Conference will Address Impact of Flooding in Passaic County
Municipal, state, and federal officials will discuss the impact flooding has had in Passaic County and how to best respond to it at William Paterson University in May.
Local, state, and federal officials will gather at a conference in May to explore the impact of flooding in the Passaic River Basin, how they have responded in the past, and what the possible solutions are for alleviating flooding in the future.
The conference will be held at William Paterson University on Wednesday, May 2.
Local officials and residents have said for some time now that flooding in the basin is getting worse. Some blame the floodgates on the Pompton River dam. Others blame the increased soil movement that is a result of the development that has gone on in basin in the past 10 or 15 years.
Hurricane Irene caused record flooding in the basin, especially Wayne, when it dumped 10 inches of rain on North Jersey in August of last year.
Vincent Mazzei Jr., will be the keynote speaker. Mazzei is the supervising environmental engineer of the state Department of Environmental Protection’s (DEP) Division of Land Use Regulation.
Two panels, composed of officials and representatives from various federal, state, and local agencies, will give presentations and answer attendees’ questions.
One panel will speak about how to plan for and respond to a flooding disaster.
The following individuals will serve on the panel: Terence Winters from the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Roy Messaros, from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Maryann Trommelen, form the Passaic County Office of Emergency Management, and David Rosenblatt, from the DEP’s Office of Engineering and Construction.
The second panel will address planning and response efforts by local municipalities and the state regarding flooding.
The following individuals will serve on that panel: Wayne Mayor Christopher Vergano, Paterson Mayor Jeffrey Jones, and state Assemblyman Scott Rumana.
The event will be held from 6 to 9 p.m. Reservations need to be submitted by April 18.
To make a reservation, call 973-720-2194.
For more information, call 973-720-2354 or click here.
Sandy Fantau
9:53 am on Friday, March 16, 2012
I just hope that the report on the Pompton Lakes Dam - Floodgates is ready before the conference. It would be great if people had a chance to read beforehand.
Check out this video on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL9yN7nPvGk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Rob Burke
4:09 pm on Friday, March 16, 2012
Hope springs eternal...
Sandy Fantau
4:18 pm on Friday, March 16, 2012
I keep calling ever Friday to see if the report is ready. Still nothing. What on earth can be taking so long. Could they be trying to find away to make the report not sound as bad?
Rob Burke
7:52 pm on Friday, March 16, 2012
They need to send it to Langan Engineering in draft form to make sure that it's drafted to favor them in contract awards worth millions of dollars. I'll give you three guesses on how (who) connects Langan to the Township and the County...
Dory Degen
11:03 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012
fine, have another meeting about how to handle the floods, couldn't hurt. and hope it helps.
did they ever find the flood relief money that was "misplaced?"
Scondo
8:59 pm on Saturday, March 17, 2012
Ah, the flood gate conspiracy buffs ..........don your aluminum foil hats, or just act like rational people and await the report. And don't forget that last spring the snow pack was 30 inches deep in West Milford and that in August a hurricane made landfall in NJ the first time in 60 years or so.
Sandy Fantau
2:40 pm on Thursday, March 22, 2012
Bottom line tropical storm Floyd dropped 17 inches of rain just north of Wayne. Hurricane Irene dropped 10 inches of rain. I don't want an engineer wannie-be to try to come off as in expert in flooding while he hides behind a phony screen name. Lacking the courage to tell his real name. I invite you to come into my neighborhood and speak with those who have lived in the community from before 1984. Everyone is waiting for the floodgate report. By the way I have received correspondence from the governors office clearly stating the floodgates are a part of the chronic flooding problem.
CORBORAC
2:01 pm on Thursday, March 22, 2012
I wish this conference would bring someone from the Passaic Valley Water Commission (owns the Beattie Dam) and the Wanaque Reservoir to the table! They are to two most contributing factors to the floods in Little Falls and several other towns up river. I have been going to flood meetings in different towns for over 10 years and have NEVER seen anyone from either place!
Scondo
3:22 pm on Thursday, March 22, 2012
Sandy, You really need to stop with your exagerations, Floyd dumped 13.34 inches of rain in Somerset County NJ, well south of us, that was the highest recorded amount of rain for NJ, similarl amount was recorded in Brewster NY, that was the high there, that is not in our watershed. Tell the truth, don't keep on screwing up your facts and your dates as you did back when Irene came through.
Sandy Fantau
3:34 pm on Thursday, March 22, 2012
http://www4.ncsu.edu/~nwsfo/storage/cases/19990915/total.precip.jpg
Not according to this map
Scondo
4:07 pm on Thursday, March 22, 2012
Yeah, Sandy, according to that map, read it again, your 17 inches of rain is the red zone, and that is no where near our watershed. And it is a map, you need to go to the actual guaged information to show precipitation date for a specific locality. You are woefully inaccurate in the way you treat these things because you are blinded by your personal belief. Sandy believes it , so it must be so, even if the facts show otherwise. So in actuality, the Wayne area got about 10 inches from Floyd, not the 17 Sandy tells you.
http://www.metstat.com/2page_SPAS_flyer.pdf
Sandy Fantau
5:14 pm on Thursday, March 22, 2012
This is the gauge hights that we follow in my neighborhood. Anyone can look and see that the floodgates had a impact on my neighborhood and Pompton Lakes.
Why do you only believe in some numbers, but do not want to even consider information taken from the NOAA and the USGS gauges.
Historical Crests for Ramapo River at Pompton Lakes
(1) 22.62 ft on 08/29/2011
(2) 21.60 ft on 04/05/1984
(3) 18.05 ft on 03/14/2010
(4) 16.99 ft on 04/16/2007
(5) 16.72 ft on 03/11/2011
(6) 15.83 ft on 03/07/2011
(7) 14.80 ft on 04/17/2011
(8) 14.33 ft on 09/08/2011
(9) 14.22 ft on 04/03/2005
(10) 13.66 ft on 10/13/2005
(11) 13.02 ft on 12/24/2007
(12) 11.12 ft on 03/31/2010
(13) 11.03 ft on 12/12/2008
(14) 10.58 ft on 03/29/2005
Scondo
4:23 am on Friday, March 23, 2012
Ok , Sandy, make me believe what does this data mean. Take your best shot at interpreting the information.
Sandy Fantau
4:00 pm on Friday, March 23, 2012
Scondo,
You are the self-professed Expert for all issues pertaining to the flooding issue. You Ego must be the size of the Planet Uranus. Do you lack the guts to come into flood neighborhoods like ours and hear first hand on how the flood gates have impacted lives. I seriously doubt you will be Man enough. When you get mired in statistics, you lack the reality of this Chronic condition.
What the numbers mean to me is that from 1984 to 2004 the Ramapo River gauge below the dam never hit Action Stage.
In 2005 the river hit action stage once and minor flood stage twice.
In 2007 the year the floodgates started working the river went to Action stage once and Major flood stage once.
In 2008 the river went to action stage once. The gauge above the dam hit historical crest twice and from that date forward has never hit a historical crest again. I happen to find this quite odd because I know people in Oakland that had extensive damage to there homes during Hurricane Irene. It makes me wonder how fast is that water moving through the floodgates to cause so much damage up stream and yet the gauge above the dam never went above action stage.
2009 was a quiet year for all.
2010 the gauge below the dam went to flood stage once and action stage once.
2011 the gauge below the dam went to minor flood stage once and major flood stage four times.
If you want to know the elevations that effect different locations in my neighborhood please refer to my earlier posts.
Sandy Fantau
4:01 pm on Friday, March 23, 2012
I do hope 2012 is a quite year also. I think everyone needs a break from this and do hope there can be a solution for all parties effected.
Scondo
8:57 am on Saturday, March 24, 2012
No snow pack this year , unlike the historic snow pack amount of last spring, a fact that Sandy either can't grasp or refuses to acknowledge. Means no flood spring 2012. 1984 April 4 and 5 rain on top of a heavy snow pack. Go look it up Sandy. Snow pack level dictates if there will be a spring flood. A thirty inch snow pack can be holding the equivalent of a 15 inch rain event. But hey, the obvious is sometimes overlooked
Rob Burke
5:08 pm on Saturday, March 24, 2012
Hey Scondo, why so hostile toward Sandy? While I agree that the lack of snow decreases the risk of flooding for this season, that's got little to do with the impact of the floodgates on flooding in her neighborhood.
Councilboob Scuralli likes to attack me in a hateful, venomous way because he thinks that since I live in Morristown he's entitled to treat me like a piece of dog feces stuck to the bottom of his loafers. But you know, I have very good friends who live in Sandy's neighborhoods, including my closest friend and including Sandy. I spent some time down in that neighborhood in the aftermath. The neighborhood still hasn't entirely recovered. Its really disrespectful for you to treat Sandy and her neighbors with a pedantic, 'I know more better than you' attitude. Its not as extreme as Councilboob Scuralli, but its really insensitive.
Especially when you won't sign your name to what you write or better still, show up and have a civil conversation in person. I would hope we all share the same goal of fixing this problem.
Scondo
11:14 am on Monday, March 26, 2012
I apologize to Sandy, for my being overly mean to her. I am really taking issue with her presenting "fact" that are not factual, such as the 17 inch rainfall of Hurrican Floyd, when the actual largest amount was under 14 inches and that was well south of here. I would prefer that she await the report and challenge based upon the report, not on what she presents as fact. I will refrain from further comment until the report is made available, which report is now almost 2 months overdue.
Rob Burke
11:25 am on Monday, March 26, 2012
Its up to Sandy whether she chooses to accept your apology, but it was a stand up thing for you to apologize and I respect that. But Scondo, here's one fact that Sandy and her neighbors have been living with -- since the floodgates were installed and became operational, these folks have been destroyed by many floods. Not just from hurricanes, either. As Bob Dylan said, "I don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows." Or as Peter Steck testified to the Planning Board, over their BS objection that he wasn't a sound expert: "I am a human being with common sense. A flag will not make a sound if the wind doesn't blow and it will make a sound when the wind does blow." Can't wait to see the flood report -- "When it rains a lot, the flood basin has an increased risk of flooding. But if we give money to contractors and engineers with relationships with folks in positions of power, at least they will get rich while everyone else gets wet..."
Diane Hummel
12:40 pm on Monday, March 26, 2012
I think that "Scondo" needs to come live with what we live with every year since the dam has been built. And I will not hide behind my screen name - my name is Diane, and I have lived on South Rd. since 2005. When I bought my house it had only ever gotten water in the 1960's, and since 2007, I have had at least a foot of water through my ENTIRE living space 4 times. You can say that its not the dam, and you can attack Sandy for saying how she feels, but all I can say is - come live through it once or twice. Let it ruin your entire life, and then we will see how you feel. No matter what the report says, anyone living in our neighborhood and Pompton Lakes knows that the dam has affected us.
Scondo
1:54 pm on Monday, March 26, 2012
You need to access the historical data and you will find that historically the area has flooded, both before and after the flood gates, that it has flooded many times recently is not proof of the assertion, await the report and then see what it says. It may prove your assertion that the gates have impacted adversely the flooding in your neighborhood.
Sandy Fantau
2:07 pm on Monday, March 26, 2012
MAYOR’S REPORT: febuary 27, 2008 Oakland
commended the DPW for their work clearing the roads during the storms. Mayor commented that he is concerned about the level of runoff and is worried about how the gates operate. He noticed problems with the operation of the gates and wrote a letter to Lisa Jackson at the Department of Environmental Protection to find out why the gates are not working properly. He is demanding to understand where failures occur so that we do not have flooding.
Sandy Fantau
2:25 pm on Monday, March 26, 2012
4. The Borough Council has a rapidly closing window in which to petition the NJDEP to do a reassessment of the floodway and flood zone within the project area. This is a quality of life issue that, if done, could increase the property values and subsequently the tax revenues from these properties. The Mahwah portion is already done. The Flood Control Commission does not have the authority to do this. February 24, 2009
Sandy Fantau
2:32 pm on Monday, March 26, 2012
October 13, 2010
Councilwoman commented that she had been unsure about the letter that the Flood Commission wanted the Mayor and Council to send. However, she has read the resolution and the resolution reads very well. Mr. responded that the Flood Commission wanted something from Oakland in writing because there is a large number of constituents who are not Oakland residents that want something done. The Governor had wanted the gates shut down and that would be catastrophic to Oakland. The DEP has indicated that if the gates were to be shut down, the Army Corps and Federal Government would not maintain the project. Therefore, the DEP does not believe the gates would be shut down. Mayor advised that the resolution modeled on the Flood Commission letter.
Rob Burke
2:36 pm on Monday, March 26, 2012
OMG LOL!!!! Ya mean that the Mayor of Oakland John Szabo's other job as Wayne's Planner was in direct conflict because of the flooding?!?!?!?!?!
Oh, never mind. This issue helped knock him out of office in Oakland last November. No more conflict for the Wayne Town Planner Szabo. He no longer owes a directly conflicting fiduciary obligation to Oakland since he no longer holds office there.
Democracy in action....
Kevin Goskowski
5:11 pm on Monday, April 9, 2012
This event is free, however you WILL need to register. More information can be found at:
www.wpunj.edu/cpe & http://www.wpunj.edu/dotAsset/367957.pdf
You can also register directly here:
https://webapps.wpunj.edu/cpe/register.cfm