How was the 15 million arrived at?
What damages and values?

Glad to hear it..... I only wish the people that held the "kangaroo court" could be sued personally and leave the residents out of it so the settlement will have no affect on our taxes.

I think they are being sued personally, according to the article

Is being banned to play a state sectional championship worth 15 mil? Is he going to claim emotional distress and emotional harm? Give me a break.! Obviously looking to make some money off this thing! If he is a minor, who is driving the bus here? The parents? Probably! Are they being led by this attorney? Absolutely. I would turn this letter over to both the Board of Ed's insurance carrier as well as the Township's Insurer and let them investigate and defend the matter. Defend it too the hilt.

Oh my god... Just when you think it was over... You forgot the 2 judges, the commissioner,,, and bring in the governor also... This is sooooo sad... And just to think.. They haven't even gone to court for the aggravated assault. And why are you not suing the Passaic county prosecutor? Isn't it in there hands also....

Rumor has it that the entire contiguous 48 states in the union have been named in the suit cited for "unjust criticism", for reading, listening and blogging to news reports of this fiasco.

God Bless America!

FYI- Stay tuned for more "dirt" with Andy Cohen and Bravo TV's latest rumored realty show: "Wayne, NJ - Gridiron to Courtroom"

operative word here: could

I bet a lot of people in Wayne who recently lost their homes in the floods could benefit from $15 million. But no, our taxes will now go to paying a high school teenager's parents. Great holiday sentiment.

Sorry Kate, but one game does not make a scholarship. And if by some slim chance there is that one boy that could actually get a scholarship and he is innocent, there should be other games and future games that the coaches would be making a decision on. If the boy is not innocent, its a great early red flag to the type of sportsmanship the kid has and coaches would not be interested. They get to save their money,

Will this never end??

Only $15M, why not $15B or $15 Gazillion!

All of a sudden they are called "teen-agers" and not "KID'S" any-more. It's obvious that every player on the team would have been on the side-lines for the biggest game of the year, unless of course they were suspended and banned from participating in the event. By the time the suspensions were handed down, all of the teams playing that week-end had their roster's printed in the book offered at the stadium. It was a simple matter to deduct what players were not on the field for Wayne Hills. There were a total of ten. Nine of them because they were charged with a vicious and life threatening assault on two innocent, out-standing young boys that were merely walking down the road, and one other player that was suspended for tooting his horn at a pep ralley. Personally, I think the name of the road should be changed because "URBAN CLUB"RD. is a distinct reminder of this unimaginable assault that took place.
Because of the National attention of the ordeal, the obvious deduction of players in the book provided by the NJSIAA, the lack of proper due process, the botched investigation by the Wayne Police, the inappropiate judgement by the Board of Education, and the fact that the incident was reported to the NCAA for review of the player's eligibility, a fair compensation for anyone that was arrested under false pretense should be at least 15 million. Colleges don't look at tainted goods, so they're chance of any career in the NFL are over.

Litigation the mothers milk of the "HILLS" in Wayne continues to flow. Van Peenen's Dairy Farm recently reported a 9% increase in production over the last 30 days. When reached for further comment from dairies around the state, Van Peeren gave the names of 999 attorneys in Wayne who recently signed up to pull their utters.

"An attorney representing one of the nine Wayne Hills football players charged with aggravated assault has notified several municipal and school district officials of a $15 million claim his client could file against them"

It seems like the boy's attorney is looking for a quick payday without a fight. I don't think the word "could" at this time should be of concern. Although a report from a certain dairy farm in Wayne observed, an attorney after hours in Wayne looking for extra cream.

Disgusting!

Setting aside the 15 million dollar figure, why are people cheering on the arrest and punishment of an innocent child? These kids sit in school and learn all about our great freedoms and our superior system of justice only to find out it's all a facade hiding a system of connections, politics and vendettas. NO ONE is getting 15 million dollars, no matter what WE TAXPAYERS are going to pay something for this bungled and incompetent showing by our leaders. To watch the public meetings you'd think these officials solve world hunger and cure diseases every week - "Congratulations to you councilman - oh thank you congratulations to you councilwoman - you are so wonderful - no really you are too great - well let's just say how great we all are and how well we handle everything"

It's mutual admiration society that lacks backbone, integrity or credibility. So long as they are all republican they consider themselves a success.

Truth is this is just a microcosm of all that is wrong with our society. Instead of handling this issue properly at the parent and team level and then going in and saying hey we are suspending these 6 (or 8 or however many were involved) players, and parents punishing them, the decisions was made to fight to get all 9 off suspention "all
for one and one for all" and now they want to sue because one or more may be innocent, it's a crazy time we are living in.

If they are truly innocent, maybe they should be suing the other 6, 7 or 8 other boys for not speaking up and admitting this/these boys were not involved. Don't take it out on the taxpayers.

"all for one, one for all" that is the essence of team work. Our elected officials have taken that expression and turned into "all for the republicans and the republicans for all republicans" Wayne Hills is a team, Town Hall and the School Board are supposed to looking out for ALL of Wayne rather than their own self interest.

The Board is blowing up with comments calling for the lynching of ACCUSED children yet we had a CONVICTED BRIBE TAKING EXTORTIONIST making land use recommendations and none of the new screen names had word one to say about that. Right now a DIFFERENT BRIBE TAKING EXTORTIONIST (Paul Cavliere Jr) owes more that $200,000 in restitution and the republicans are doing nothing to collect. Meanwhile that extortionist's son and former law partner is our planning board attorney. That was a conviction and the convict's partner while he was taking bribes is our planning board attorney yet the hue and cry is about firing a coach who committed no crime and actually does his job as expected. I don't know the coach but i do know a pipe job when I see one.

Pavlak said Thursday that, on the advice of Board attorney Nathanya Simon, he declined comment. Roth could not be reached for comment.

Vergano refused to comment Thursday. Reardon could not be reached
Let the backpeddling begin!!!
Liars & Cowards...

Pavlak said Thursday that, on the advice of Board attorney Nathanya Simon, he declined comment. Roth could not be reached for comment!

Vergano refused to comment Thursday. Reardon could not be reached!

Let the backpedaling begin! Liars & Cowards...

15 Million that is a joke. Unfortunately sitting out of games is part of life. 15 million in damages this judge should laugh at them. Football is a priviledge. People have there licenses taken away from them all the time for drunk driving. People accused of murder have guns that they own taken away from them. You get that stuff back when your name is cleared. Unfortunately in this case it's to late. Well unfortunately that's part of life.

I’m curious, will they also be suing the County Judge, State Judge and Education Commissioner?

Kudos to you Bill Brennan, keep up the fight against these corrupt, lying & two-faced cowards!!!

Our town officials are constantly under the "cone of silence" so it's impossible to ever get a straight answer. The Board of Ed. members are elected the same as every-where else, with the intentions of having all student doing well, by taking the roads that "they" approve of.
When you talk to our policemen, they all say that the town is a better place to live than ever before.
Then you witness, or read, or hear about incidents like this and wonder what persons "sick idea" of justice and due process was recklessly applied to this case. As for no other reason except to destroy a life, their dreams, and their future.
It makes me wonder about who did the research after the investigation, and who researched the charges before they were handed down.
Knowing the law isn't enough. Either is witness testimony under cross-examination.
This is only the first of the many law suits that are going to be filed.

Joe videodummy,

I have never read a more ignorant post than your latest diatribe. The "HILLS" football fantasy island where everyone is granted a scholarship and missing a chance at the NFL is truly worthy of a videodummy! I will add, Willy Wonka's golden tickets will not be handed out this year. Nor will the football fairy be leaving that gift under anyone's pillow.

Our society has raised enough videodummies, who never accept responsibility for missteps in their lives. Rather they rely on attorneys who lead them to believe how they were not given due process, and a pot of gold is at the end of a lawsuit The decision not to let 9 players participate in 1 football game was correct. Why? because it was only a football game!

So in our videodummies world, The BOE, Supt. of Schools, Judge Brogan, NJ DOE, the ALJ, and the Commissioner all were out to get those arrested. Once again we are left on another grassy knoll by a videodummy.

This is only a Title 59 Notice. All government entities and employees must receive same within a specified time or the person is barred from bringing a claim. You must put a monetary amount. All lawyers, like myself, put an inflated amount. The ultimate amount paid, if any paid at all, will have no relationship to the amount stated.

Thanks Andy for answering my question on post 1. Now it makes sense to me.

isn't it a bit hypocritical to call them liars and Cowards without due process. It wasn't okay to assume that any of the players were guilty but its okay to assume these people are guilty? can't have it both ways

Mr Brennan , how can you make such a definitive statement like you know something for a fact . were you there inside these boys heads to know what their intent was? My broker is at Wayne hills and his statement of facts is quite different hen yours . You have no problem convicting sone of these people without dye process but then take offense when the players had no due process. Can't u just wait for the facts before your "rush to justice" lol

Reality check for everyone: who can these people sue because something unfair happened to them? http://wayne.patch.com/blog_posts/wayne-tragedy-please-help

Missing this most important game really won't matter. If the kids weren't there, they will be cleared and life will go on, but I guess if bringing the suit makes you happy, do what you have to do. Shallow.

Why can't yall take a chill pill. Every person on this website is a troll.

Coming from a LONG line of Cider producers, I find it quite absurd that such accusations have been made unto this poor child!! Who knows where he will be able to get a college education! Perhaps if he came to the DickensCider College of Cider, we could educate him to use those football mussels to smash up apples and produce the HIGHEST quality cider, and perhaps even make his own cider company such as our closest partner, "LickensCider." Although this is quite uncertain, we must prepare all of our youth to make cider! VIVA LA REVOLUTION!

I'm sorry Joe video Dummy but I disagree with you. Ruining their future? NBot playing in a football game is not ruining anybody's future. Ron is absolutely correct. It was the right decision. Fact of the matter is you cannot send the message that Since your a football player You can get away with anything. The only people they should be mad at are them selves and if some of them are innocent the kids who did it.

Joe Videodummy,

Well videodummy I'm sorry to say my parents past away many years ago. Having said that, you're focus on the assault is where you seem to be stuck on. The arrest and charges filed where the result of a police investigation. You may not like the fact as a result some students were barred from playing in a extracurricular activity, namely a football game. You can argue due process was not served, however a process was followed within the statutes outline by the NJ DOE. The due process you speak of will come at a hearing or trial in the courts. I have no idea if those charged are guilty or innocent. What I do know, our Police Department found enough evidence to arrest and charge them. As of this moment the choice is believing a group of students at a party fighting, or the Wayne Police, I choose the Police. Once again I will remind you it was a FOOTBALL GAME they were suspended from. And they are not in jail. they are still in school, and they are still innocent of a crime until proven guilty.

A recent found collection of the written works from a renowned Wayne resident who wishes only to be known as sally singsong has been recently found and released.

These great works can be yours for the low low price of $9.99.
Such hits as
"hey dickenscider ,did jerry sandawsky tea bag you too...." was found just today in a boys locker at Penn State. When asked for comment Joe said. "I don't work there anymore" You might ask sally singsong she was always handing out tea bags in the locker room..

Other recent classics include
"hey frank i think you need a man,you have too much time on your hands,or maybe somthing else in your hands....." Rumor has it Jerry S, helped sally with the lyrics or should I say "licks"

Another find which will be added to side 2 of the special collection shows sally singsongs understanding of human nature.

"listen you effin' d-bag!! what gives you the right to talk shittt about these kids and their parents?? the formerindian...what?? waterboy?? first of all, you're right...the kids AND coaches work very hard all year round, and the parents are very dedicated. That's why it's 'a winning program' and keep flapping your toothless gums and you'll make it 20 million!!"

We all can rejoice in this holiday season that we are truly blessed that sally singsong will live on in her greatest works. Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays from
Spin Records located in the "HILLS" section of Wayne NJ

@K, these children did not grow up in Wayne. I feel sorry for them but they only lived in Wayne since March. There are many more needy families in Wayne. I believe the focus has been made to take it off the "nine football players" saga.

Bill Brennan, you wrote:
"Steve. Driving a car is also a privilege yet a license is not taken away without a hearing."

Bill, a quick look at the driving laws in NJ and you will find there are several circumstances that your license can be SUSPENDED IMMEDIATLEY, and your car impounded. Let's move away from the semantics of taken away. Which you would have us believe because your license has not been revoked, you can still drive. The fact is your license can be suspended until pending the outcome of an investigation. Which may result in a licence being REVOKED. Hopefully you will now understand the difference.

Bill there case got heard by the commissioner of education. Since there case was heard by the commissioner they got due process. As far as kids working ten years and worked very hard for this. Everybody should teach their kids that it is NOT okay to gang up on 1 or 2 people. That is something these kids should have known for over ten years. If these kids played in the football game there would be no reason to not do the same thing next time.

Bill you continuously deflect/spin like all politicians responsibility. Read your own post, my response was to you're statement a license has to be revoke before driving is suspended. Give me/us all a break, you seem incapable of connecting the dots except for the way you want them to align.

@sally singsong

Are you auditioning for a starring role? Looks like you want the join the long list of reality "FALLING STARS" making fools of themselves in NJ. Your a disgrace to civilization! Now go crawl under your football rock and join the snake pit culture your so proud to be part of.

The Carpenter's " Sing"--- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYjcNR7W-Ow

Sing............ sing a song..... ........Sing out LOUD. Sing out STRONG. Sing of GOOD things not BAD. Make it simple minded to last your whole life long! Don't worry if your not good enough for everyone else to see... just sing... sing a song! LA LA LA LA LAAAAA LA LA LA LA NAAAA NAAAAA.

To all of the people on this patch whose favorite cocktail is vinegar and water, Frank, The Kobe Bryant of Rutgers 3 on 3 1/2 court circle jerk, Dory the explory, Ira. I see you have not given it a rest. I predicted the law suits and the money it will take to fight this will be out of your property taxes, BUT on a heavier note, the outpouring of love that was displayed at WVHS for the Voit family was nothing less than amazing.
Did any of you douche bags get off the keyboard and show up? Wayne Hills stepped up big time and some of the accused were there meeting the family and donating, not to save face but because they WERE raised right. I hope they win the lawsuit but 3 children are now orphaned and you people still want to bitch about this.
Get a life

Touch a nerve Frank? I was hoping the NBA would have remained a lockout and you would have a shot.

for a Democrat, Brennan is a voice of reason and as a Republican am sorry I did not vote for Him, but in this town he does not stand much of a chance

Hehe! I voted for him. People at town hall see him walking up the sidewalk and begin to perspire. It's fun to imagine him riffling through every file cabinet, searching for all the little well kept secrets. It would cost us millions of taxpayer dollars, in law suits to expel the garbage, but it would be worth it.
Wayne residents couldn't handle the truth. Not the "real" thruth.

Mr Brennan - My brother works in that school and his take on things is quite different then yours and he likes many of the boys involved. But you still make a definitive subjective statement about what every kiids intentions were? Seems your opinion has become one-sided and government will always be WRONG and anyone challenging authority will always be right. Not the kind of role model I would want to be. And please explain how due process is so important to you...but not for these government officials..... since you have already convicted them of wrong-doing?

Navy football player suspended without due process and no day in court? blasphemous

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2011-10-06/sports/bs-sp-navy-teich-1007-20111006_1_alexander-teich-ken-niumatalolo-navy-marine-corps-memorial-stadium

Mr brennan - you can try to twist words all you want, but keep posting so your true colors are exposed for all to see. You made a definitive statement of
I know for a fact that the purported "fuck the police" chant had nothing to do with "disrespect for law enforcement as a result of the incident".
How can you make such a subjective statement as to intent? The other factors such as the colors being picked out in Sept are irrelevant and what my brother does in the school is irrelevant. the Navy player being suspended should enrage you. The fact that a coach suspended his player without due process . Maybe the player walked off the field because he had a stomache issue. yet he didnt get his day in court to defend himself.. Are you going to tell me Coach Olsen thinks all 9 are totally innocent and not one of them deserved any discipline for the events that took place 10/29? You keep referring to the 2 players not there...what about the other 7 players ? Unless you witness it yourself it did not really happen?
When I bring up why you have convicted all of the government officials without giving them the same due process that you scream about for the alleged perps you twist and and say i must believe that authority is infallible? is that really your answer? pretty big leap there mr brennan. What comment have i made where you can even remotely back that statement up? You fail to ever answer any question directly. WHy not? is it that your logic is fallible?

Well said Kelly!!

Ms. Lonigan
Your tone is becoming increasingly irate. Your entire argument rests on the premise that only the "brother" you dreamed up knows what the intent behind that alleged chant was, you did not address any of the facts I brought up before digressing into your diatribe. Since you won't even agree on undisputed facts how can you be the arbiter of intent. I have spoken personally with students who were present and I know the background firsthand. You will have to do much better than this fictional "brother who knows" in order to convince anyone that the alleged chant was anything other than exactly what it appeared to be. A spirit week - friendly rivalry between grades.

I notice some legal nuance in your post and suspect you are posturing for the upcoming litigation, counsel for the players ought take note and prepare accordingly.

Just way too funny. mr brennan refuses to answer any question and just spews nonsense. So what if the colors and names were agreed to in September. That does not justify the chant. There was no chant towards any of the other classes anything like the Fxxx the police chant . Just a coincedence? maybe ..maybe not but still irrelevant. I still dont see how brennan can say "I know for a fact" anything. It is just plain childish. I didnt say my brother knew anything other than what he observed. I told you what his opinion was. he would never say "i know for a fact".
still waiting for intelligent answers from you regarding the rest of my post but maybe i should give up. You are who you are and you believe what you say is a statement of fact. Close-minded, prejudice, self-serving . Trying to understand why due process is only a relevant topic when you want it to be, otherwise it is dismissed.

http://www.mcall.com/sports/college/lehigh/mc-lehigh-in-fargo-1209-20111209,0,6609820.story College football player suspended by NCAA for ethnic slur that he re-tweeted. I guess the football institution cares nes about political correctness more than old fashion bullying

All of these posts are really great. Filled with vital information, humorous opinions, comical questions, and professional answer's. But, unless the town, county and state can prove that they had the authority to suspend the player's from "extra curricular activities" as a result of bieng charged as suspects in an assault incident outside of school...the only ones that are "chest-bumping, high-fiving, and doing the happy-skippy dance, are the attorney's, the suspects, and the falsely accused.
All future "codes of conduct" are irrelevant. Hat's off to all of the non-participants.

squeakyfoot - your post is 3 weeks old. your question was asked and answered in a court of law. of course the boe can suspend a student for an incident outside of school. it happens regularly across nj and the entire country. it is part of NJ Administrative Code.

Mr Brennan - thanks for enforcing my post regarding the way you answer ( actually do NOT answer) any questions. Are you really that confused? Keep the posts coming. We all need a good laugh at your expense. I would say that you answer questions like a true politician but we all know how that turned out for you?

Ms "Lonigan" - thanks for confirming that you are a spin doctor troll working hard to turn lies into truth. What is you real name "Kelly". Please repeat the question you claim I answered like a politician, while you are at it please answer all of the questions that I asked of you. As is typical of the extortionist loving politicians of Wayne you launch unfounded attacks from behind a veil of anonymity and then accuse people of acting like you do. That's called projecting "Kelly" - let's play a game for each question i answer you answer 1 of mine. Now go ask Scott Rumana if you are allowed to play.

If the allegations of 'the chant' en masse are correct? The the BOE can dismantle the entire football program right now.

Mr brennan - you must have missed a counseling session or your medications. I can see it is impossible to have a dialogue with you. If i asked you what the time of day was your answer would be "Why are you asking me if my favorite color is Blue?"

After school activities are a privelege; just ask all of the home owners in California who now pay extra for any post-school activities. The legal fees will surely cost enough to fund many activities.

I think its abundantly clear, Mr. Brennan is gearing up for office. What office, well any office he can weasel his way into by denouncing the Police, BOE, Republicans, or any one who doesn't agree with his politics. Mr. Brennan has to win his argument every time, leaving us all with noting but his self righteous point of view. Mr. Brennan, this board is not your free press for your next election campaign. I know the economy is bad, but its time you go buy your own press time.

Sure Ron, this is a great way to get elected - take an unpopular position because you think it's the right thing to do. Works every time.

Kelly "false identity" Lonigan it is clear that you are angry because I exposed Jerry "the bribe taking extortionist convict" Bello and that fact that Scott Rumana put him in a position of public trust. Your are equally upset by the fact that I exposed the Paul "the other bribe taking extortionist convict" Cavliere scandal. You know, the one where he owes Wayne Township over $200,000 in RICO restitution but Rumana and Vergano don't think they should make him pay so he doesn't pay. Instead they have his law partner (while he was taking bribes) serve as our Planning Board Attorney. Land use in this town is the cash cow for crooks and you are so upset that I exposed your schemes that you make false personal attacks upon me and allege that I am mentally unstable. You and your other screen name Ron are gearing up for a round of discredit the truth teller - Bring it on! From behind your phony identities you can say whatever you want - trouble is you can't disprove anything I say. I presume you won't be exchanging answers "Kelly" "dude" "Ron" "leanbean" or whatever new name you dream up tonight.

Mr Brennan - You can think what you want and act like you want. I have no affiliation to any of the people you mention. Besides being a delusional nut you are obviously a paranoid moron. you think anyone that disagrees with you does it with political motivation. You have little or no common sense on this topic and apparently any topic. Please KEEP posting because you come acrosse as a comedy show. Nothing you say makes any sense and you cant back any of it up. You state opinions as factual ......my cat is smarter then you

I love's stew's persistence that the football team should be disbanded over1 incident. Stew if these kids didn't have sports some of them wouldn't do as well in school. Me having been one that would have failed in school if it weren't for the fact I had to keep my grades up to play. Moreover if their was no football for sure you would be the one to complain when the kids have nowhere to go after school and they get in to even more trouble. Football is not the problem Wayne hills football is not the problem coach Olsen is not the problem. The parents that had the party gave kids alcohol. And didn't teach their kids to defend yourself if you have too but don't go overboard and wait too give your side of the story to the cops. Thats the problem disbanding the football team would do more harm then good.

SIT 78 - i agree wholeheartedly. football as well as all sports are great and kids learn great lessons and will have many fond memories. A few bad apples should not spoil that. i do not understand why the coach did not simply discipline his players and i think he did get caught up in the win at all cost mentality. Could have been a great time for a great character building lesson for the entire team, school , community. His son is on the team and he knew the real story. Just a shame it was handled so bad from the beginning and spiraled out of control. i also think that haing the AD and coach being one in the same spells trouble unless that person is beyond reproach. Olsen is not the man for both jobs and should stick to football. Hills needs a new no-nonsense AD to take control

@Kelly as I have said before I think there were other factors at play as to y Olsen didn't bench the players(for example someone telling Olsen done bench the players to not screw up the investigation or to point out who the 9 players were. He could have been told th at by a lawyer or administrator or the investigator. ) as to Olsen being an ad and a coach the ad has no direct authority over coaches its not a direct supervisor employee relationship although it may notappear as a good idea and I'm not saying it is or isn't its not really all that bad. Not to mention that Olsen at one point Dean of students. A position that the board got rid of. And due to policy they kept claims pay the same I believe so it saves the town money by having Olsen as ad instead of hireing some one else for the position.

@bill although I don't agree with your political views and the way you go about them I respect them none the less but in all honesty do you really care about this situation? Or are you on here just to attack people that disagree with you and this is just a way for you to push you own politics on other people almost none of your recent posts have anything to do with this incident.!

Happy Monday Bill! Or is it really Tuesday, because we are standing on the wrong side of the Earth.

Bill, you have lost all credibility. Every time I see one of your post all I can hear is..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbZ9xUF7sY8

Just a show of hands please. Does anyone actually read brennan's rants on this page? maybe he is correct with everything he is saying but his methods are off this planet. he needs to find a sane spokesman to carry his torch because he really has no credibility. call me a Rumana lover all you want. I really have no opinion on him as i have never met him and have never had any encounters with him. Just because you rant and rave like a child does not make you right and anyone else wrong. It just shows your true colors. You refuse to answer how you came up with a definitive statement of fact on a peripheral situation to you.....and you repel ALL questions on the topic at hand. Every statement made by a person of authority is therefore invalid is really not a point of view that a sane person takes.

Maybe disrespectful but how do u know chant if there was one was not directed toward the "purple police". If it was really that bad and that crazy, why didn't the principal of the school or the police officer at the school get up and say something???????? I know for a fact that neither of them did.

The dude is 100% right here. Are people going to continue to deflect what happened and ignore common sense? And since when is it okay to chant F**** at all towards anyone or anything while in high school? Some seem to dismiss this altogether and I am a bit offended. Phyllis - since the principal or PO did not stand up does this mean it did not happen? The stories I heard have many of the teachers trying to silence the crowd. But since it wasnt the PO or principal that makes it ok? Is it now okay to curse in our schools as long as its all in good fun? Why was the only chant directed to the kids portraying the police? Can't wait to hear Brennan's answer . Need a good laugh. My guess is that his answer will some how have the word Rumana in it.

I don't know of any rap song with F the Firemen lyrics. Kelly what is your real name? I have repeatedly answered your question and you keep saying I haven't. Are you going to answer any of my questions? What gives you the right to pose the same question over and over, disregard the answer and then ignore questions posed to you.

I asked you a series of questions that you characterized as a rant. At least 1 of your screen names admitted that I am right on the facts. Your Kelly identity refuses to discuss facts, it's easier to characterize facts as rants and accuse someone of mental incapacity than it is to admit the facts that undermine your position.

Exactly what is your interest in WH HS? Do you have a child attending the school? are you a student? Do you even live in Wayne?

Mr. Brennan - everything you post amounts to a rant. You have not answered any questions and frankly i dont really care what your views or opinions are after realizing what you are, what your agenda is, and how really out there you are. I could have abetter dialogue with a chimpanzee . I cant have an opinion unless I have a child attending school in Wayne or I live in Wayne? Is that one of the Brennan laws of the forum? I refuse to discuss facts with you because you are very confused as to what a fact really is........like "i know for a fact why those students were chanting". really ..you know for a fact? Tooooofunny

You "can't discuss facts with me". In that case let's not have any discussion whatsoever, I don't like you, you don't like me and this is a public forum. No need to take up space and the time of others arguing.

Okay. here's a fact. I know for a fact that many of those kids were chanting F*** the police because they dont like the police. How's that for a fact Bill? can you dispute since you seem to know what is in the minds of every person walking on the earth. What a putz

i dont have to post anything to discredit you. You are doing fine all on your own. keep the posts coming PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE . Still has not answered 1 single question but he has the facts. LMFAO. And what would you do to me if we met in person? Are you threatening me? King Putz. I was not bullying or threatening you in any way. i was just typing the lyrics to some of my favorite songs. wow are you touchy. sing along with me F*** the Police yea baby

Wow...showing YOUR true colors there, Kelly. I'm not on any side of this 'internet debate' , however, I noticed the constant back and forth banter, and merely suggested that you two could talk in person to have a rational, clear-minded, polite debate.

Bill stepped up and said he would.

And you answered with the above statement. It speaks for itself, really.

phyllis - i was being sarcastic. forgive me if you cant recognize that. brennan seems to think its okay to chant "f**k the police" in school because its a rap song. Do you agree with him? What exactly would be accomplished by meeting Brennan in person and why do i somehow owe it to him? He cant handle his own on this simple forum and double talks everything. He is exhausting and 90% of the people posting agree with that statement.

leanbean aka Kelly - I have answered your question many times. You are attributing statements to me that I have not said and added "dirtbag" to the list of names you have called me.

It is clear that you and all of your screen names are not the type of people that we the real citizens of Wayne want around. You act in a vile, negative and hateful manner - nothing of what we want in our community.

To my neighbors who are being subjected to this tedious back and forth, I apologize. Unfortunately I cannot let this character assassin (he uses more than one screen name) denigrate me with impunity, besides it is important that he be exposed for what he is.

He complains that I went off topic in one post and then signs on to this thread to ridicule my suggestion that road opening/digging permits be issued on the condition that while the road is open a conduit for burying overhead wires be placed underground so that we can bury our utilities. I don't think it's a terrible idea, I don't hear any ideas from him and i didn't bring it up on this thread. Our town has communities with underground utilities already and none of those communities had trees take out their power.

Now he has assigned an opinion to 90% of the people posting despite the fact that he is 75% of the screen names.

Another off topic Brennan post. Praise the lord. You can't be that stupid to realize that there is no way for me or you or anyone else on this forum to price or disprove who they really are and if they have multiple screen names . I don't have more then 1 but what's the difference? Even if there was a way to somehow prove it ( there is none) you would claim a rumana conspiracy . You have yet to answer how you know for a fact the intentions if the chanters were... You haven't answered why the players should ll get due process but not the government officials which you have called liars? Why is there a double standard with you? And is it okay to chant f**k the police under any circumstances? Answer the questions

Wait a SEC. Kelly let me get this straight weren't the juniors the purple police? And don't get me wrong I think you do truely care about the situation. Unlike some people on here I just need some clarification.

from the stories from insiders yes the juniors were the purple police. the chant was started by some of the football players and yes they were juniors. it might have started out fairly innocent ( if chanting F**K the police can ever be considered innocent that is) and then many of the other football players joined in , plus the general members of the student body and it got heated. the opinions i heard were that it was a derisive slur against the police and it probably had everything to do with the 9 arrests. the teachers tried to get them to stop but it was difficult. I do think this is way overblown , but the funny part is how the apologists like Brennan and a few others , including the lawyers, have so many excuses even when it is such an obvious situation. taking opinions and turning them into fact, as brennan does, is just plain irresponsible and he needs to be called to the table for it. Hypocrisy is a very bad thing but seems impossible to run from at this point.Very easy to say that all of the officials did a very bad job without waiting for all the facts, but at the same time these people demand that we should wait for all of the facts to come out about the incident before we can judge the players. YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS

i know it was junior football players, then joined by many more football players of all grades plus non-football players. cant say if the ones accussed started it or joined in. they couldnt take that many people out of the gym at one time without just ending the event. tired of talking about it as it has become way overblown. more concerned about the adults always making excuses for them because adults ARE role models and when the kids constantly see how "responsible' adults back up their bad behavior how in the heck could you ever expect a kid to learn any lessons. Its called enabling and it is a shame that someone in the public eye like brennan has become an enabler with lame excuses ....much like all the nonsensical excuses spouted by their lawyers. But brennan says the Superintendent is a liar...and not the lawyers with their lame excuses........sad

Brennan - keep the posts coming. I get a kick out of your paranoia. Who exactly are my extortionist bribe taking friends? I truly have no idea what you are talking about, but nobody seems to. here we go again. another Rumana conspiracy . I seriously dont know who any of these people are but it is amusing to see how your mind works. So since your son told you something it has now become a fact? OMG. Your son was the mascot for the freshman fireman...you must be a very proud father...did he also chant "f**k the police" ? I do enjoy your posts

Mr. Brennan what makes you believe Kelly has more then one name? And no I am not Kelly. I am Steve Revette. I agree with Kelly I think it started out innocent and probably got out of hand. Mr. Brennan like I said earlier not playing in a football game is not the end of the world. Life goes on. Fact of the matter is nobody deserves 15 million dollars because they were not allowed to play in a football game. The education commissioner ruled against them. People now a days are so SUE HAPPY. I really hope any judge would throw this lawsuit away considering how ridiculous it really is.

@Bill Brennan

If you were coaching the football team would you have allowed the boys to continue to play football even after being charged and arrested for aggravated assault?

Brennan - you really do think you are a very important person. Everything around you is part of a conspiracy. so I created 7 fake usernames and just post here all day to bother you. But a smart person wouldnt keep taking the bait. I have no knowledge of jerry Bello or anyone else but of course there is no way for me to prove that is there so you will keep spouting it over and over again. I am just as certain about the chant as you are. Why are you right and everyone else is either wrong or a liar? How many people do you call a liar everyday? You need medical help asap. So was your son also chanting "f**k the police" because they treat his father so unfairly? No he was just singing a rap song !

>>Glad to see your son is following in your foot step's. Seeing you were Burkes mascot. >>LOL Just hope he doesn't grow up to be a wife abuser also.

Seriously? You're at the level where your discussion is so low that you are calling him a "wife abuser" ? I'm not on any side of this 'internet debate' , nor do I live in Wayne anymore (thank god) but I add my comments because it saddens me to see people treat each other this way. You are a community - act like it.

All of you who are unable to have normal, civil conversations should just stop posting.

Moderator - how about shutting this thread down?

And here I thought this thread was about a law suit to be filled by a W.H. Player??? How did it get so off track? WOW

i like the dude. But then again the very paranoid Brennan will just say we are one and the same. Could you imagine if Brennan actually won an election? people would flee from this town . I know are town government is not the greatest, but if paranoid conspiracy theorist Brennan was the alternative then it doesnt really seem so bad

i appreciate how everything bad in Brennans life or in the world at large seems to fall on Rumana. Truthfully I dont know who brennan, rumana, bello or any of these people are nor do i care. I came on here to post about a situation in a town i grew up in. I took great offense to brennan stating "that he knows for a fact" the intentions of the students chanting . How can anyone make a statement like that?

omgosh, i go away to florida for a week and look what i come back to! can't we agree to disagree on how we choose to instill values in our children, or would like our coach (BOE, you fillin the blank) to? the name-calling, the insults, the letter capping and yelling. yikes!

hey there Dory... welcome back

Rappers Release 'Film the Police' Video in Solidarity With Occupy Movement

http://crooksandliars.com/kenneth-quinnell/rappers-release-film-police-video

News: Wayne Hills Football Player Could Sue Officials for $15 Million
And... this just in.... The Earth "Could" be Flat.

Hope not!

Bill Brennan, I am curious if you read the report from the NJSIAA on Mr.Olsen. Which was a result of Mr. Olsen filing a complaint because of a 5 game suspension imposed on him in 1998.
I ask this question because I think the document clearly paints a coach that was out of control, and a Township incapable of handling his persona. Having said that, one could argue the document should have resulted in criminal charges for shaking down assistant coaches to pay non certified coaches hired surreptitiously, without the knowledge of the BOE & AD of Wayne Township. In addition, we learn in the report of an assault perpetrated by Mr. Olsen on Mr Bligh, his assistant coach. An assault not refuted. After reading the entire document I find unbelievable Mr. Olsen was permitted to hold onto his position. Even more unbelievable, the sanctions imposed by the BOE where cited by the NJSIAA as "wholly inadequate" against Mr Olsen. So with that information, and Mr. Olsen being fired from two previous positions as a matter of record. Do you think the BOE could have fired Mr. Olsen in 1998 using the findings of NJSIAA report? And would have the BOE acted properly since the report was not a court action? I have attached the link to the report. It is very important to read the entire document. There are so many issues uncovered with red flags waving in the report on a coach & football program that someday would implode.
http://www.state.nj.us/education/legal/commissioner/308-98.pdf

At least the BOE members ultimately did the right thing so i give them some credit.
has the football coach done anything right up to this point? How about the AD? The principal? The mayor? The parents?
How many members of the current board were involved when the NJSIAA sanctions were brought upon Olsen? Are any of the current BOE members even aware of Olsen's past history? I dont see how Olsen can continue because if there is any more Olsen involved incidents wont this past incident totally blow up in their face and have people asking the question "how is he still employed when we knew about his past"?

Football is stupid, and it should be banned from all schools and as a youth activity.

That will never happen and I think you know that. Football is a very good activity for many reasons

@ careless do you think wrestling should be. Banned

Brennan, Posting seemed to get deleted. My syatement was. Glad to see your son is following in your foot step's. Seeing you were Burkes mascot. >>LOL Just hope he doesn't grow up to be a wife abuser also.It's a fact so why did you delete it? You have no problem throwing mud at other people? Just figured I'd throw some back at you. It's all on police records,

Brennan, You remined me of an old Charlie Brown song. ' Why' Everybody Always Picking On Me"

Where's Bill?

Lean bean. Wow. I'm pretty sure the moderator deleted your inappropriate comment. It is kind of slimey to bring up a child in a discussion like this. The last I checked this was an article about a possible lawsuit. It makes you look like you are desperate. If you have an issue with mr Brennan maybe you should give him a call.

Agree with Phyllis. I've mentioned earlier that these guys should just meet in person and talk the issues through, because it seemed much broader than just the football program. Bill welcomed a meeting. The others, well, they just threw more insults and declined to actually meet and talk like a human. You're can talk on-line but you back up nothing and can only retort with name-calling,. So, friends, that's why your posts get deleted! The mods try to maintain some amount of sanity here..

i think Bill Brennan is now posting with multiple names. How does he keep track of them all? People that live in glass houses..................

In Awe is Bill Brennan. I know for a fact (tongue in cheek) . He also posts using a few other screen names. Its obvious because who in their right mind would ever agree with this guy on anything?

Apparently many people get mad at Bill for never answering any questions. heres a story from last year
As Brennan debated Republican Councilwoman Lonni Miller Ryan last week, the moderator, Minna Greenberg of Glen Rock, interrupted him and accused him of not answering questions.

"Just for the fun of it, would you like to once answer a question?" Greenberg asked as Brennan was responding to a two-part query about the difference between the two candidates for Township Council and their commitment to the community.

Kelly - that's crazy. I was just trying to facilitate a normal discussion, but seems like you can't do that. Once again, I am an entirely different person than Bill Brennan, and frankly, I wouldn't want to be him. Get a grip!

A police report does nt constitute a fact....but your son's opinion does? another great leap for BB

Bill,

Did you ever have a chance to answer Ron's question? I think that Kelly needs to end the personal attacks here. They are uncalled for.

Kelly with regard to police reports being fact........not when they are one sided. Police reports get amended all the time. Wait and see if the initial report of the actual fight gets amended. Initial reports are taken based on one version all the time and can then be changed therefore they are not FACT until the investigation is complete.
In addition leave bills kid out of this.

I never said anything about police reports being factual or non-factual. I just get a laugh that Brennan dismisses a police report as factual but states opinions of his son as factual. Brennan is the one who brought his son into this as his source of all facts relating to the pep rally.

im not doing the same thing because i have always said that it is opinion. Brennan is the one who states it is fact. Not even close. There is no way for anyone to determine intent in another individuals mind..but Brennan strongly disagrees. The Superintendent is lying because brennan's son has a different take on what happened? Phyllis , read the statement and tell me if you agree with it. Again, it is one-sided all Brennan's way and it is inflammatory. If he would just admit he has no idea as to intent when they were chanting i will stop on this matter.

Brennans statement:
Kelly, while I didn't refer to anyone as a liar or a coward I know for a fact that the purported "fuck the police" chant had nothing to do with "disrespect for law enforcement as a result of the incident". The fact that a lawyer told that lie on behalf of elected officials makes them all liars in my book.

Dont know what he will or will not admit but check out your own post from 12/12/11 it looks like you were stating a fact there about the intent of the chant. The one from 457pm. Neither you or brennan were there. I agree there is no way to determine intent in an individual's mind but the possibility remains that thenPurple Police were in the building that day and it is possible that they were the recipients of the chant.

Phyllis - i have said many times that there is no way that anyone can determine intent. My statement of fact was in fact SARCASM . I was showing that just because somebody claims to know something as fact doesnt necessarily make it the case. I thought most intelligent people could figure that out since I have been consistent with my thought since the beginning. Everything you say "could be possible"...and it also could be possible that some, many, all, or few were chanting in a derogatory statement towards the real police. I guess we agree...but Brennan still claims he knows for a fact that none of the chants were derogatory or had anything to do with the incident, thus making the Super and the BOE liars. Are you okay with Brennan's assesment? I am not. He claims due process for the players but doesnt seem the BOE is worthy . He is a first class hypocrite

Mr. Bill Brennan,

Can we stick to the topic at hand @Ron asked you a question earlier have you had a chance to think about an answer to the posed question?

and Brennan called the Super a liar for doing the same thing that brennan did. So Brennan, if the super is considered a liar then you are also a liar? Unless you were able to crawl into the minds of the students chanting to determine their intent. Actually, the Super and lawyers stated that there was a disruption in the school. o think chanting "fu*k the police" (not disputed by you ) is a disruption ...so where did the Super and BOE lie? You on the other hand have stated that you knew the intent of the chant...which is an impossibility. I guess anybody that exposes you is now considered a sociopath. And I am the name caller? Brennan, if you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen.. Just admit that you have no idea what you are talking about and I will stop

How can a sensible peron equate brennans statement of fact regarding intent to the supers satement of fact to an event occurring? It's apples vs tomatoes. Of course he will claim they were chanting a rap song so it was all in good fun.. I detest hypocrisy. Now he claims I am harassing him when I call him out. Isn't that something Brennan does on a daily basis? I guess he is admitting to harassing people then?. He plays with semantics and thinks he is clever. Can Brennan disprove the supers statement? Not in a million years but he calls him a liar nonetheless.

Bello is an extortionist.
Bello took bribes.
Bello is a convict.

Paul Cavaliere is an extortionist.
Paul Cavaliere took bribes.
Paul Cavaliere is a convict.
Paul Cavaliere owes Wayne Township more than $200,000 because Wayne obtained a civil RICO Judgment against him.
Paul Cavaliere has never paid a penny of that Judgment.
Paul Cavaliere was partnered up with Matthew Cavaliere in a law practice while he was taking bribes.
Matthew Cavaliere is our current Planning Board Attorney.

Scott Rumana appointed Jerry Bello to the Wayne Environmental Commission.
Scott Rumana appointed Jerry Bello to be Chairman of the Wayne Environmental Commission.
Scott Rumana cost Wayne Township more than 12 million dollars because he gave himself a no bid contract from Wayne Township to his private corporation.

You are fixated on a dispute over an allegation and have nothing to say about any of these facts. That must mean you agree with all these facts.

i would love to get this brennan guy on the witness stand. he cant keep his own stories straight. now the chanting never actually happened....a few posts back he admitted that the chant happened but it was just kids being kids and singing along to a rap song. and he could even state it as "fact" because his son told him . now i will get accused of harassment, having multiple screen names, masquerading as a woman, not having a brother that works in the school system. not living in wayne, being a rumana supporter........you see this is how brennan deals with his issues. Albert has posted for the first time. It must be me posting with another name......

The "facts" you present have zero to do with the topic at hand and are irrelevant to the topic. Nobody reads your drivel. When you are backed into a corner because of your own double talk you resort to the same old tired tactics. You call others cowards but you are the one who makes very bold statements of fact and then runs for the hills when somebody calls you on them. Since you never answer the questions i will assume that you admit you are an idiot for making your statement of "fact",,,and that you dont believe the BOE members, Super, ALJ, or any other authority figure should be given your glorious "due process" but the 9 players should. I can have more logical converstaions with my cat ( now he will accuse me of not actually having a cat)

When you were a child
You were treated kind
But you were never brought up right.
You were always spoiled with a thousand toys
But still you cried all night.
Your mother who neglected you
Owes a million dollars tax.
And your fathers still perfecting ways of making ceiling wax.

You better stop, look around
Here it comes, here it comes, here it comes, here it comes
Here comes your nine-teenth nervous breakdown.

Bill does your wife know you're doing this?

Brennan, Take your meds and go to sleep. You have lost it all now.

Wow that all I have to say

yikes. sooooo, how bout those patriots?

You won't hear from Brennan. he is much better at calling others on their hypocrisy then dealing with his own. I honestly think some of his work is good but his methods and tactics are overly suspect and discredit his message. If he was level=headed and listened once in a while he would be a great asset to the community.

Dory - this is a forum. forums are a place to give opinions...you can choose to be wishy-washy..or not. I didnt know there were forum "police" or that you were annoited . Give me your email and i will have all future posts cleared by you first.

Yes, Kelly, this is a forum, meant for discussion, not bashing or bullying. I wil gladly send you my email if you provide yours for me to do so. I do not post my private information on public forums.

I have not been appointed the police, but I am glad to see you have changed your tune and are now willing to speak courteously.

Brennan is not a bully per se. But he turns every topic into his agenda. There are many many problems with the status quo political machine in Wayne but Brennan feels that they are guilty on every topic in every instance with every decision made. It is just not a reasonable take on things . Look at his first post here which was way off topic. Why not wait until the facts come out before this tirade? It makes him appear very hypocritical since he demanded the players all get due process before judgments should be made.

Setting aside the 15 million dollar figure, why are people cheering on the arrest and punishment of an innocent child? These kids sit in school and learn all about our great freedoms and our superior system of justice only to find out it's all a facade hiding a system of connections, politics and vendettas. NO ONE is getting 15 million dollars, no matter what WE TAXPAYERS are going to pay something for this bungled and incompetent showing by our leaders. To watch the public meetings you'd think these officials solve world hunger and cure diseases every week - "Congratulations to you councilman - oh thank you congratulations to you councilwoman - you are so wonderful - no really you are too great - well let's just say how great we all are and how well we handle everything"

It's mutual admiration society that lacks backbone, integrity or credibility. So long as they are all republican they consider themselves a success.

I think we all agree there is plenty of corruption in Wayne. However Bill Brennan has made himself a pinata with the constant drumbeats against Rumana, Bello, and the rest of the boys in Wayne. I would have consider voting for him if he ran a campaign that did not make him appear as either, a Nancy Pelosi or Michele Bachmann lune type. Bill's tenacity is what's needed in Wayne, unlike the come out, come out, where ever you are Vergano administration. I do hope Bill runs for something.

But first a word of advice to Bill, tone it down. We are listening, so find a way to get your message to us without all the theatrics.

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Ron I didn't run any campaign at all, I never expected to win, didn't raise any money and didn't spend any money. As for Pelosi/Bachman only Bachman is the "lune type" in that duo.

Thanks for your advice, I am not running for any office and have every intention of continuing to point out, waste, fraud, corruption and incompetence in government.

If you decide to do the same thing I'd be happy to follow your example and learn how to be polite when telling someone they are lying.

Until then I seem to be the only person doing what I do, it's easier to criticize my methods then it is to demonstrate a more effective method.

When you want something clean you use an abrasive cleanser and set the agitation cycle extra long.