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Judge Rules Wayne Man Can Keep His Chickens

Victor Alfieri is not violating town law by keeping three hens on his property for personal use.

 

A municipal court judge ruled Thursday that Victor Alfieri is not guilty of violating a town law by keeping three hens on his property.

Judge Lawrence Katz's ruling represents a months-long battle between Alfieri and town officials over the rights of residents to keep hens on private property.

“This whole thing has been very stressful for my wife and I,” said Alfieri, an advocate of sustainability. “I’m glad it’s over. It’s a great victory for health and sustainability.”

Alfieri has kept three hens on his property for about three years. The hens live in a fenced-in chicken run and coop in his backyard. 

“Raising backyard hens has improved my life and it’s just wonderful now that all Wayne residents can start to enjoy the same benefits,” Alfieri said.

Alfieri first appeared before Katz May 17 after town planner John Szabo issued Alfieri a summons earlier this year for keeping the hens on his property. The hens each lay 300 eggs a year. Alfieri does not sell the eggs nor does he use the hens for breeding.

Alfieri argued that because the hens are not being used to make a profit, the ordinance governing the keeping of hens on private property does not apply to him. He contended that the law applies to commercial agricultural uses.

Katz agreed.

Alfieri has previously said that hens are a vital part of the sustainable living movement. He pushed officials to approve an ordinance earlier this year that would've changed the minimum lot size required for residents to own hens from 2 acres to a quarter of an acre. The council did not vote on the ordinance. Alfieri owns about a quarter of an acre of land. He’s been trying to get the law changed for years. 

Alfieri said town officials called him a “lawbreaker” for owning the hens.

“Wayne town officials were interpreting the chicken law incorrectly, enforcing a law that does not exist and I proved it in court,” Alfieri said. “Raising chickens in Wayne is not illegal and never was.”

Alfieri owns the hens and has several small gardens on his property. He harvests thousands of pounds of produce from them every year. He also runs a Web site where he tries to educate and encourage others to live more sustainable lives. 

“I will continue to fight and help other chicken owners in other towns in their pursuit in changing their laws,” Alfieri said.

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Related Topics: Chickens, Victor Alfieri, and Wayne Town Council

Al Scala

3:04 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Congratulations Victor. This decision is well deserved. I'm extremely glad it all worked out for you. I guess the town officials who called you a "lawbreaker" are eating crow!

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Dory Degen

9:29 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

yes, congratulations victor! and how is the community garden going? wish you the best on that. such important work!

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Claire Furber

8:43 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012

Congratulations Victor !!! Thank you Judge Katz.

wayne resident 2

3:58 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Are you kidding me! Judge Katz should be thrown off the bench. I can't believe my tax dollars pays his salary. Where did get his law degree- K-mart? Time to move out of Wayne. Taxes are too high and now chickens in your yard.Hope next time Judge Katz eats a chicken or has an egg he will be reminded how he helped destroy Wayne. Shame on you!

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RocknRoll

10:57 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

I guess you voted for Obama 3 years ago and will be doing so again?

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eyes wide shut

11:14 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

@RocknRoll; What the heck does Obama have to do with this? We live in a town that is controlled by GOP. Hows YOUR taxes doing with them? Your Mayor? Your council? Your BOE? And ALL the other appointee's they have placed? I Guess YOU voted for all these cronies and will be doing so again?????????

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NotRealName

9:18 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012

Yes you probably should move out of Wayne, taxes are too high, but you're going to be hard pressed to find a town that bans chickens. Chickens are a sign that more people care about eating healthy and the state of our food supply in America needs major improvement.

Diane Hummel

4:10 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

This just shows that if you bribe the right politicians, anything can be done. The law is clearly written, and ruining the lives of those who live around you is wrong. But the politicians, judges, and lawyers are all "whats in it for me" people. Anything can be done with the right amount of money. This is the exact reason why I do not get involved with the politics in the town, because it is all crooked. This is the perfect reason why voting doesn't matter, and I am just glad that I live nowhere near this man.

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Scondo

4:43 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

@ Diane---We live in a system wherein we have a social contract to live up to certain legal requirements. Because those legal requirements that we have sometimes impose burdens on our individualistic pursuits we require that the laws that do govern us be specific and clear. If they are not , then society is not permitted to burden me or anyone else under some vague standard. The law as written and explained was prepared 60 years ago and does clearly represent a restriction on commercial activity. Perhaps if the law was updated to ban this form of husbandry entirely sometime in the last 60 years the story would be different. But this is surely not indicative of any crookedness or anything of the like. To believe that would vitiate the social contract. We can not long last if we each chose to believe as you express. Please reconsider your view and the way you express it. personally I find it distasteful to accuse someone of this type of action without any proof of same, but that is me. I believe we will need to preserve our civil means of dispute resolution in the not too distant future or we will find ourselves on the ramparts.

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Victor Alfieri

5:50 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

The law is the law. This is not some kind of loop hole. It's not based on someone's opinion. No law currently exists that prohibits raising chickens in Wayne NJ. Period. The judge is there to protect you, the citizen, from being maliciously prosecuted by a law that does not exist.

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Dory Degen

9:18 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

diane, how can 3 hens ruin someone's life?

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RocknRoll

11:06 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

I would rather have chickens in my back yard then inconsiderate, loud and boisterous neighbors shooting off fireworks (illegal in the State of NJ) at midnight and beyond, and on other occasions into the wee hours.

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NotRealName

9:28 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012

Diane, how is a judge who deals with the facts being bribed? The law is clearly written and his decision reflected that. You're life must be truly sad if its ruined by 3 properly cared for chickens. And what a poor excuse for not getting involved with politics, the people that complain the loudest are usually the ones that do the least.

Sandy Fantau

4:21 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Congratulations Victor, I'm happy for you and others who want to raise a few chickens for eggs. I know a few people who where waiting on this decision to be made so they also can have a few hens.

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Jeffrey DelVecchio

4:55 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Congratulations Victor, glad to see the judge followed the law and not the opinions of your detractors.

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Victor Alfieri

5:44 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Jeff...I was thinking about you today. Thanks for your support.
If I can be any help to you let me know.

stewart resmer

5:07 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

cryminknee here comes another law suit thanks to a township council led by scuralli that cannot read and interprit the laws already on the books!

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Justice

5:35 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

@Stewart, I didn't realize that squiralli could read. News to me. Yes, I decided to learn sarcasm, I have been watching the many council meetings and it is teaching me Wayne English: bully,bully, bully,sarcasm, arrogance, talking down to your bosses (the people who pay your salary: the taxpayers), screaming, banging the desks, making the sign of the cross in a non-religious setting, sounding like squiralli's idol: RUSH (and I don't mean the rock and roll group)

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Justice

5:37 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Victor, Congratulations. Your persistence paid off. Be weary of any retaliation.

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Diane Hummel

6:02 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

@ Justice - it is everyone else who should be worried about retaliation. Victor has belittled his neighbors, verbally abused them, and he obviously has a friend in the Wayne court system. He gets no punishment for anything that he does, and now he is going to make his neighbors even more miserable than he already has.
@ Scondo - I do not make accusations without proof, just so you know....

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the dude

6:14 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Thank you Diane...for pointing out the truth about Oliver Wendall Douglas.

Bad neighbors flock together...right Mr. Jurke?

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Rob Burke

8:26 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Doodie, I think your diverticulitis is acting up again. Consider surgery.

Justice

5:38 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Glad to see that our municipal judge stepped up. Kudos.

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Cathy Kazan

5:49 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

The part that I can't get over is that we had several of our elected officials working on a new ordinance that was never voted on, and apparently they didn't read or understand the existing ordinance. This was a correct decision by Judge Katz and I applaud him for making the decision based on the law, not politics. Guess I can go buy some chickens now. Congratulations Victor. I know this has been a long road for you.

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Victor Alfieri

12:02 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012

Hi Cathy.......Every council member was made aware of my argument on March 7 2012, in my finale report, many of them new before that. I even explained how and why the error was made. At any time any council member could have ask the town attorney to review the law.

http://www.woodlotfarms.com/uploads/The_Final_Report.pdf

Instead they just tried to ruin my credibility with lies about my property, compared what I was doing to having an illegal used car lot, and called my wife and I law breakers 11 times over 3 council meetings.

When you enforce a law that does not exists it’s called “Malicious Prosecution” So I’m going to let the Wayne resident decide who was the real law breaker.

No need to wonder why this town is buried in litigation.

the dude

5:50 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Katz rules Ratz are legal...because thatz what you'll have in your yard if you live next to a chicken-owner.

Oliver Wendall Douglas of Woodlot Farms is now legally a nuisance and a bad neighbor...a victory for Jurkes everywhere in town.

Wayne Misfits are celebrating...free lime slices and wedges for everyone at the corner of Black Oak and Hamburg Tpk.

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Rob Burke

8:29 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Doodie, maybe you should now join victor in asking the council to regulate chickens. Of course, to go on public record would require you to identify yourself. Seems unlikely, eh doodie?

Victor Alfieri

5:53 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Thank you for all your support! If anyone is interested in learning more about living a more healthy and sustainable lifestyle please visit my website.

If I can be of any help, please call or shoot me an email.

http://www.woodlotfarms.com/
http://www.woodlotfarms.com/Coop_Building_Service.html

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Bill

6:48 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

The high taxes are paid by everyone. Anyone who feels it necessary to control their neighbors, needs to live in a private community or townhouse/condo/coop association.

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Diane Hummel

7:09 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Its not about controlling your neighbors - its about RESPECT - something that many of the people in this town don't have anymore.

fboy1932

7:17 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

As much as I disagree about this whole chicken thing I must respect the law. The law wasn't recently implemented, its been here for years so I don't get why everyone is now crying and pointing fingers based on the law. Maybe Wayne can go back to when everyone lived like " The little house on the prairie" I think some people dont know the history of Wayne...

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NotRealName

9:37 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012

Thank you fboy66 a voice of reason. People forget their roots and what Wayne was like not too long ago (and much nicer then I might add). Our grandparents would get a good laugh to hear that all this anguish is over 3 chickens.

wayne resident 2

8:09 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

If Alferi finds it so stressful, maybe he should MOVE! I have lived here my whole life and I find him distasteful and his chickens also. I believe Judge Katz your resignation is in order.Resign now before you allow cows and goats to roam free in Wayne.It is just sick! Who paid you off?

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Dory Degen

9:23 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

i remember when goats roamed free (thats how old i am!)
anyone remember the billy goat man? no one ever bothered him.
i can't believe how upset some are getting over a couple of chickens for pete's sake.

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NotRealName

9:42 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012

Wayne resident 2 I thought you were moving out of Wayne. I've lived here my whole life also and chickens have been here the whole time too. Why do chickens bother you so much? I just don't get it, we're talking about 3 chickens, not a whole flock.

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NotRealName

9:47 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012

Dory, I remember the billy goat man. I remember cows in a pasture on Valley Road and Alps Road. I remember sheep living in the yard at the Victorian house on the corner of Alps Road and Ratzer Road. I remember horses living on a small lot on Alps Road. Neighbors raised chickens, grew their own vegetables, etc Just recently there was a rooster that would peck on the office door where I worked (we even named him). I miss those days.

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Rob Burke

12:42 am on Wednesday, July 4, 2012

Bizarre that you would suggest that a man who was wrongfully accused of breaking the law should move away. Outrageous to suppose that despite abiding by the law, that an honest man should be run out of town for speaking his mind. Shameful. Perhaps those who wrongfully attack should apologize. And perhaps the lawmakers should now make laws, rather than baseless insults. Regulate this issue in a reasonable way and move on, deliberately and with all due haste.

Resident Kelly

8:45 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Mr. Alfieri was just as much a victim as the neighbor was. Both have suffered from this issue. But the law is the law and the facts are the facts. This case was found not guilty because the current law on the books was in Alfieri's favor. Maybe now that the case has been decided the neighbor and Mr. Alfieri can come to a truce. They have both been mislead by this town and it is not either one of their faults.

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NotRealName

9:49 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012

I agree with you Resident Kelly. A truce would be great to see, good for the soul not to harbor resentment. Life is to short.

Frank Toscano

9:36 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

To any one who has an issue with what Victor is doing ... You need to have your head removed from your arse ... He is not running a business ... He is growing some fresh food on a very small scale on property he owns ... Government is already way too big and has there eyes and hands where they don't belong !!!

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the dude

9:52 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

And if you support someone who selfishly ruins the comfort and sanctity of his neighbors in persuit of a hobby, then you should have a foot planted upon your arse.

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Justice

9:48 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012

dude, do you know how to use your spell check?

Joe videodummy

9:55 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Congradulations Victor
For the past several months you were laughed at, ticketed, ridiculed by our town council, our planning board, and even your own neighbors. Most of them immediately sided with the boards decision for more laws, more rules and regulations and more changes to our lop-sided due process.
The residents are being misled in so many different directions, and on so many different issues right now, it's obvious why they would be so eager to discredit your intentions and ambitions for no other reason than it doesn't agree with their own.
Keep up the good work.

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the dude

10:16 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Typically spoken (written) like a genuine dummy.

C6

10:36 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Congratulations! Don't let the negativity of people get in your way! There are a lot of other important things that people should be concerned about-not your chickens!

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Nose Wayne

11:57 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!! Just got on today for the first time(almost over) Did MOST OF YOU wake up this morning upside down on the headboard ? LAW IS LAW.PERIOD!! unless they change it ,it is what it is.NOW CAN'T WE ALL GET ALONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Nose Wayne

6:48 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

Victor,told you the chickens were ROOSTING for ya. Enjoy your LEGAL EGGS !!!!! They will taste alot better now.

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Bill

7:56 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

Diane, RESPECT is earned. As long as 475 continues to accept annonymous complaints from "yellow cowards"; and the council, unequivically humiliates and brow-beats the citizens who pay their salary and benefits; there will be no respect. It starts at the top. The attitude of 475, including mayor and council, is unacceptable in a free society. Additionally, where was the respect for the World War II Veteran, when the "anonymous" complainers got their way with 475? He was found dead a year later while his house had been sold for unpaid water bills. RESPECT??? I think not.

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Scondo

8:28 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

It was not the town council who should shoulder the blame for the fact that the man lay dead in his house for a year, it was the fault of his neighbor , friends and family who thought nothing of knocking on the door, ringing the phone or asking about his whereabouts. Sure, the inspector who dropped off the ticket should be suspended for 90 days and retrained, but it is not the role of government to become our wet nurse.

Justice

7:59 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

@Bill, The clowns belong in a third world dictatorship, not the USA. Vote them out...Impeach them...So much can be done.

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Donatello Nobatti

8:07 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

For anyone who believes hens are too loud, allow me to introduce you to the new families of blue jays, grackles and crows that wake us up at 5:30 am every morning!!! Do Wayne's "disturbing the peace" regs apply to them?

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Margaret Wert

8:15 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

I am so glad you won, good for you . :)

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Bill

8:37 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

Scondo, who exactly is that inspector and has she been suspended and retrained? The fact of the matter remains that it was not the friends, family or neighbors who sold the house; but the Township of Wayne.

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Bill

8:38 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

Scondo, who exactly is that inspector and has she been suspended and retrained? The fact of the matter remains that it was not the friends, family or neighbors who sold the house; but the Township of Wayne..

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bill halik

9:22 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

I would bet most of these people believe eggs come from Styrofoam and in dozens. OH yeah and with h and antibiotics too and other assorted goodies.

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Victor Alfieri

10:26 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

I’m getting many e-mails asking if chickens are now legal in Wayne.
YES owning and raising chickens is LEGAL in Wayne NJ.
Raising chickens was never ILLEGAL in Wayne NJ.

Must Follow This Law Only
§ 68-49. Confinement.
No fowl shall be allowed to fly or run at large, but shall be confined in a suitable house or coop with an enclosed runway.

§ 68-50. Location of coop, house or runway.
No part of any coop, house or runway referred to in § 68-49 shall be less than 25 feet from the doors or windows of any building occupied by human beings, whether for dwelling or business purposes, except by written permission from the Township Health Department. Nothing in this section shall be deemed to apply to poultry kept in live poultry markets and poultry slaughterhouses pursuant to the provisions of Article VII of Chapter 90 of the Code of the Township of Wayne.

Please be responsible. NO ROOSTERS
If you need help with your coop and setup, let me know.
I would be happy to help. http://www.woodlotfarms.com/

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Donatello Nobatti

7:59 am on Saturday, June 30, 2012

Thanks, Victor. I really want to believe this! But it sounds too good to be true in a town that charges a fee for everything...You need a permit from the town to put up a shed, but not to have chickens? Congratulations on your hard-fought victory.

Dory Degen

12:39 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012

B-Gok!
I have some live hens to go purchase for my backyard!
TY Victor :)

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bett

12:57 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012

Very good VJ
I am happy to see that you and many others still believe that America is the land of the free and we still have rights under the constitution!

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Justice

1:33 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012

We need a good class action. Victor is not the only one.

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Stephanie S

5:19 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012

With times being as hard as they are, is it so wrong to provide your own food? People are ridiculous, how is it selfish to be self-sufficient? Do we forget that there were times that everyone had hens on their property?

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Al Scala

6:36 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012

Victor.....you won because you did nothing wrong. You were never in violation of any ordinance. Our illustrious Councilmen like Jimenez and Schwiegart who made snide comments and stupid jokes, are the ones who look stupid now. Thankfully, Judge Katz 's ruling was unbiased, and in keeping with the law. It's nice to know that good guys do win sometimes.

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Jessica Brody

1:31 am on Saturday, June 30, 2012

Councilman Joe Schweighardt said the township cited Alfieri twicw in the past two years for having chickens on his property.
"For years he just did what he wanted," Schweighardt said.

Over the past two years the many articles and posts written by Victor Alfieri did reflect what he wanted to do, and that was to abide by the law.
During the same period it also exposed our council members and how far they are willing to go to discredit a law abiding citizen. Not just Victor, but anyone that the council disagrees with.
The stench of the town council makes Victor's chickens smell like Chanel No.5.

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Justice

7:27 am on Saturday, June 30, 2012

School Bus Monitor who was bullied in upstate has become a celebrity. The council has acted worse than any of the students on that bus. Does anyone have video of some of the many bully sessions in order that they can also be UTube ?

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Nose Wayne

10:35 am on Saturday, June 30, 2012

Justice,What side show do you want to see. Channel 77 shows reruns of the last council meeting. Might want to talk to Tim Collins who runs the cameras and tapes the meetings Call 694-1800 Ext. 3315 and ask him.

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John

2:45 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012

Wow! A little chicken controversy has once again energized the anti-Wayne council Internet lurkers (not all, just the usual suspects). They ought to file petitions for election so they can straighten up the present council members (do they hate all of them, or just the Republicans)? My neighbor tried and chicken & rooster thing a few years ago, and with a gentle reminder that chicken feed attracted vermin and roosters had the bad habit of unleashing their cock-a-doodle do's at various times of the day & night, he removed them Not quite the kind of farming activity that is appropriate for a 1/3 acre residential property. I suggest that all the advocates of this kind of activity have their neighbors set up shop next to them and try it out. And perhaps a wind turbine could reduce their electric bill.

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Rob Burke

12:45 am on Wednesday, July 4, 2012

A wind turbine would certainly reduce electric bills, but what of it? Perhaps you should suggest that everyone abide by the law. I would support that notion, like motherhood and apple pie. It's preposterous that you and a few others suggest that those of us who abide by the law, somehow are bad people who do bad things. Perhaps you accuse rape victims of 'bringing it on themselves' by being attractive. The rule of law should matter. If you don't like the outcome, go to Trenton and change the law if you can. That's what I did.

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Joe videodummy

2:48 am on Wednesday, July 4, 2012

chicken feed attracts vermin, and chickens emit a fowl oder ? Not any more than open trash cans on pick-up days, or school dumpsters, shopping centers, apartment buildings, lakes, parks, pets, leaky cellers, detached garages and sheds, wood piles, pools, decks, cabanas, and dozens of other places.
It's all about how you manage your own environment that makes the difference.
The town cannot comment on these issues when they refuse to pick-up dead deer and animal carcases from our streets and roadways, flush our sewer drains regulary, or operate our sewer water/solid waste facility in lower Wayne.
Chicken and pigeon coops have always existed in town, not as much now as 20-30 years ago, but they have always been a part of this township.

Al Scala

3:15 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012

John.....The bottom line here is Victor Alfieri has done nothing wrong. In accordance with the ordinance, he is within the law.,Whether you favor that or not, the Judge ruled in his favor. I find it interesting that you made no comment on the arrogance, obnoxiousness and stupidity of some of our Councilman regarding their snide comments. Do we dislike the Councilmen? Personally, no! We just want them out because of their attitude towards the public and in my opinion, their incompetence! By the way John, I'm a Republican. I don't want them out because they're Republicans. I want them out because they're incompetent and do not represent ALL the people. Only a chosen few! I suggest maybe you talk to your friends on the Council and suggest they work on a new ordinance. Oh.. and about the wind turbine, please tell your friends to stop wasting our taxpayers money on frivoulous litigation.

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Nose Wayne

3:28 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012

Latest Count,Wayne Residents-2 Wayne Council-0, Going into extra innings!!!!!

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Bill

7:13 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012

John, I find it difficult to understand your comments when any civilized person would find the behavior of Wayne council to be totally inappropriate, bigoted, prejudiced, racist and juvenile. It doesn't stop at the condescending, sarcastic tones or the texting during meetings; but continues to the total disregard of other religious persuasions that are part of Wayne citizenry, such as the physical motion of the sign of the cross. If that action had occurred during a shareholder's board meeting, this councilman would be "crucified", no pun intended. The council is their own old boys network, with the females behaving worse than the males. The sole democrat is really a republican with a different title. It is intolerable and indecent that this council continues in this manner.

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Justice

7:19 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012

Nose, I knew there was something i liked about you. Glad to read that you help people through your Union activities. It was the Unions that stopped the tyranny of the Industrialists. I belonged to 1262 and CWA in a far distant past. They helped keep the salaries and benefits fair. Have you tried to unionize the clerks at 475? Maybe the attitude would be humbled? God Bless You Nose.

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Nose Wayne

8:16 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012

Justice, Yes they are unionized.Getting NOSE raise this year,they have a reason not to be humbled. Most salaries are between 10 and 50 thousand.You have to work for 30+ years to get to the high end number if you live that long. Police and Administration get all the raises that you will not see published.NOSE alot that retired because of the politics.

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Justice

8:41 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012

Nose, I did not know that. Which local? The same as the state workers? Are they all unionized or just some? Is the administration with a different union or not at all? Are all clerical municipal workers in the state unionized? Where can I find that info? Interesting.

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jim

3:53 pm on Friday, July 6, 2012

All this over some chickens. Citizens of Wayne are missing the big picture. NJ is nearly bankrupt, the palce is rediculous with property taxes, insurance and every other government malfeasance and 3 chickens creates this kind of hoopla? Seriously - wake up!

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Resident Kelly

3:59 pm on Friday, July 6, 2012

What about the even BIGGER picture that this town was enforcing a law that does not exist?!

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