State Judge Upholds Suspension of Wayne Hills Football Players
Nine players are not allowed to play in Saturday's championship game.
An administrative law judge upheld the suspension of nine Wayne Hills High School football players, barring them from playing in the team's sectional championship game on Saturday.
Judge Elleen Bass denied a motion for emergent relief filed by attorneys for the nine players, who were each charged with aggravated assault following a fight at a private party in October, police said.
Bass upheld a ruling last week by the Wayne Board of Education banning the players from all extracurricular activities, including football, after a four-hour closed door hearing in Newark.
The Board imposed the ban on the nine players, including star wide receiver Andrew Monaghan, 18, on Nov. 25. The other eight players are juveniles.
The players initially filed a petition for emergent relief on the ban with Passaic County Superior Court Judge Thomas Brogan. Brogan did not rule on the application Wednesday, referring the matter to Cref's office. The state’s Bureau of Controversies and Disputes, which assists Cref in hearing testimony and issuing rulings regarding disputes under state school laws, referred the matter to Bass.
Bass's recommendation for upholding the ban will go to Cref, who may accept or reject all or part of it, said Kalman Geist, the attorney representing Monaghan.
"They're punishing the innocent here," said Darren Del Sardo, an attorney representing one of the juveniles.
Geist said Cref would "probably" announce his decision on the matter Friday.
Del Sardo said that that there is a “high standard” when it comes to requesting emergent relief, including proving that irreparable harm would have been done to the players by allowing the ban to remain in effect. Del Sardo said that Bass agreed irreparable harm would be done to the players, who are starters, if they don’t play, but kept the suspensions in place anyway.
“It’s just a real heightened standard that’s hard to overcome,” Del Sardo said. “We tried everything.”
Del Sardo said the Board’s inability to come to a consensus on how to properly discipline the players made the case a difficult one to win.
The players were allowed to participate in the team’s first-and second-round state playoff games Nov. 11 and 18. Citing case law, Interim Superintendent Michael Roth suspended the players from extracurricular activities Nov. 16. The Board placed a stay on the suspensions Nov. 18.
“I just wish the Board didn’t do as much flip-flopping,” Del Sardo said. “I wish they protected the innocent here. They failed.”
The players were charged with aggravated assault after police said they attacked two Wayne Valley High School students after a party on Urban Club Road Oct. 29. Police said one of the students was left unconscious in the street.
Del Sardo said his client was not at the incident and is innocent of the charges brought before him.
“I wish someone would have listened to me so he would have been vindicated today,” Del Sardo said.
Kitty Kat
5:23 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
Justice for the victims at last
Former Valley Gal
5:29 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
I wouldn't say justice for the victims- that's on the shoulders of the PCPO now.
Paul Soriero
10:50 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
I am happy with the result. The players should not be allowed to play until all the facts are heard and a final decision is made. The lawyer said the innocent are being punished, but how do we know who is innocent and who is violent until the case runs its full course. And how about the innocent players from other teams? Why should they be exposed to possible violence? The precedent has already been set. Why was Joe Paterno and the coach from Syracuse let go before all the facts are determined? Because innocent have to be protected at all times.
Jay Pierson
4:30 pm on Monday, December 5, 2011
Paul Soriero: Your statement that the players should not be allowed to play until all the facts are heard and a final decision is made. So you believe that if you are unjustly accused of something you should loose your rights as an American citizen until all the facts are in. That is not how are forefathers wanted our legal system to run. Shame on all of you who want to punish these kids before you know what all the facts are. Hopefully your children never have to be told they are guilty before it has been proven. No I don't have anything to do with this community. I am actually from Montana. I just do not like to see an injustice take place. The players should be punished only after they have been convicted not before.
Al Scala
5:27 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
I'm glad the suspension has been sustained.
joann ranalletti
5:58 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
I, too, am happy the suspension has been upheld.
Wayne Parent
5:27 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
uh-oh
Willy
5:27 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
Um... What will they pull out of their hats next??? Appeal to the state and federal supreme courts??? And just to think they haven't even gone to court yet for the assault charges!!!
Bob
5:32 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
Looks like things might be going the right way.
DJ
5:54 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
wow,finally someone got it right.only took a state judge to put his foot down and stop a bunch of currupt parents ,coaches and players.. damn makes wayne and wayne hills families look so bad..
PainterMan
5:57 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
Good to see some sensible people making decisions. Let's see what trick the attorneys pull out next
Dory Degen
6:29 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
I would hope they would just leave it alone and prepare for their client's criminal case. I was driving home from work and heard this decision on 101.9 news. My first reaction was, oh good. My second thought was, how embarrrassing that THIS is what our town is now known for.
DJ
5:57 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
i hope now that they are suspended none of them show up at the metlife stadium. suspentions means they cannot be anywhere near the game.But knowing how they all thing who they are im sure one of them idiots if not all will try to get in.
Bill Null
6:03 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
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robin Valorani
11:39 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
who are you calling an idiot, really?Your an idiot for doing what your doing!! Go get a life,
Bill Null
6:04 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
d
Frank
6:07 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
To my pal @WWWD and his disrespectful cohorts:
Looks like your legal efforts have just been "SACKED" and as the late "Dandy" Don Meredith would sing "turn out the lights the party's over".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=A23snMkbZ1I
You see that's a football reference by the way.
Dory Degen
6:25 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
Frank, you are too much!
Does anyone know when the criminal charge court date is?
Frank
6:46 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
Dory,
I guess i couldn't help myself but @WWWD did have it coming.
My sympathy does go out to the myriad of players / families who had absolutely nothing to do with all of this. In the end they had an many opportunities to stand together and make their voices heard. If I was a gambling man I would like to believe that a vast majority of them did not like the way this entire thing was handled.
It's sad that they are now "clumped" together with the "ideology" of their head football coach and feel like their backs are up against a wall. Life lessons are being learned at every turn during this fiasco.
abbie
6:23 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
The final decision has not yet been made, this is just this judge's recommendation for the education commissioner who will make the final decision.
DJ
6:26 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
its over ..the state judge has the last say period..that was the purpose of having him make the decision.. its done over..they can not play..
Dory Degen
6:37 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
it was a her. judge ellen bass.
jerdeyguy
7:28 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
YES it was a female Judge. Once I heard a "Soccer Mom" was hearing the case, I already knew the decision.
DJ
6:28 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
abbie:;: i think u are confused or are u just a wayne hills parent that didnt get the memo yet.. {fat lady is singing finally} thank th e lord state had to step in and tis couldnt get currupted anymore.lets all thank the passaic county judge for using his head and turning it over to the state judge.
WWWD
6:43 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
"Bass's recommendation for upholding the ban will go to state education Commissioner Christopher Cref, who may accept or reject all or part of it"
Frank's wife is not singing yet
DJ
6:55 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
i understand that wwwd but reality is once the state judge makes his findings heard no way christopher cref, will go against his findings and change it and allow the players to play..Now if he over road it ,then thats a different story. its as good as {the fat lady singing} U know what ,reality is ,if olson would have been a father /grown up/ real coach and not a selfish arragant coach,he should have sat the kids out for the first rond of the playoffs and most of this would have subsided.But we all know what and how he thinks of his football programand that its all about his well being not the kids.
Frank
6:58 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
Hey WWWD. Guess what it's called a "rubber stamp" by Cref.
If I'm not mistaken you sound a little like a "sore loser" just pick up your ball and go home or should I say "Get Back to Basics" like respecting others!
Ron Ricci- "The most pressing issue we lost on. We’re expecting (the Commissioner of Education) to follow the judge’s decision."
WWWD
7:03 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
I just hope your property taxes will support the lawsuits the School board is going to have to endure. Good Luck, this was your State Championship.
K
7:38 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
What are you talking about? They were given a fair chance by the Court. Now, let's start talking about forfeiting the game on Saturday because they got there by unfairly playing a bunch of kids that shouldn't have been there.
Dory Degen
9:52 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
So wait a minute, ....WWWD you don't even live here in Wayne? Why do you care so much about this (assuming from your insults and general nastiness). You seem to be most interested in exploiting this subject as an opportunity to me mean to people.
Two articles ago you petulantly stated you were done and never coming back here to post. Jeesh!
careless fills
4:54 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
@K: I don't hink anyone from anywhere else about whether or not these nine did play against them (if they lost) or will play against them in the future. That wouldn't be sporting and anyway that's not their business - they will just go ahead play the silly game.
Al Scala
7:23 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
Hopefully, these 9 young men are starting to see the picture. I sincerely hope their criminal case goes better than this civil one.
John Lynch
7:23 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
Law suit for what ? You do not have a right to play sports in High School it's a privilege. The nine Hills kids gave up that privilege when they were arrested and charged with a crime. If they wanted to play football so bad and have scholarships so bad they should not been out committing indictable offenses maybe their parents should of taught them better way before High School.
Phyllis Rec
7:42 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
I believe some were wrongly accused that might be grounds for a lawsuit.
InAwe
8:21 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
Right on, John. Why do so many people like Sally SillySong forget that?
DJ
7:26 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
When they are all found guilty ,lawsuits will all go away.not a issue.State Championship?even if all 9 kids played they would still lose to old tappan...
pat spardel
7:56 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
I realize email allows some spelling abbreviations, but I am appalled at the spelling errors and misuse of the English language. That says more about our schools than whether or not we win football games.
WWWD
8:00 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
Lynch, it's should have, not "should of"
I'll be watching when your freshman makes a mistake
Dory Degen
9:58 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
This sounds like a threat of sorts. WWWD please elaborate becasue that is a little scary.
state champs 2000-06
8:02 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
Next time you wonder where the moral fiber of the town went, look no further than this
a EDUCATOR, made the choice to take this type of action against his players who were accused of this act. His action, was to stand by his players, the real question should be, If found guilty, does wayne deserve to have this type of teacher teaching your children? He is a coach second, teacher first, as ALL COACHES at any level should be, whether they are a teacher or not. What did he know, and when did he know it?
WWWD
8:20 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
What?
Squeakyfoot
8:27 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
Moral fiber ? The idiots in this town make it impossible to win anything. For the past 35 years I've stated Wayne will never win another Little League Baseball Championship, and I strongly believe after Coach Olsen retires, the same will go for Wayne Football. It's no longer about winning. Now it's all about making sure "they don't win" unless you can win too. The battles between the two rage on. The fact that all of this was a result of teenager's from the same town reveals the mentality of the town's people. No one is exempt.
Phyllis Rec
8:45 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
Word around the water cooler,,,,,,Wayne police allegedly refuse to escort the players, cheerleaders and band buses to the game. This is something that they have done in the past but for some reason will not do this year. Is there any truth to this?
Dory Degen
9:46 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
That sounds like a silly rumor.
Phyllis Rec
8:28 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
It does sound silly dory. Too bad it is true
not one of the nine
4:16 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
My dear Phyllis, while I have no interest in partying with you (rather odd way to flatter for an adult), perhaps the attched link from the Bergen Record will shed some light on why the police may not be lining up to escort the team bus. I guess when the team decides to chant "F#*@ the police" at the pep rally the men in blue may not be quite so fast to cheer them on.
Additionally, why would I want to pay for the police to leave town and escort the busses? Holy cow has this town turned football into a religion with the Almighty Olsen as it's highest priest.
http://www.northjersey.com/news/Officials_cite_growing_tension_in_two_Wayne_high_schools_judges_ruling_says.html
Phyllis Rec
7:06 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
Ok the pep rally. Eachnclassnhas a theme. The freshmen were the freshmen firemen the juniors werenthenpurple police,,,,,,the classes compete vs each other,,,,those were the police who were being jeered at during the spirit rally,,,,the junior class wearing purple police t shorts,,the themes for each class were chosen well in advance of the incident at the party. So before you think you know everything think again...........I now realize you have no sense of humor I was not trying to flatter you Get a life
Not one of the nine
10:45 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
My dear phallus. So did each class have the football team cursing them? F*#% the orange seniors, F*^% the firemen? Or only the junior purple police? Yeah, you were there too? Oops your son told you, right? I find it laughable that you would creep on me with a "I want to party with you" comment when you misread my post and thought it was in support of your boys. When you finally figured out I detest your ilk I then no longer have a sense of humor? bwahahahahahahahah
Phyllis Rec
7:57 am on Saturday, December 3, 2011
Good morning not one, I never thought you were "in support ". I just respect the fact that you and I could have had different opinions and believe it or not I got a kick out of one of you silly posts. I guess it went over your teeny tiny little head. I am clearly a more open minded and nicer person than you . Continue to spew your venom in life, continue to spread lies. Please remember everything you do comes back to you.
Truthseeker
9:02 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
It is patently obvious that the Wayne Police, the Wayne Board of Education, the teachers, the reasonable “Waynetonians” and perhaps many others are part of a grand conspiracy against the truly reasonable football parents and their suffering children. Whether it's actually the Free Masons or the Illuminati is unclear, but is it really possible that all of these forces aligned against these innocents by accident? I think not.
Let's look at the rumored evidence. Since there is “evidence” that one student may not have been present, this obviously means that all of them must have been framed. But who would do this? How can all of these bad things happen to good people? It must be a conspiracy as there is no reasonable explanation possible.
So why did these sinister forces bring their evil to Wayne? Ah, that is the bigger question. They are normally engaged in subverting larger events, you say. And that's where you're wrong: there is nothing bigger or more important than a football game in the small world of Wayne, which is how this town will forever be remembered.
Dory Degen
9:45 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
--- there is nothing bigger or more important than a football game in the small world of Wayne ---
Well don't forget the Housewives of NJ!
Frank
7:38 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
This sounds like a feasible theory! LOL
Phyllis Rec
9:27 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
Leave football out of the equation for a moment if you can, if someone is wrongly accused, wouldn't that make you question the rest of the investigation? just a thought.
DJ
11:43 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
phyllis , u keep saying wrongly accused.are u saying u know for a fact that one of these kids were wrongly accused????
exWaynefan
11:51 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
Phyllis,
I think that's a question you should ask the coach, the lawyers, and the parents of these nine boys.
Afterall, they've had a whole month's worth of close contact & communication with the 9 boys, and more information than anyone else to suggest 'innocence' or 'guilt',
as well as the means to have been more aggressive in clearing "those who weren't there" [so to speak].
So do you mean to tell me, that we may have parents who's child WASN'T EVEN THERE, fighting harder to have all 9 players in the game, rather that focus on THEIR child's innocence??
That would actually be more disturbing [if true]
John Lynch
10:25 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
Dory, I don't think wwwd was making a threat to my son, he isn't that stupid.
Dory Degen
11:23 am on Saturday, December 3, 2011
well he did say he'd be watching your freshman son. how does he know you have a son who is a freshman, if you even do. you just never know on the internet. you don't have to be stupid to be dangerous.
Willy
11:06 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
And// another sports coach getting in trouble for not disicplining his team... This time in Mass. This kids where thrown out of school!!!
http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Hoops-hazing-back-in-crosshairs-after-disgusting?urn=highschool-wp9312
Not one of the nine
11:30 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
@Sally the loser. So how was that looooong ride home from Newark today? Bwaahahaha. Did you stop by the outback for a blooming onion on the way back? Bwahahaha. At least you'll be able to take advantage of the early bird special this Saturday. Bwaahahahahahahahahha.
Frank
11:35 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
Take a moment to : STOP...LOOK...LISTEN
Just a few stories from--- Local, Regional, and National Media Outlets
Associated Press -
http://wor710.com/Judge-upholds-NJ-football-players--suspensions/11624043
New York Post
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/football/judge_upholds_ban_of_new_jersey_UoYR9S6Kk9IVWkgSb1ZAmI
The Chicago Tribune
http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/wpix-football-players-suspended-113011,0,5322418.story
FOX News Insider
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/11/22/why-did-high-school-in-wayne-new-jersey-allow-football-players-to-play-despite-assault-charges/
WFAN- Rick Wolf with Dough Abrams 11/20/11
http://nyc.podcast.play.it/media/d0/d0/d0/dZ/dB/d9/dC/ZB9C_3.MP3?authtok=5561629961989004201_y6XouwUSrjrt2RQ5Sql2EHrV00w
WFAN- Rick Wolf Show http://nyc.podcast.play.it/media/d0/d0/d0/dZ/dC/dE/dN/ZCEN_3.MP3?authtok=5561629961989004201_XMpzP29jhd1QldU2hfoakW1Xr4o
CBS New York
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/video/6466834-wayne-hills-football-saga-takes-another-turn/
Yahoo Sports
http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/N-J-teens-play-in-win-semifinal-despite-violen?urn=highschool-wp8831
NJ 101.5
Rich
11:44 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
"They're punishing the innocent here," said Darren Del Sardo, an attorney representing one of the juveniles.
To the apologist, enabler , posters on the board, who have posted numerous times "You don't know what happened, you were not there"
What exactly was Del Sardo's response, when you emailed him your statement of indignation, that he unequivocally, stated their innocence, when he was NOT THERE?? Just curious.
Not one of the nine
12:32 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
Q. What does 60-9=?
A. The hills sideline on Saturday.
Bwhahahahahahah
DJ
12:39 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
Regardless of who started the fight ,,the fact remains.these 9 boys who play football know there is a code of conduct when playing a school sport.they should have known to remove themselves from the situation.instead being the classless thugs they are all 9 jumped on to 2 other boys.Basically shows me there mentality as well as immaturity.So they get what they deserve.
Its just sad that there parents are so pathetic and dont instill some discipline in there kids.The parents should never have needed all this to happen.They should have taken it upon themselves and sat there child from the football games. i mean lets be real its been what a month,if there kid wasnt involved after all this time im sure some of the charges on some of the kids would have been dropped already.I think that speaks for its self.
careless fills
5:18 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
Spot on! Methinks football players are USUALLY taught not retaliate since that nearly guarantees an unsportsmanlike penalty whilst the original offender often goes scott free. Perhaps they missed learning that "life-long lesson" from their esteemed coach. This is for the lawyer who claims that they were defending themselves. If they really were, as he claims, then they still need to limit their action to self defense, and what happened seems to have gone beyond that. As you said, they should have removed themselves from the situtation.
Dory Degen
11:26 am on Saturday, December 3, 2011
@Careless fills
you are right they probably were taught as football players not to retaliate, but alcohol tends to impair judgment.
notwhoyouthink
7:48 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
You'll find out tomorrow who is actually eligible to play. Even tho' many refuse to accept this - eight of the nine kids are minors, so there isn't a lot of accurate information floating around. Like it or not, some may have been wrongly accused and charged, and it will be corrected today.
You'll see...and if they actually prove they weren't involved, you'll have to start asking other questions about the credibility of the investigation, charges, witnesses, etc.
Willy
11:52 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
So... Let me get this right... There's a fight on the side of the road?? The police show up and find 2 boys that were atatcked... The police then investigated and charged someone with assault that was out of the state?? Please... Where are we star trek... Beam me up Scottie... The student had be be Wayne to be charged that night.
irapasses
1:59 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
so maybe the lsson is to pick your friends WISELY because if you associate with thugs you will somehow 1 day be branded a thug. its called guilt by association
Al Scala
8:09 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
Hopefully, the Commissioner will not change anything and these young men will feel the consequences of their actions. Now, on to the criminal matter!
Phyllis Rec
8:15 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
Last night , Fox news finally reported this incident as a fight, not a nine on two. It was stated that no one was left unconscious and in fact the injuries were minor on both sides. That information and the fact that some of the accused were not involved or even in attendance makes you question the police investigation and the statements made thereafter.
Frank
9:00 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
@Phyllis Rec
FYI- Fox did not report it as a "fight" you may want to watch it again.
Attorney for the accused stated "that no one was left unconscious and in fact the injuries were minor on both sides".
http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/court-hearing-for-suspended-football-players-20111201-APX
not one of the nine
9:15 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
I've heard that the Kearney baseball team is looking for a scrimmage on Saturday.
Does anyone know of 9 young men who are free to play them?
Bwahahahahhaha
Phyllis Rec
9:25 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
How do you know are you the coach?
not one of the nine
9:55 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
No Phallic I saw a sign on Rte 3.
I'll be selling bullhorns out front tomorrow to cheer the boys on.
Instructions will read,
remove from box,
see teachers face,
aim horn,
pull trigger.
Bwahahahahaha. Don't worry, I have a million of these.
Phyllis Rec
7:10 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
Dear not one,,,,not very adult of you to call me phallic when my name is phyllis. You say I'm immature?
exWaynefan
9:21 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
The credibility of the investigation? Let's get real please!
The incident HAPPENED, whether you like it or not. The 11 kids involved I'M SURE have had to make statements as to their involvement.
Where does credibility lie!
The police arrested & charged the 9 boys with aggravated assault because the circumstances to which they became witness to WARRANTED those charges.
"2" boys [who had LEFT the party] were accosted, beaten, kicked, and left on the road. ANYONE present at the time of that beating and allowing it to result in 2 injured boys being left on the road is "guilty" of something! Whether they ALL participated in inflicting injuries, or they just stood there and allowed it to happen. What participation EACH of the 9 charged individuals had in this is what is being investigated, AND LET ME TELL YOU that if just ONE of those 9 boys "wasn't even there" then SHAME on all of you who made it more important to support the motions and lawsuits against the school for ALL "9" to PLAY IN A FOOTBALL GAME, rather than clear the "innocent"!
Credibility? This is more a matter of "Lack of accountability"! The coach, parents, and players have decided that no "ONE" player is more guilty than the other.
No "ONE" player has been "in their eyes" deserving of a suspension.
It's been over a month for God's sake! All the focus and concern for 'some' of you has been on ALL "9" continuing to play football! ALL NINE?? I don't think so.
You have to be worthy of credibility...remember that.
Ron
9:37 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
One lesson we should all learn from this ordeal, no one should be a substitute for being a parent.
Our society has deferred parenting to Nanny's, Schools, Teachers, Coaches, xboxes and anyone else who will allow for parental activities to be uninterrupted.
We are all guilty of it on some level, that does not necessarily make us bad parents.
So how do we differentiate good parenting from bad? One could argue a moment was at the BOE meeting where Students, Parents, Coach & AD failed to accept individual responsibility. They leaned on presumptions of innocence and used a team approach in defending bad behavior. More importantly how strange that not one parent, or student stood up and said I'm not guilty!
Any society would expect those young men involved would be held accountable by their parents. But since the parents, could not bring themselves to a result that would sit out their sons in a football game. That responsibility fell next to the Principle of Wayne Hills with input from the AD. Why the AD? because all involved were on a sports program representing their school and The Township of Wayne. And since the AD and the Coach are one in the same, the Coach won the argument with the Principle This happened because the coach wanted "his" boys to play football. Clearly the present conflict of interest of having a Coach also the AD has failed the interest of Wayne. One could argue this whole spectacle could have been avoided if we had an independent AD in Wayne.
Al Scala
10:30 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
Absolutely right Ron. I hope that the BOE will visit this issue with Olsen being both head coach and AD. Doesn't make sense. Bad choice by our BOE trustees. I think in their plan of this aftermath, they are going to look at this. Hopefully, they'll make a good decision and remove him from one of the two positions.
irapasses
1:56 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
leave him as coach . get a new no-nonsense AD that takes no cr*p and treats everyone fairly. Someone that will not be bullied by the football coach like Ascolese was. Go get Joe Clark. His 1st order of business will be to fire Olsen....again
454-SS
10:08 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
I thought it was very pathetic of their attorney to actually get on the news and state how distraught his client(s) were and that one was suffering from stomach pains and unable to eat. I did notice he did not mention how his clients stomach was when he was pounding his $200 sneakers in some kids face....he forgot that part....oh well maybe he was saving that for the next interview....LOL
Phyllis Rec
11:03 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
That is really not fair of you to say. You really don't know if his client was involved. You are also talking about someone's child. Don't stoop so low. Will younbenwilling to apologize if his client is cleared?
Dory Degen
11:19 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
when you beat up a kid and then get arrested and charged with a felony, then benched from games that is probably a normal response. its called feeling stressed. i feel bad for him but really, he has only himself to blame. and the coach, parents and other adults who let this mess become what it is.
Phyllis Rec
12:08 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
Dory HOW DO YOU KNOW!!!!!! Will you also apologize if and when he is cleared????? You seem like a fair person but you have everyone here convicted . Is itnthatbhard to believe that maybe he was not there? Stranger things have happened in this world.
Dory Degen
11:34 am on Saturday, December 3, 2011
Phyllis....i don't know, you are right, of course i wasn't there.. but suspending the boys from games who were arrested was the appropriate action given the circumstances. i am sorry we disagree. i am also soryy if you are related to one of these boys becasue i do believe they probably otherwise good kids, but just made bad choices that night. I think the biggest manipulation was what the coach did to these biys. instead of disciplining them (like benching them from a game or two) he paraded them around as an extension of his ego. he used them. and now look at this mess. i feel bad for all involved.
btw, if you are a parent of one of the nine....for the love of God please tell me you at least took his cell phone away.
not one of the nine
10:23 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
Q. Thuckering Thuckotash, where is that yellowed bellied "tweetin tweety" son of mine when I need him?
A. Busy yelling at reporters through his tweets about how "the beefsteak" makes everything right in the world. Bwahahahhah
InAwe
10:30 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
LMAO!
454-SS
10:41 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
Thats FUNNY!!
not one of the nine
10:39 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
Q. What is this noise? Pssssssssssssssst.
A. The air going out of that tunnel helmet that could only fit the coaches inflated ego head.
InAwe
11:00 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
I'm with Phyliss...might want to party with both of you. A little humor now and then...
Olsen Must go
10:54 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
OLSEN MUST GO, then the complicit Wayne BOE
This is another Paterno-like story, see what happens when a coach gets too powerful, arrogant and narcissistic and a clueless BOE goes along with him regardless....
If Olsen was to apply for a teaching/coaching job today his resume' would include:
Fired from St. Cecilias HS
Fired from Eastside HS
Suspended from Wayne for attacking another coach,
Hiring unauthorized coaches with drug records
Forcing existing coaches to pay out-of-pocket for unauthorized coaches
Playing his own 11 year old son in HS scrimmage
Verbally attacking and accusing other coaches of recruiting
Making a National fool and mockery of Wayne Township
This is just the stuff that has been published and is known to the public. How can this go on for so long? If Olsen was to apply for a job in Wayne today I would hope he would not be hired based on his prior record of bending rules and abusing his authority and being FIRED several times...
If Wayne BOE wouldn't hire him today based on his past history then he shouldn't be employed here today. He should be let go immediately......
I would rather have a 0-10 football team that is respected than an undefeated team that is as arrogant as its coach and despised by many in and out of Wayne
not one of the nine
11:36 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
On the 1st day of Xmas Wayne has gave to me, 1 month of salacious stories.
not one of the nine
11:40 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
On the 2nd day of Xmas Wayne has gave to me, 2 court cases and 1 month of salacious stories.
not one of the nine
11:41 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
On the 3rd day of Xmas Wayne has gave to me, 3 different decisions, 2 court cases and 1 month of salacious stories.
not one of the nine
11:41 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
On the 4th day of Xmas Wayne has gave to me, 4 maybe innocent, 3 different decisions, 2 court cases and 1 month of salacious stories.
not one of the nine
11:52 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
On the 5th day of Xmas Wayne has gave to me, 5 hour board meeting, 4 maybe innocent, 3 different decisions, 2 court cases and 1 month of salacious stories.
not one of the nine
11:42 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
On the 6th day of Xmas Wayne has gave to me, 6 misguided defenders, 5 hour board meeting, 4 maybe innocent, 3 different decisions, 2 court cases and 1 month of salacious stories.
not one of the nine
11:42 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
On the 7th day of Xmas Wayne has gave to me, 7 daily Carolina tweets, 6 misguided defenders, 5 hour board meeting, 4 maybe innocent, 3 different decisions, 2 court cases and 1 month of salacious stories.
not one of the nine
11:43 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
On the 8th day of Xmas Wayne has gave to me, 8 mystery felons, 7 daily Carolina tweets, 6 misguided defenders, 5 hour board meeting, 4 maybe innocent, 3 different decisions, 2 court cases and 1 month of salacious stories.
not one of the nine
11:46 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
On the 9th day of Xmas Wayne has gave to me, 9 upstanding student athletes, 8 mystery felons, 7 daily Carolina tweets, 6 misguided defenders, 5 hour board meeting, 4 maybe innocent, 3 different decisions, 2 court cases and 1 month of salacious stories.
not one of the nine
11:47 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
On the 10th day of Xmas Wayne has gave to me, 10 pounds of beefsteak, 9 upstanding student athletes, 8 mystery felons, 7 daily Carolina tweets, 6 misguided defenders, 5 hour board meeting, 4 maybe innocent, 3 different decisions, 2 court cases and 1 month of salacious stories.
not one of the nine
11:47 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
On the 11th day of Xmas Wayne has gave to me, 11 recruiters not coming, 10 pounds of beefsteak, 9 upstanding student athletes, 8 mystery felons, 7 daily Carolina tweets, 6 misguided defenders, 5 hour board meeting, 4 maybe innocent, 3 different decisions, 2 court cases and 1 month of salacious stories.
not one of the nine
11:48 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
On the 12th day of Xmas Wayne has gave to me, 12 years since last Olsen suspension, 11 recruiters not coming, 10 pounds of beefsteak, 9 upstanding student athletes, 8 mystery felons, 7 daily Carolina tweets, 6 misguided defenders, 5 hour board meeting, 4 maybe innocent, 3 different decisions, 2 court cases and 1 month of salacious stories.
Dory Degen
11:36 am on Saturday, December 3, 2011
omgosh i don't normally laugh at sarcastic remarks but that was creative!
not one of the nine
11:49 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
Merry Xmas everyone. Bwahahahahahah
Michelle
11:57 am on Friday, December 2, 2011
I'm just putting this out there. Have heard from a few people who were there that at party that least one boy was NOT there. So put it this way, he should be fighting to be involved in the game. We do not know what his parents are doing to clear him of the charges. So is it wrong to let him sit this one out? I have always been pro not letting the charged play but this information I got disturbs me. How does he get punished for the WRONGFUL acts of others. And I'm not saying the others should play. I'm merely stating that he shouldn't be left out of the game.
Rich
12:06 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
There are stories that one or two "may" not have been present. However, as a Police officer friend of mine mentioned to me, if this was in fact the case, after 5 full weeks, it is not realistic to think that if there was rock solid evidence to the back this up, that the charges would have been dropped already. There is significant commentary coming from WPD , that there are forces at work providing bad information about the events that evening, and an concerted effort of misleading investigators to protect those charged. Rumor has it additional charges of hindering an investigation, may be considered on one or more parties. Stay Tuned.
Michelle
12:15 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
Thanks for the nice civil comment. And thanks for the info. :)
Phyllis Rec
12:18 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
Rich are you saying that the Wayne pd has spoken to you about this? is the allowed? Why would you know these things?
DJ
1:28 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
rich
,that is so true. i was told the same thing. if these so called kids were not there ,then why in the hell after 1 month would they still be charged and not dropped..also what kinda friends do they have by not coming forward and excepting responsiablilty and saying that these 1 or 2 guys were not there..shows u how shallow these boys are..all sink or swim.
irapasses
1:50 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
not at the party.....but the alleged fight was not actually at the party. The reports say the beatdown was down the street from the party. There are many scenarios where a kid might have been at the beatdown, but not at the party. Semantics
Phyllis Rec
1:58 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
Ira have you seen the police report?
Bob
12:54 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
It's sad that it took this long to finallly come to the correct decision on this matter. This should have been handled in a more profesional manner from day one. The school & the borard need to establish a set policy on issues such as ithis. All the people of Wayne want to see is justice and its not about winning a State championship or about the Coach. Its about the incident that took place on October 29th and here we are December 2nd and we finally got it right. Now lets' have the court system handle the case and let the true facts be told. ad that it got broadcast on the radio and the front page of the newspaper. A black mark for the people of Wayne & the school..
DJ
1:32 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
i wonder if it was worth it? 9 pathetic boys beating up 2 kids and losing there chance to play for a state championship. best thing about it they arent even allowed in the stadium to watch the game.. none of them are allowed in metlife stadium.
Phyllis Rec
1:52 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
The best thing about it? Does this make you happy? Now that is pathetic.
Rich
2:23 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
Phyliss,
The Police Office friend of mine is not WPD, he was making a educated guess on charges that either have no merit or where evidence is overwhelming to dismiss. In his opinion, there are no reason for either Passaic County or WPD to keep those two "others" on such serious charges if in fact the evidence pointed differently. In fact if they were to do so, it could impact the rest of the investigation negatively.
The other information on the "misleading" the investigation, actually come from friends of ours who have a son on WH (no, not at the party or the fight, but yes on the team.) This is information that I imagine is being shared amongst the Hills Football parents.
Phyllis Rec
2:39 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
Rich,
Thanks for the response. My only wish is that your friend was on the WPD because he seems to actually know what he is talking about.
John
2:46 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
What country do I live in??????? What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty???? The mob mentality that has surrounded this case disgusts me as an American. Non of the people commenting on this story have all the facts, yet all are so quick to rush to judgement and crucify ALL nine student athletes before due process has been served. When the facts are all in and due process has been served those found to be guilty will suffer the consequences...AS THEY SHOULD! In the mean time, it would be better that 8 guilty individuals play in this game than one be unjustly punished. To those commentators who would trivialize the punishment by spouting "it's only a football game!!!!", you simply don't get it!!! Students who have reached this level of play have invested in many cases 10 years of hard work, dedication and commitment...IT IS A BIG DEAL TO TAKE AWAY THE RIGHT TO PLAY IN THE GAME THAT REPRESENTS THE PINNACLE of all of those years of effort. For those that are truly guilty, they deserve losing that right... To take that away from an innocent student athlete is a travesty.
Rich
3:01 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
John, I don't think anyone is convictng these kids. This is not about their guilt or innocence . That is for the Police and Lawyers and Judges to hash out. Although I graduated from high school a few decades ago,I do have kids at WVHS, and I know that susepenions , and expulision and reprimanding happens all the time without it being a criminal matter. Should Jerry Sandusky get his job back at Penn State until the verdict is in? Programs funded by tax payer money require a different and higher standard. and if there is any question at all about improper dealings or behavior there needs to be a step back. Frankly if the post season was so important to these kids, I am not sure that going to an alcohol party on halloween weekend was the best way to show it. In any event, there does need to be accountability. See this link from Matawan High, and what happened with lesser actions by the students.
http://www.app.com/article/20111202/NJNEWS/312010100/Police-5-Matawan-Regional-football-players-broke-into-Manasquan-HS-lockers?odyssey=nav%7Chead
not one of the nine
3:18 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
Yay, school has let out and the students can sign in and yell about due process until tomorrow night.
John
4:25 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
Rich, I'm 100% in favor of appropriately punishing kids who are found to be guilty and 100% against risking that some innocent kids will be unfairly punished. There has been no attempt to appropriately gather facts and draw proper conclusions, only a knee jerk politically-weak-willed reaction to the mob mentality of misinformed public sentiment.
Dory Degen
11:41 am on Saturday, December 3, 2011
The fact is they were arrested for a felony. Very unsportsmanlike. And there are consequences to actions in our good town. Thank God.
I know it seems unfair and I am sorry this has upset you so much.
Lilly Brown
2:47 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
bummer, looks like the boys will have to watch it from home with their tissues..LOL
Final decision has been made!
Phyllis Rec
2:57 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
LOL really Lilly? So sad that you think any of this something to laugh about. Go out this weekend and do something rewarding and worthy of LOL'ing about. Disgusting
Kitty Kat
3:13 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
Thank you Commissioner of Ed.
http://www.nj.com/hssports/blog/football/index.ssf/2011/12/wayne_hills_football_players_have_denied_appeal_upheld.html
Rich
3:34 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
Well, at least the Parents, can stop spending money on these shark lawyers, and start putting the money to the defense of their children against serious charges. The money spent to try to get a legal remedy against a suspension of extracuricular activity was not only wasteful, but caused the Hills program and Wayne to have such a negative spotlight on it, I cannot imagine why any sane person, would have gone this route. It really makes you wonder who was driving this bus. I wouldn't be suprised if it was coming from somewhere else than the parents themselves.
Scott
3:30 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
This whole court case and issue with a weak board of ed SHOULD be completely moot. If the parents of these kids involved had done the right thing, none of them would have even been playing anyway.
George
4:18 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
I am pleased with the decisions rendered and believe the suspensions adn barring from extracuricular activities is the proper outcome. Furthermore I am not a fan of Coach Olsen or how he runs his program at WH. While I cannot dispute his results in terms or win and losses, it seems to me he is falling short on teaching more important life lessons. All that said, I am wishing well to the remainder of the WH football team who were not involved in the "incident" and have worked hard to get to this level.
Al Scala
4:33 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
Glad to see the Commissioner of Education upheld the recommendation from the Administrative Law Judge. Finally, common sense prevails.
irapasses
4:47 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
its not that hard to figure out who they are even if they were allowed to play. the final decision is public record and has all of the players initials on it. grab a roster.. not too hard to match up
http://media.nj.com/njcom_football_blog/other/Wayne%20Hills%20commissioner%20decision%20in%20pdf.pdf
John
4:53 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
Ira, what document has all the players initials on it?
Phyllis Rec
7:26 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
Jesus you would actually spend your time trying to figure out who they are? You need to get a hobby
K
7:57 am on Saturday, December 3, 2011
These kids are minors, you didn't have to let everyone know how to figure out who they are. YOU helped take away the kids rights on this point, congrats. Innocent or not, they deserve to have their identities concealed.
irapasses
5:02 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
the final decision from the Commissioner of Education. i posted the link above. It is easily accessible on the internet. If the parents or coach just disciplined these kids internally their names (or initial in this case) would have never been published ANYWHERE.Even if they won the case this document would have revealed their identities so I really dont get the "irreperable harm" thing as stated . Suiting up or not suiting up would not hide the facts that these 9 brought a case in front of a Judge in NJ!!
Rich
5:15 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
Interesting isn't it. Sort of Hypocritical, to go up in front of a Judge or Commisioner and as your main point of contention, is revealing your identity by your absence from the field on game night, but you voulntarily put your initials on a "Public" document,for all to see and cross reference against the WH Football website with the Roster listed. Have to wonder if Cerf was a bit amused by their Lawyers defense, or lack of...
abbie
6:01 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
Just an explanation: the students at Wayne Hills have a pep rally or spirit week rally every year and at the beginning of the year (before this incident) the student council leaders for each grade pick a name that goes with the color that is assigned for that grade. For instance, Pink is freshmen, purple is juniors, anyway, the students pick names that sound cool and pick a theme around it. This year the juniors decided on the Purple Police, as I said way before the incident. Now it's reported that the police is being disrespected in the school because the students were booing the police. Well, the truth is that the freshmen boo all other grades when they are introduced, then the sophs, then juniors and so on, so when the police, or junior purple police was introduced they were boo'd as were the Orange Seniors and the rest of the grades. It was in fun and unfortunately now it's turned into another made-up story from people who are full of crap
Phyllis Rec
7:14 pm on Friday, December 2, 2011
Thank you Abbie you may also want to let the selfrighteous idiots on this sight that food and money were raised and donated to the poor by the students involved.
Frank
8:10 am on Saturday, December 3, 2011
So basically what you are saying is that Superintendent Roth lied under oath???
I don't think so!
Phyllis Rec
8:19 am on Saturday, December 3, 2011
Frank, good morning, it is quite possible the mr Roth did not fully understand the spirit rally event and that in fact one of the classes was the police. Further, did someone tell Roth this went on or did he personally witness this? And how in the world, with a gym filled with the entire student body, would you be able to tell who was yelling what. It is possible again that there were chants regarding the police but I would put my life on it that the remarks were regarding the PURPLE POLICE. Thanks for listening.
Dory Degen
11:54 am on Saturday, December 3, 2011
for crying out loud....pep rallies, food for the poor, purple police, ugh, i don't care.
the boys can't play in games, they have been charged with a serious crime, a felony i believe. now the town can start to figure out how to move forward, i.e, continue with the present leadership or not (Olsen, BOE). and the boys and their parents can prepare for court, and eventual trial gathering from the not guity plea i am expecting.
i am wondering two things.....when is their first court appearance. and can someone please tell me that at the very least when this first happened the boys' parents took their cell phones away?