will disenfranchise as many as 1 million eligible voters who are unable to obtain an approved form of photo identification. Among the people they say could be stopped from voting is Leila Stones, a 53-year-old Philadelphia resident born at home in Virginia. Ms. Stones told the court she has tried without success to obtain a record of her birth that would allow her to receive an ID to vote.
http://www.individual.com/storyrss.php?story=160823343&hash=366003b001d82a325b23976d45090f70

Charlie Crist Blasts Rick Scott's 'Unconscionable' Voter Suppression Tactics
"Anytime that you put more impediments into a citizen's right -- a legal citizen's right to vote and make that more difficult, you impede the natural right of democracy and a citizen's right to have their voice heard in important elections."
"It's just plain wrong," he added.
Crooks and Liars.com

Romney Campaign Joins Voter Suppression Efforts In Virginia
As usual, the right wing is determined to invent a problem so they can apply a solution like Voter ID
Crooks and Liars.com

meh...im done...you have your opinion, i have mine...

Chris atleast you have commented honestly in a way that reflects how you see the issue, and you have avoided the ad hominem we see so much of from lesser personalities who will not even use their true and correct real names.
Like farmers across a great valley, we need each other to cross polinate the fields of our political harvest.

Republican candidate quits after companion caught voting while dead
A Republican candidate for supervisor in Pinal County, Arizona has with withdrawn following allegations that his former companion continued to cast absentee ballots five years after her death.
In a statement issued by his attorneys, John Enright said he was quitting “for several reasons, including an almost year-long battle with cancer,” but did not address the voter fraud allegations, according the The Arizona Republic.
rawstory.com

Republican candidate quits after companion caught voting while dead
A Republican candidate for supervisor in Pinal County, Arizona has with withdrawn following allegations that his former companion continued to cast absentee ballots five years after her death.
In a statement issued by his attorneys, John Enright said he was quitting “for several reasons, including an almost year-long battle with cancer,” but did not address the voter fraud allegations, according the The Arizona Republic.
rawstory.com

AARP has 2.7 million members in Pennsylvania, but 570,000 of them do not have the required ID to be eligible to vote. “They have photo IDs, they’ve been voting for years, they’ve been carrying on with their business, being able to do whatever they need to do with the ID that they have in their pockets.”
Linwood Alford, Chairman of the Beaver/Lawrence Central Labor Council stated, “the law is part of a plan that’s designed to suppress and oppress voters, to separate us, and to steal, kill and destroy: steal votes, kill unions and destroy the middle class.” Alford urged those in attendance to recruit as many as possible to take the free bus trip to Harrisburg.
http://newpittsburghcourieronline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7709:pa-naacp-leads-rally-against-voter-id-law&catid=38:metro&Itemid=27

Former FL GOP chair says ‘right-wing crazies’ want to suppress black vote
Former Florida Republican Party Chair Jim Greer testified in a lawsuit filed against his former party that “whack-a-do, right-wing crazies” wanted to suppress the black vote through Voter ID and tactics like current state Gov. Rick Scott’s efforts to purge voter rolls, according to reporting in the the Tampa Bay Times on Thursday.

“I was upset because the political consultants and staff were talking about voter suppression and keeping blacks from voting. It had been one of those days,” he testified in the 630-page affidavit that spans two days of deposition about a fundraising meeting with party general counsel Jason Gonzalez, political consultant Jim Rimes and Eric Eikenberg, Crist’s chief of staff. Rimes denies the discussion concerned voter suppression to the Times, and Eikenberg did nto return the paper’s phone calls.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/27/former-fl-gop-chair-says-right-wing-crazies-want-to-suppress-black-vote/

Pennsylvania election official will defy voter ID law
It was recently estimated that some 20% of state residents — and up to 43% of Philadelphians — do not have the required identification, and the vast majority of them are presently unaware that they may be ineligible to vote next fall.
There is widespread criticism of the law, and not only among Democrats. A Republican inspector of elections in Radnor Township, Jane Golas, points out that the same standard of proof is not required for absentee ballots. “This is a move by people to suppress the vote in the city of Philadelphia,” she stated. “We never had an issue with people coming in to fraudulently vote.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/27/pennsylvania-election-official-will-defy-voter-id-law/

Limbaugh: Don’t tell ‘people on welfare when the election is’

Froomkin to media: Tell people the truth about voter ID laws
By Susie Madrak
Dan Froomkin really lets the media establishment have it for not pointing out the nefarious agenda behind voter ID laws. I live in a city where the two local papers have been aggressively covering the issue, but I'm not seeing it on the national news. Gee, I wonder if it has anything to do with protecting their own corporate interests?

This is not simply another gratuitously partisan act by the GOP. This is an attack on the very notion of democracy. The voter ID push, along with intimidation of voter registration groups and purges of voter rolls have only one goal: blocking legitimate but probably Democratic voters from exercising their constitutional rights. It is a poll tax with a new twist.

And the pursuit of this goal ostensibly in the name of voter fraud is an outrageous deception that only works if the press is too timid to call it what it really is.

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/froomkin-media-tell-people-truth-abou

How is it you follow a blog with anonymous posters like SilentPatriot and Noony Mouse, yet you disparage others on this website? How about this fact for you about Crooks and Liars "the site frequently features clips from cable programs such as The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, The Colbert Report, Hardball with Chris Matthews, The Rachel Maddow Show (TV series), and Countdown with Keith Olbermann." And you cry about fair and balanced.

uhm....countdown with keith olberman has been off the air for quite some time Bill?
and you forgot ed shultz? lol

The Dems have been playing this game for years. Corruption at the voting booth is much higher in blue states. Dems get votes 2 ways. 1. Entitlement programs as part of their Socio-economic politics and 2. Voting early and often with illegals and dead people. I wonder how many illegals will be voting in my home County of Cook in Chicago? I am sure my Mother and Dad will be voting a few times for the Democratic candidates this November and they have been dead for over 7 years.

Voter ID Law ‘A Bad Solution Looking For A Problem’ :

Philly Mayor: Pennsylvania Voter ID Law ‘A Bad Solution Looking For A Problem’
We should all certainly be concerned about the integrity of the voting process, there are a lot of ways to ensure that,”.
“But it clearly appears to me that this is one of the most frustrating, confusing, and — at the moment at least — poorly implemented solutions to a problem that we’re not even sure what it is, ultimately, that we’re trying to prevent or going to prevent,” Nutter added, referring to the state’s lack of evidence of in-person voter fraud.
TPM.com

Voter Fruad Study Aurhored By Republican Who Pleaded Guilty In Abramoff Scandal: A new paper claiming that voter ID laws actual protect rather than disenfranchise minority voters is getting play in conservative circles. What isn’t being mention so much is the background of the paper’s author.
Horace Cooper, the author of the paper, told the Daily Caller this week that voter fraud “criminals — more often than not — are Democrats violating the rights of people who tend to be black or senior.”
Cooper may not have any expertise on voter fraud, but he does know a thing or two about falsifying documents. Cooper was indicted in 2009 on five public corruption charges, charged with exchanging political favors for gifts from Jack Abramoff. Cooper allegedly accepted bribes as a staffer to former Majority Leader Dick Armey, as chief of staff for Voice of America and when he worked for the Department of Labor. Cooper later pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of falsifying a disclosure report and was sentenced to 36 months of probation.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/voter_fraud_study_horace_cooper_jack_abramoff.php?ref=fpa

Hearing scheduled on NJ's license ID requirements
Friday August 3, 2012, 9:16 AM
Associated Press TRENTON — A judge is scheduled to hear arguments on the constitutionality of New Jersey's tougher new ID requirements for getting or renewing a driver's license.The judge ordered the program halted in May

Fox News falsely implies Obama curtailing military voting in Ohio
The issue stems from the Republican-controlled legislature’s decision late last year to alter early voting procedures. In the past, all voters could cast ballots in the three days prior to the election. But under the new law, only members of the military would be allowed to vote through the Monday immediately before the election, while early voting for non-military citizens would end the previous Friday.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/04/fox-news-falsely-implies-obama-curtailing-military-voting-in-ohio/

Romney Falsely Accuses Obama Campaign Of Trying To Restrict Military Voting Rights
The Romney campaign is arguing that the Obama camp is actually trying to limit military voting. And his supporters are eating the claim up on Facebook, where Romney posted the claim. But as the day goes by even rightwing commentators seem to be realizing that this is simply a lie.

Josh Marshal TPM.com

Try checking past facts about voter issues that ARE fact
www.courthousenews.com?2012/16/44779.htm
www.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/094615p.pdf
The RNC is the only party that had so many proven claims against it for race based voter incidents that it voluntarily entered into a consent order to be monitored for 30 years to keep it under control. They are not allowed to institute any voter fraud tactics or ballot monitoring with pre-clearance under this order. The RNC never tried to appeal this order for 25 years until Obama was elected, then they wanted it overturned and were denied. So this task was given to its cohorts as to keep its own hands clean. ALEC, Judicial Watch, then given to the Tea Parties all at the same time, where the honest folk then labeled it "grassroots" somehow. The amount of people being cleaned off of voter lists wrongfully out number the amount of voter fraud anywhere. The majority of voter fraud occurs at the top levels, by those in charge of ballot counts, and that is what sways elections. Yet as we all learned with the Florida hanging chad debacle, and Bush's disputed victory, those kinds of voter fraud are ignored for the Republicans benefit from it. Individual voter fraud, the tiniest percentage of the problem, does seem to benefit the Democratic party. So- if this is really an issue of concern, and people really want to fix the problem, why are they chasing the mouse around the room and ignoring the "elephant" in it?

During the 1981 New Jersey gubernatorial election, the DNC, the New Jersey Democratic State Committee (“DSC”), Virginia L. Peggins, and Lynette Monroe brought an action against the RNC, the New Jersey Republican State Committee (“RSC”), John A. Kelly, Ronald Kaufman, and Alex Hurtado, alleging that the RNC and RSC targeted minority voters in an effort to intimidate them in violation of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 (“VRA”), 42 U.S.C. §§ 1971, 1973, and the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States. The RNC allegedly created a voter challenge list by mailing sample ballots to individuals in precincts with a high percentage of racial or ethnic minority registered voters and, then, including individuals whose postcards were returned as undeliverable on a list of voters to challenge at the polls. The RNC also allegedly enlisted the help of off-duty sheriffs and police officers to intimidate voters by standing at polling places in minority precincts during voting with “National Ballot Security Task Force” armbands. Some of the officers allegedly wore firearms in a visible manner.

Ballot Security Task ForceFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The National Ballot Security Task Force was a controversial group founded in 1981 by the Republican National Committee located in New Jersey, as a means to win a gubernatorial election. The Ballot Security Task Force was alleged to have carried out 'voter-suppression' and intimidation.The task force consisted of a group of armed, off-duty police officers wearing armbands.
On New Jersey's election day in 1981, the BSTF posted large signs, without identification but with an official appearance, reading

WARNING

THIS AREA IS BEING PATROLLED BY THE
NATIONAL BALLOT
SECURITY TASK FORCE
IT IS A CRIME TO FALSIFY A BALLOT OR
TO VIOLATE ELECTION LAWS
Armed officers in the task force were drawn from the ranks of off-duty county deputy sheriffs and local police, who prominently displayed revolvers, two-way radios, and BSTF armbands. BSTF patrols challenged and questioned voters at the polls.

Axelrod calls out Wallace over false claim about blocking military voters
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/05/axelrod-calls-out-wallace-over-false-claim-about-blocking-military-voters/
“I absolutely do and the way you stated it and the way, frankly, Gov. Romney has stated it is completely false and misleading,” Axelrod shot back. “What that lawsuit calls for is not to deprive the military of the right to vote on the final weekend of the campaign — of course they should have that right. What that suit is about is whether the rest of Ohio should have the same right.”

“And I think it’s shameful that Gov. Romney would hide behind our servicemen and women to try and win a lawsuit to try and deprive other Ohioans of their right to vote,” he added.

Hannity Shamelessly Promoting Romney Lie About Military Voting In Ohio
The game is up on the falsehoods about the Obama campaign's lawsuit to restore early voting in Ohio, but that hasn't deterred Sean Hannity from lying about it.

On August 6, PolitiFact Ohio gave a rating of "false" to Mitt Romney's statement that the Obama lawsuit is challenging voting privileges for the military. Nevertheless, the same night, Hannity used his Fox News show to pound home the falsehood.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/08/07/hannity-still-shamelessly-promoting-romney-lie/189166

Hannity teased his report by saying that Romney is hitting Obama over a lawsuit to "limit the number of days armed service members can vote" -- a statement that is in no way true.

If the right wing can't count on your vote, they don't want your vote to count.

Ohio Changes Voting Hours To Discourage Urban Voters Ohio has introduced a new tactic in their broader attempts to make it even harder for Democratic voters to get to the polls this year. Early voting stations in Ohio’s heavily Democratic counties will only be open between 8 am and 5 pm, while Republican counties have expanded their hours to allow voting on nights and weekends.This rule is the latest in a broader attack on voting rights in Ohio, which often comes down to a tiny margin of votes. Ohio Republicans are currently ensconced in a legal battle with the Obama campaign over another new rule that would limit early voting in the three day period before the election exclusively to military families. Mitt Romney falsely claims Obama’s lawsuit is meant to take away voting rights from military families, when in fact he is simply trying to restore voting rights to all Ohio residents. Early voting was introduced to mitigate Ohio’s notoriously chaotic elections, in which thousands of votes are tossed due to clerical errors and bureaucratic confusion.
Starting October 1st, voters in Democrat-leaning urban centers including Cleveland, Columbus, Akron and Toledo will now only be allowed to vote between 8 am and 5 pm on weekdays
By Susie Madrak C&L.com

In-person voter fraud ‘virtually non-existent’: report
The type of in-person voter fraud that voter ID laws are meant to protect against are virtually non-existent, according to a report by the Carnegie-Knight News21 program.

“Voter fraud at the polls is an insignificant aspect of American elections,” said elections expert David Schultz, professor of public policy at Hamline University School of Business in St. Paul. “There is absolutely no evidence that (voter impersonation fraud) has affected the outcome of any election in the United States, at least any recent election in the United States.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/13/in-person-voter-fraud-virtually-non-existent-report/

"Virtually non-existent" is completely different than has "affected the outcome of any election in the United States, at least any recent election in the United States". So that means there is voter fraud but it isnt that bad to swing an election. From the prestigious Hamline University School of Business in St. Paul as reported by the ever popular and hard hitting Carnegie-Knight News21 program. Geez, where we go for facts these days.

Obama Prevails: Ohio voter schedule made unifom throughout the state

Federal Court Rules Florida’s Shortening Of Early Voting Discriminates Against Blacks

The Voter Repression Industrial Complex
David Kurtz- August 17, 2012, 2:15 PM 254In the years we’ve been covering the great voter fraud bamboozle, the same people turn up over and over again. Longtime readers well remember former Bush DOJer Hans von Spakovsky. He’s an old hat at the voter fraud alarmism game, so it was natural I suppose for Gov. Rick Scott to turn to him for help defending Florida’s big, misguided voter roll purge. Ryan Reilly has the story.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/08/the_voter_repression_industrial_complex.php?ref=fpblg

TPM.com

Ohio GOP: We shouldn’t accommodate African-American voters
An Ohio election official who had voted against the weekend voting hours that more than 200,000 Ohioans made use of during the 2008 election suggested on Sunday that he saw the extended hours as an unnecessary “contortion” of the voting process designed to benefit African-Americans.
Doug Priesse, who is the chairman of the Franklin County Republican Party and a member of that county’s Board of Elections, told the Columbus Dispatch, “I guess I really actually feel we shouldn’t contort the voting process to accommodate the urban — read African-American — voter-turnout machine. … Let’s be fair and reasonable.”
He also described Democratic charges of unfairness as “bullshit” and added, “Quote me!.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/19/ohio-gop-official-we-shouldnt-try-to-accommodate-african-american-voters/

Ohio suspends election board members who pushed for extra voting hours

The Fake Voter Fraud Epidemic and the 2012 Election
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/08/the_fake_voter_fraud_epidemic_and_the_2012_electio.php?ref=fpblg

Takin’ On The Voter Fraud Bamboozlers
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/08/takin_on_the_voter_fraud_bamboozlers.php?ref=fpblg

Pa. Wants Voter ID Supreme Court Hearing Delayed
The state of Pennsylvania doesn't think it is necessary for Pennsylvania's Supreme Court to rush into a hearing on the state's controversial voter ID law next month, writing in a filing on Tuesday that the hearing can wait until just a few weeks before the election.

Pennsylvania wrote in the court filing that scheduling arguments for the October 2012 term in Pittsburgh "is more realistic than attempting to schedule it for the September term in Philadelphia, which is less than three weeks away and which has alread been extended to include a full day of argument regarding the redistricting cases." The state suggested that the hearings be scheduled for the week of Oct. 15, just three weeks before the election.

ACLUPA's Vic Walczak told TPM that the state knows that October would be too late for anything to change before Election Day.

"Mid-October is too late and I'm sure the state realizes that. They would justifiably come in and say 'regardless of what you do, court, it's too late to change anything now'." Walczak said. "The closer you get to Election Day, the harder it is to make any changes."
TPM.com

how shamelessly conservatives lie: No Evidence Of Voter Fraud, But That Won't Stop Republicans
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/no-evidence-voter-fraud-wont-stop-rep

Elections in the Hands of the Partisan and Incompetent
Over the weekend, Doug Preisse, chair of the Republican Party in Franklin County, Ohio, explained that he had no interest in “contorting” early voting rules in his county to “accommodate the urban–read African-American – voter turnout machine.”

The sentiment was not unusual coming from a partisan Republican but the context was: Preisse also serves as a member of the county’s election board, along with another Republican and two Democrats. He had voted against extending early voting. The board sets many of the rules for the counting and casting of votes and resolves election disputes. Ohio Secretary of State, Jon Husted, a Republican elected official, breaks election board ties throughout the state. The battle over voter identification laws is only one front in the voting wars. Today, we turn our attention to the issue of who runs our elections and how they do it. We are one of the only mature democratic nations to allow partisans to run our elections, and to give local officials, often underfunded and sometimes incompetent, control over key aspects of the voting process. TPM.com

Pot Meet Kettle: Pennsyvania responds to DOJ on voter id accusing DOJ of politcal motivation, Penn supreme Court sets Sept 13th expidited court date.

Ohio Secretary Of State Backs Down On Early Voting
Updated: September 7, 2012, 3:33 PM After being summoned to court by a federal judge, Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted on Friday backed away from his order that would have banned counties from planning for early voting. Husted’s original order had essentially ignored a ruling by U.S. District Judge Peter Economus, who declared that the state couldn’t take away early voting in the three days before the election. Economus sided with the Obama campaign, which sued Ohio

Conservatives may use new voter ID laws to challenge Voting Rights Act
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/09/constitutional-law-expert-conservatives-may-use-new-voter-id-laws-to-challenge-voting-rights-act/

Ohio election officials fired over voting hours sue to get jobs back
CLEVELAND (Reuters) - Two Ohio election officials fired for trying to extend voting in the final weekend before the November election in their county that includes Democratic-leaning Dayton, filed a federal lawsuit Monday seeking restoration to their former positions.

Dennis Lieberman and Tom Ritchie, both Democrats, contend Republican Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted unjustly fired them after they defied his statewide restriction and proposed that Montgomery County have extended voting hours.

Most of the changes were repealed after early voting backers threatened to put the issue to a referendum. Military members, who tend to vote Republican, continued to have the right to vote in-person the last three days before the election.

A federal judge in late August granted a preliminary injunction ordering that in-person voting be allowed during the last three days before the election. Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine has appealed the ruling to a federal appeals court.

Dem drops out of race after allegations of voting in two states. Funny how you couldn't find this article on voter fraud, Stew.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bs-md-wendy-rosen-withdraws-20120910,0,3764352.story

yeah phil gop fraud is much more easy to find after all: http://republicanoffenders.com/

Library cards may serve as ID for illegal immigrants L.A. considers joining other cities that offer identification to illegal immigrants and others who cannot get driver's licenses.
LATimes.com

http://www.truthaboutfraud.org/pdf/TruthAboutVoterFraud.pdf
Missouri
In some ways, the recent hunt for voter fraud began in Missouri in the 2000 election, the crucible that proved formative for Attorney General John Ashcroft and Senator Kit Bond, among others. Yet despite all the frenzy, the allegations yielded only six substantiated cases of Missouri votes cast by ineligible voters, knowingly or unknowingly, except for those votes permitted by court order. The six cases were double votes by four voters—two across state lines and two within Missouri—amounting to an overall rate of 0.0003%. None of these problems could have been resolved by requiring photo ID at the polls.
New Jersey
Just before the 2005 election, partisan actors attempted to probe the accuracy of New Jersey’s voter rolls by comparing election records for 2004 with death records and with the rolls of other states. The allegations yielded only eight substantiated cases of individuals knowingly casting invalid votes that counted—eight voters who voted twice. Given the number of votes cast in these elections, this amounts to a rate of 0.0004%. None of these problems could have been resolved by requiring photo ID at the polls.

Coverage by Existing Law:
• The federal Help America Vote Act (HAVA) requires states to create statewide electronic voter registration lists, and to coordinate those computerized lists with agency records on death in order to remove ineligible voters. Although the obligation to remove deceased voters from the rolls predated HAVA, the computerized registration rolls — if implemented with suitable controls for accuracy—offer a new and efficient means to do so statewide. Like most states, New Jersey did not have a HAVA-ready statewide database up and running in 2004, but once it does, the database should allow the state both to eliminate duplicate registrations within the state and to cut down on the number of deceased citizens who are still on the rolls.

CNBC’s Jim Cramer: My dad ‘won’t be allowed to vote’ in Pennsylvania
Jim Cramer, host of CNBC’s “Mad Money,” revealed Tuesday that the Republican Party’s voter suppression efforts will prevent his own father, a veteran, from casting a ballot this fall in Pennsylvania.
“I have a problem,” Cramer said on Twitter Tuesday morning. “My dad, a vet, won’t be allowed to vote in Pa. because he does not drive, he is elderly, and can’t prove his citizenship.”
That would mean Cramer’s father is one of nearly 760,000 voters, or about 9 percent of Pennsylvanians who regularly participate in elections, who the state said does not carry a state-issued photo identification. Despite that alarming statistic, a Republican Pennsylvania judge approved the law last month, saying that voters still have time to obtain their ID cards.

How Jim Cramer Solved His Dad’s Voter ID Mess In 7 Hours
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/jim_cramer_dad_voter_id_solved.php?ref=fpb

Maddow: New voter ID laws ensure only the famous have the right to vote
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/12/maddow-new-voter-id-laws-ensure-only-the-famous-have-the-right-to-vote/
Cramer also said on Twitter that the state department of transporation had promised to help his father, who had “waited and waited” during two prior trips to a Department of Motor Vehicles office without getting the proper identification, not unlike thousands of other regular Pennsylvanians.

Pharmaceutical giant Merck to leave ALEC
http://wayne.patch.com/articles/residents-trying-to-clean-up-voter-rolls

Kansas Birther Drops Complaint About Obama Eligibility

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court cast serious doubt on the state’s voter ID law on Tuesday, ordering a lower court to rethink its decision upholding the law earlier this year.

In a 4-2 ruling, the justices ordered the lower court to block the law unless Pennsylvania can prove it is currently providing “liberal access” to photo identification cards and that there “will be no voter disenfranchisement” on Election Day.

The ruling said there was a “disconnect” between what the law prescribes and how it was actually being implemented. It said an “ambitious effort” to implement identification procedures in a short timeframe “has by no means been seamless in light of the serious operational constraints faced by the executive branch.”

Penn Supreme Court sends voter ID law back for review

California luanches online voter registration system

Penn. state Rep.: Photo ID law only disenfranchises the ‘lazy’ 47 percent

In a few short decades, new automotive technology might eliminate the need for drivers to wait at red lights. It may eliminate the need for steering wheels.

It may even eliminate the need for drivers to carry licenses.

Those are some of the bold predictions coming from members of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, which predicts that 3 of 4 cars on the road will be driverless by 2040.

Claims of 30,000 incidents of mass voter fraud using deceased names debunked by NC Board of Election Veronica Degraffenreid who found NO Incidents as reported by: Voter Integrity Project of North Carolina.

(N.C. Sec of State Search found VIP to be registered as a business and NOT a NON PROFIT as represented )
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Voter fraud rare as ‘winning the lottery’ Voting expert to Shepard Smith

Tea party groups trying to steal election via voter purges
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/21/maddow-tea-party-groups-trying-to-steal-election-via-voter-purges/

Pennsylvania law ‘a tax’ on women voters
According to the state’s controversial voter identification law, women who have changed their last name must present two forms of identification — the state voter ID issued by the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation (PennDOT) and a separate government-issued ID or driver’s license. By comparison, male voters only need the former.

There’s officially a tax on being a woman in Pennsylvania if you want to vote

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/22/harris-perry-pennsylvania-law-a-tax-on-women-voters/

Today, PA Lower Court Will Hear Voter ID Case Again

RNC-Backed Company Accused Of Voter Registration Fraud
Palm Beach County Elections Supervisor Susan Bucher said she turned the applications over to law enforcement officials because of similar-looking signatures, missing information and wrong addresses on the forms. The questionable applications were part of a batch of 304 voter registration forms turned in by the firm using the Republican Party of Florida’s identification number, according to the Palm Beach Post.

Mike Grissom, executive director of the Republican Party of Florida, said the party had hired a Virginia-based firm called Strategic Allied Consultants at the request of the Republican National Committee.

tpm.com

Republicans fire voter registration firm owned by Romney consultant
“Republicans are using this unethical and shady firm to try to get a leg up in this election because they know North Carolinians aren’t interested in their message of slashing education to pay for more tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires,”

Ron Reagan: Poll truthers smoking ‘giant crack pipe’ in Fox News green room
“They’re not delusional, they’re dishonest. They’re not crazy, they’re craven… What they’re trying to do here and accomplish here is to say in advance, if President Obama wins this election, it’s because the pollsters suppressed the Republican vote, it’s therefore an illegitimate election, he’s not really president. They’re setting the table for that.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/28/ron-reagan-poll-truthers-smoking-giant-crack-pipe-in-fox-news-green-room/

Malibu woman fights voter ID laws
MALIBU — Since 2008, 31 states have introduced laws that would require people to present state-sanctioned photo identification before they would be allowed to vote in state and federal elections.
While proponents say the laws are necessary to prevent voter fraud, critics charge that the new legislation is a blatant attempt to discourage participation.
One local woman has made it her goal to ensure that every eligible voter in America will be able to cast a vote on Nov. 6. Kathleen Unger worked in entertainment law for 15 years. But starting in 2002, Unger took up the issue of election integrity, founding and editing a blog called Election Preparedness.
This year she founded VoteRiders, a non-partisan, non-profit public benefit corporation dedicated to ensuring that vulnerable voters will be able to get their voter IDs in time for the election. California has no such voter ID requirement.
“There is a critical mass evolving with these voter ID laws that will absolutely prevent certain people from voting in future elections,” Unger said. “Our short-term goal is to help get every voter legitimate IDs in the next 60 days.”
The strict new laws have the potential to disenfranchise 11 percent of American voters, according to the Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law.
http://www.smdp.com/malibu-woman-fights-voter-id-laws/112462

Probe Into RNC Voter Fraud Allegations

Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) has launched an investigation into Strategic Allied Consulting and GOP consultant Nathan Sproul, who ran a voter registration drive on behalf of the Republican National Committee that turned in fraudulent applications.

Cummings asked Sproul on Monday to provide copies of all contracts and correspondence with the RNC, state political parties and other entities as well as all documents used for their voter registration training and any information about irregularities. The RNC cut off its relationship with the group last week after the allegations emerged.

“Instead of the RNC having ‘zero tolerance’ for voter fraud, you claimed that RNC officials asked you to form your new company, Strategic Allied Consulting, in June for the specific purpose of concealing your connections to these previous allegations,” Cummings wrote in a letter to Sproul. “In a blunt concession, you reportedly stated that you ‘created Strategic Allied Consulting at the request of the Republican National Committee because of the bad publicity stemming from past allegations’.”

GOP forced to cease voter registration efforts in five of the swingiest swing states
Republicans had hired Strategic Allied Consulting to run voter registration drives in Florida, Virginia, Colorado, North Carolina and Nevada. But RNC severed ties with Strategic Allied Consulting last week after Florida officials traced possibly fake registration forms back to the company. The firm has also been accused of tearing up Democratic registration forms.

Raw Story,com

Obama says giving military personnel 3 extra days to vote unconstitutional. Just want you to stay fair and balanced Stew. Why would the commander in chief do this to our military? Must be a conspiracy by the left!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/13/obama-failing-military-voters/?page=all

Give it up jack you are not fair an balanced when you weight your comment in such a fashion, you were so close to actually being honest.
Jack 'equal protection under the law' actually means what it says I do suppose.
In your example here, We The People were actually supposed to have had their voting period shortened if I understand the matter correctly.
It is of the People, by the People and for the People after all isnt it?
I am sure this was an over reach by the GOP, if some really wanted those who serve to have more time, that might have passed muster, but to use the measure to deprive equal protection under law may have been the starw that broke the courts back?

Maybe you need to read the article for once rather than not getting passed the headline. You bemoan the GOP disenfranchising voters, yet here are active duty people not given proper time to vote. And the Prez claiming unconstitutionality when time limits are not part of the Constitution. Could this be that military personnel typically vote Republican? As usual Stew, you never let facts get in the way of your argument. Who else can the Justice Dept sue?

Jack, there you go again second guessing a decision by the courts to suit your political agenda:
"On balance, the right of Ohio voters to vote in person during the last three days prior to Election Day -- a right previously conferred to all voters by the State -- outweighs the State's interest in setting the 6 p.m. Friday deadline," ruled the court. "The burden on Ohio voters' right to participate in the national and statewide election is great, as evidenced by the statistical analysis offered by Plaintiffs and not disputed by Defendants. Moreover, the State fails to articulate a precise, compelling interest in establishing the 6 p.m. Friday deadline as applied to non-UOCAVA [Uniformed and Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act] voters and has failed to evidence any commitment to the 'exception' it rhetorically extended to UOCAVA voters."

I guess you want to second guess the highest court in the land: The Supreme Court elaborated on the highly regimented lives of those serving on active duty in the military in Middendorf v. Henry: “It is common knowledge that military life differs significantly from civilian life. Soldiers, Sailors and Marines are not free to come and go as they please. They do not make up their own work hours. They do not choose the locations of their jobs. They do not choose what clothes they will wear to work, or even how they will wear those clothes Military life — as a matter of functionality, necessity and national security — is one of regimented, controlled, ordered existence.”
And try ignoring this tidbit: Two former Justice Department Voting Rights Division officials testified to members of the Senate that Mr. Obama’s Justice Department purposefully ignored a law aimed at protecting the rights of military voters. The Military and Overseas Voter Empowerment (MOVE) Act, signed into law by President Obama, requires that states send out military absentee ballots to our troops at least 45 days before an election. According to these officials, the Justice Department was encouraging states to use waivers to bypass the MOVE Act.

jack? you're like a village idot at the dance, you dont know the song and you have two right feet, trip over yourself if you must showing yourself to be the fool in this matter. Perhaps you filing an amicus brief would have been in order. As for the moment, your argument, and I do mean argument, is moot at this time in light of the courts decision.
Hearing of no appeal to the appelate courts, nor motion to be heard by the SCOTUS? the election will certainly proceed unimpeded.

FLASH! PENN enjoined from voter ID requirement enforcement

Poll: Obama leading Romney in N.J. by 17 points

Fox & Friends Ignores Key Facts Promoting Military Voting Scare
Fox & Friends are very concerned at the low rate of requests for absentee ballots by the military – which just so happens to largely vote Republican – and they were so eager to blame the Obama administration this morning, they didn't have time for facts indicating otherwise. They were assisted in that effort by Cleta Mitchell, a major Republican operative presented merely as an “election attorney.”
http://crooksandliars.com/news-hound-ellen/fox-friends-ignores-key-facts-pro

Put final stake in heart of Voter ID law

Just in time for Halloween, an appellate court judge finally unmasked a cynical political ploy masquerading as law.

http://thetimes-tribune.com/opinion/put-final-stake-in-heart-of-voter-id-law-1.1382252?localLinksEnabled=false

I thought there was no such thing as voter fraud!
Essex County clerk admitted fraud and agreed to resign, but never did: http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2012/10/essex_county_clerk_admitted_fr.html#incart_river_default.

Jack the issue is evolving, and it would appear the republican machine is the great satan when it comes to voter fraud, please take the time to review all of the above I have deposited here in the interest of disclosure?
Locally Councilwoman Mz Bello's husband was also barred from holding public positions. But had been anyway.
Disregarding court orders seems to be the rule and not the exception some times here in NJ.

Not going to argue with you on Bello's husband. But lets agree to agree that its not a GOP or Dem issue, its an issue all over.

Voter ID battle moves to South Carolina after Pennsylvania ruling
nah, its a gop issue jack, thanks for trying lol
Some of the judges made the thought that political skulduggery explicit in their
deliberations. A federal judge, Robert Hinkle, was scathing about a provision introduced by Florida that would penalise charities if they lodged new voter registrations with election officials more than 48 hours after they were completed.

Striking down the provision, Hinkle said: “If the goal is to discourage voter-registration drives and thus also to make it harder for new voters to register, the 48-hour deadline may succeed. But if the goal is to further the state’s legitimate interests without unduly burdening the rights of voters and voter registration organizations, 48 hours is a bad choice.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/03/voter-id-battle-moves-to-south-carolina-after-pennsylvania-ruling/

The Strategic GOP debacle, as a result, is the last thing Romney and the GOP needed in Florida – especially with polls showing Obama with healthy leads in other battleground states like Ohio. In many of those states, in fact, judges keep striking down new Republican-led voter restriction laws, including the Pennsylvania voter ID measure that a state court blocked on Tuesday. One shouldn’t attribute too much of the Sunshine State woes to the anti-voter fraud drive; it’s just one component of what’s ailing Romney and the GOP, including Romney’s own gaffes. But if Republicans were counting on strategies like the voter-roll purge to give them an electoral edge, it may well have backfired.

Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2012/10/03/did-the-anti-voter-fraud-crusade-undermine-the-gop-in-florida/#ixzz28FhxpR1u

Open Records Lawsuit Filed Against ALEC Members
uh-oh here comes da judge!

League of Women Voters of New Jersey is putting the word out that the state’s voting laws haven’t changed.

A misinformation email being distributed , which says that “the rules have changed” and warns that residents who haven’t voted since the last presidential election in 2008 have to re-register, is “very upsetting to me,” League president Toni Zimmer said at a press conference this morning.

She added that her group’s toll-free voting hotline has been “ringing off the hook.”
Anyone with voting questions can call the League of Women Voters hotline, at 800-792-VOTE.

http://www.northjersey.com/news/NJ_voting_advocates_seek_to_clear_up_misinformation.html

New Mexico Republican official caught training polls challengers to suppress votes
ProgressNow New Mexico on Wednesday published video of a September 26th official “Poll Challenger Training,” in which former Republican Sandoval County Commission candidate Pat Morlen misinformed voters about ID requirements and assistance for Spanish-speaking citizens.

Congressman opens voting rights probe of tea party group

Court orders Ohio to restore early voting for all residents

Ohio Official To Appeal Early Voting Decision To SCOTUS
I wonder? what the People of Ohio must really feel about all of this?

Judge says Minnesota man with guardian can vote
http://nasga-stopguardianabuse.blogspot.com/

A conservative, a liberal, and a moderate walk into a bar and the bartender says: "HIYA, MITT!"

N.M. A.G. Investigating GOP ‘Voter Suppression’

South Carolina Voter ID Law Blocked For 2012

Fired RNC consultant preps get-out-the-vote campaign
The political consultant fired by the Republican National Committee amid fraud allegations in Florida is now hiring workers for a voter canvassing operation this fall in as many as 30 states, his spokesman said.

Nathan Sproul, whose career as a GOP get-out-the-vote consultant has been dogged by reports of fraudulent registrations, has been advertising for $15-an-hour workers for “conservative voter identification” in Virginia, Wisconsin and Iowa.

‘No experience is necessary!” says the ad, first reported by the liberal blog BlueNC. “All you need to qualify is a positive attitude and a strong work ethic to get the job done.”
latimes.com

N.J. residents still have time to register to vote for November election
TUESDAY IS THE FINAL DAY TO REGISTER!

Female Tea Party Leader Thinks Women Shouldn't Vote
Janis Lane is the president of the Central Mississippi Tea Party, and she believes that women should not be allowed to vote because they are diabolical and emotional.[..]

Our country might have been better off if it was still just men voting. There is nothing worse than a bunch of mean, hateful women. They are diabolical in how than can skewer a person.

TPM.com

Supreme Court rejects Ohio appeal on early voting

L.A.-Council panel OKs ID cards for illegal immigrants
The new card would help immigrants open bank accounts and access city servies. The L.A. City Council committee agrees to solicit vendor bids to handle the program.

AZ Voter ID Cards List Incorrect Date for General Election

Virginia GOP Caught Throwing Away Voter Registrations

Feds to probe possible voter fraud in Florida - Letters go out to Republicans who consistently vote in election. Gee Stew, did the GOP send these out too?

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Feds-to-probe-possible-voter-fraud-in-Florida/-/1637132/17086510/-/5x9wgrz/-/index.html

Arizona’s Maricopa County tells Spanish-speaking voters to vote two days late

VOING IS A RIGHT NOT A CRIME

The GOP thought the white, male vote would be enough to win this election. They were wrong.

Republicans ‘Test’ For Voting Fraud, Wind Up In Custody http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/11/republicans_voter_fraud_tests.php via @TPM

New Jersey Man Under Investigation For Voter Fraud ‘Test’
Voters cast their ballots in New York in Washington Heights on election day on 75-year-old New Jersey man is under investigation by prosecutors in Cumberland County for casting two ballots in what he said was a test for voter fraud.

Clarence Custis called the Cumberland County Board of Elections on Nov. 7 to report that he had voted at the clerk’s office and a second time in his hometown of Fairfield, the South Jersey Times reported late Wednesday.

“I was hoping that I would get flagged when I went to vote,” Custis told the paper. “I first went to the courthouse and filled out a mail-in ballot at the County Clerk’s office. Then I went to Gouldtown to vote like I normally would. I figured I would be flagged. But I wasn’t.”

The Cumberland County Prosecutor’s Office confirmed to the South Jersey Times that it was investigating the incident. Liz Hernandez, county Board of Elections administrator, said her office would have detected the double vote but said Custis’ ballot hadn’t been counted yet.

Florida Republicans Admit Voter Suppression Was The Goal Of New Election Laws
By Aviva Shen on Nov 26, 2012 at 9:53 am
Floridians endured election chaos and marathon voting lines this year, largely thanks to reduced early voting hours, voter purges, and voter registration restrictions pushed by Republican legislators. In an exclusive report by the Palm Beach Post, several prominent Florida Republicans are now admitting that these election law changes were geared toward suppressing minority and Democratic votes.
Former governor Charlie Crist (R-FL) and former GOP chairman Jim Greer (R-FL), as well as several current GOP members, told the Post that Republican consultants pushed the new measures as a way to suppress Democratic voters. Crist expanded early voting hours in 2008 despite party pressure, but Gov. Rick Scott (R-FL) targeted early voting almost immediately when he took office in 2011. Scott’s administration claimed the new laws were meant to curb in-person voter fraud, despite the fact that an individual in Florida is more likely to be struck by lightning than commit voter fraud.
Current party members and consultants confirmed the motive was not to stop voter fraud but to make it harder for Democrats and minorities to vote
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/11/26/1234171/florida-republicans-admit-voter-suppression-was-the-goal-of-new-election-laws/

How The Voter ID Crusade Backfired On Republicans
Evan McMorris-Santoro
The Republican push to make it more difficult to vote this year — seen by many as a racially tinged attempt to keep Democratic turnout down — could not have failed more spectacularly, a top African American activist told a left-leaning think tank Tuesday.

Chanelle Hardy, a vice president at the National Urban League, told an audience at the Center For American Progress in Washington that, as conservatives had suspected, there was a drop-off in enthusiasm among the African American electorate between 2008 and 2012. Republicans based a lot of their strategy on enthusiasm dips like these, assuming that Obama wouldn’t be able to maintain the same level of minority turnout he had enjoyed in 2008.

Unfortunately for those Republican strategists’ plans, however, other Republicans in legislatures across the country were on a quest to impose restrictions on voting, chasing the ghost of in-person voter fraud.

New Mexico Man Charged In Voter Fraud ‘Test’
Ryan J. Reilly
Authorities in New Mexico on Monday charged a man with one count of fraudulent and double voting for allegedly trying to cast two ballots on Election Day in an apparent attempt to test the integrity of the system.

Marshall Fischer, 40, of Silver City, N.M. was taken into police custody on Election Day after he allegedly voted at a polling place in Santa Clara, N.M., obtained a provisional ballot at the same location and announced he was trying to test for voter fraud. Police declined to release his name until this week when the Grant County District Attorney's Office charged him with the fourth-degree felony.

Santa Clara, N.M. Police Chief Lonnie Sandoval told TPM last month that Fischer was trained as a poll watcher by the Grant County Republican Party. Fischer did not immediately respond to an interview request.

Supreme Court Rejects GOP Attempt To Overturn Voter Intimidation Order
Pema Levy - 11:22 AM EST, Monday January 14, 2013
The Supreme Court on Monday rejected an effort by the Republican National Committee to overturn a 30-year old court order aimed at protecting minority voters from intimidation, the Associated Press reports.

The order stems from a lawsuit filed by Democrats in New Jersey in 1981 that objected to a "ballot security" program the RNC ran in minority neighborhoods.

Republicans said the order hampers efforts to combat voter fraud, but U.S. District Judge Dickinson Debevoise said voter intimidation remains a threat and preventing it outweighs the potential danger of fraud.

GOP efforts to rig the Electoral College
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/02/popular-vote-republicans.php?ref=fpa

GOP Electoral Vote Scheme Still Alive And Kicking In Pennsylvania
Pileggi’s bill is slightly less far-reaching a power grab than bills proposed in states like Virginia that would have divided electoral votes by congressional district, which thanks to gerrymandering strongly favors Republicans even in states Obama won handily. This is by design: Pileggi pitched a congressional district split along the lines of the Virginia bill in 2011 only to face near-unanimous opposition from Republican members of Congress in the state who feared Democrats would pour millions of dollars into winning their individual districts. While Pileggi has shifted on the issue, a pair of Pennsylvania state representatives have also introduced a congressional split version since the election.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/02/gop-electoral-vote-scheme-still-alive-and-kicking-in-pennsylvania.php?ref=fpa

Thwart assault on Voting Rights Act or risk return to ‘old poison’: NAACP

The NAACP brief submitted to the supreme court ahead of the hearing points out that the jurisdictions covered by Section 5 have shown a consistent pattern of discriminatory behaviour. Between 1982 and 2006, the jurisdictions collectively tried to introduce 1,300 discriminatory voting measures, all of which were blocked under the Act.

Drawing on a phrase used in supreme court deliberations in the past, Adegbile said that the method of discrimination might have changed over time, but “old poison was being poured into new bottles”.

Convicted Felon Scooter Libby has voting rights restored by GOP Guv, how special?

Real voter fraud comes from Republicans

On Wednesday night’s episode of “The Ed Show,” host Ed Schultz listed off numerous actual instances of Republican-spun voter fraud schemes, mocking the seemingly perpetual paranoia many conservatives have about the community group ACORN, which doesn’t even exist anymore.

He instead recalled the executive director of the New Hampshire GOP pleading guilty to conspiring to jam phones during an election in 2002; the 2011 conviction of a Republican campaign manager in Maryland for authorizing misleading robocalls in minority districts on Election Day; and the 2012 conviction of Indiana’s Republican secretary of state for voter fraud, among other crimes.

“There’s more,” Ed said, pointing to the Republican-aligned firm Strategic Allied Consulting’s admission that two employees forged voter registration forms in Florida. “The company has been accused of multiple instances of voter fraud in several states since 2004,” he added.

“The voter fraud Republicans talk about is imaginary,” Ed concluded. “The voter fraud coming from their own party, believe me, it’s the real deal.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/07/ed-schultz-points-out-that-the-real-voter-fraud-comes-from-republicans/

“The GOP is scheming to rig the next election because they can’t win on the issues,” Ed Rendell says. “This plan will diminish Pennsylvania’s importance in future elections and its role as a swing state where candidates spend time and money focusing on issues that are important to Pennsylvanians.”

DNC Begins Robo-Calls In Pennsylvania Aimed At GOP Electoral Vote Scheme
Tom Kludt