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Students May Play In Football Game Friday; Extracurricular Ban On Hold

Board makes decision after holding 4-hour hearing with players.

 

Nine Wayne Hills football players may participate in the team's game Friday against Paramus, after the Board of Education voted unanimously at a standing-room only meeting to hold off on an extracurricular activities ban placed on the players earlier this week.

The Board of Education and Interim superintendent held a 4-hour, closed-door hearing with players and their legal representatives to discuss the charges and the evidence in the case, after a heated, standing-room only public meeting Thursday night that continued into the early morning hours. 

The board emerged from the hearing at about 1 a.m. Friday morning and read its decision to a group of some 30 people, including team members and their families, who remained in the crowd. Some cried as the verdict was read and the group quickly dispersed once the meeting was adjourned.

"The evidence presented at the hearing which the board and the superintendent, had not previously had access to, raised substantial concern regarding the nature and extent of the involvement of some of the students in the incident," said Board President Donald Pavlak Jr.

The stay was placed pending a hearing to be held Nov. 29 at the board's office, "so that additional facts and information can be considered," Pavlak said.

The decision came after a contentious meeting in which hundreds of residents, including several dozen members of the Wayne Hills football program, wearing their black and maroon team jerseys, crowded into the municipal complex. A large majority was there to show support for the players, who had been barred from participating in games for the remainder of the season. 

Interim Superintendent Michael Roth on Wednesday suspended all nine players, including 18-year-old star receiver Andrew Monaghan, from participating in extracurricular activities until further notice. Roth allowed the players to participate in the team’s 48-0 drumming of Vernon last week.

Roth said that his decision was not focused on the team or the coach, both of which, he said, have a record of excelling in what they do. He said district administrators reviewed all the information presented to them before the decision was made.

No items relating to the incident were included on the meeting agenda.

The players were charged Nov. 8 with aggravated assault after allegedly attacking two Wayne Valley High School students on Urban Club Road on Oct. 29, police previously said.

Police Chief John Reardon said the two Valley students were walking on Urban Club Road when the Hills students drove up in an SUV and perhaps another vehicle, got out, and assaulted the Valley students.

Varsity football coach Chris Olsen said this past week "has been a nightmare."

Olsen, a 27-year Wayne resident and seven-time state champion, said that he was called a "pig" and other names in various e-mails he received. He said his wife was called a "whore."

Olsen said that two of the players charged were not at the incident and that two of the other players witnessed the incident but were not involved in it.

He said his son Kevin was not one of the boys charged and that he did not need the nine players to win the Vernon game last week. Wayne Hills is 9-1 this season. According to maxpreps.com, Olsen boasts a career record of 80-5.

Several residents spoke in support of Olsen and the players.

"I have never met a person more committed to his players," Sue Wilcox said. "He teaches a measure of giving to others."

One resident compared what is happening to the players to the Salem witch hunts that occurred in Massachusettes in the 1600s.

Former board trustee Darren Del Sardo, who is representing one of the players, said that his client is innocent. He said his client passed a polygraph test "with flying colors," proving his client was not present at the incident.

But a 50-year resident argued that he has not heard anyone express remorse over what allegedly occurred.

"Why aren’t I hearing that? I’m hearing, 'you should let us play,' and 'you should give us due process', he said. "I would like to hear, 'I’m sorry'."

Related Topics: Aggravated Assault and wayne hills football

Wayne resident

9:07 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011

I heard a lot about due process, nothing about the fact that the decision to bench those involved is triggered by the new Anti Bullying laws. The two are not one of the same. Those charged will have their criminal hearing, however, the fighting is covered under the anti bullying laws and the BOE has an obligation to follow those laws and act accordingly. I think it's such a shame that this incident has further divided this town.

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John Wayne

8:41 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Hey dude - aren't you really Coach Olsen with a psuedonym?

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the dude

9:01 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

You are pretty sharp, you should volunteer to help the WPD with this case. You can work side-by-side with stewart resmer...head rabble-rouser irapisses appointed him lead investigator.

Aren't you really John Wayne Gacy...and you just dropped the Gacy?

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stewart resmer

9:22 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

uh dude? the WPD woulld be well advised to refer this matter over to the sheriffs department in order to avoid excatly what has happened here with an apparent stalled investigation now that wits may no longer be speaking with them for what ever reasons they may have.

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dear wayne hills

6:04 pm on Sunday, November 20, 2011

I a wayne valley student was at the fight and the people that say they were not at the fight were. Every student accused was at the fight and the fact that they are not being punished for the things that they have done is wrong. This has put a bad name to our town and has created even more of a rivalry between hills and valley. People think that they can just do anything and get away with it now. If it wasnt the top 9 star players of the football team people would not even care if these kids were suspended or not. If this was the other way around and valley students were the ones beating up on hills students these kids would not be able to play in a heartbeat and they would also have been suspended from school. I talked to one of the football coaches and they said they wouldnt even have to think about suspending them from football it would be automatic. It is pretty immature that even parents only care about football more than they care about actual kids. If it was there kids they would be fighting for them not to play and to be in trouble for this crime.
Kids>Hills Football
#teamgrantandz

the dude

9:12 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011

The right sort of people do not want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean advantage of them.

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the dude

10:42 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011

JW - A sincere apology is something that is offered to you. Wanting an apology is selfish.

The wrong sort of people will use your apology against you in the future, they won't let it go.

Now climb, grasshopper, become the right sort.

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John Wayne

10:29 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Dud - Stick to football, leave the wisecracking to people with a sense of humor.

dfg

9:28 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011

As a Wayne Valley student, I am appalled. Do these parents and alumni from Hills really only care about football? If it were up to me, I would have expelled these kids. THEY ARE CRIMINALS. They beat two children two the ground and continued to do so even after they were unconscious. You think that this story isn't what it seems? Well then I hope someone can trace their phone calls and texts from that night when they were LAUGHING about the situation and said it was the funniest thing they have ever done. Rumors have spread that they were saying things that suggested that they actually had intentions of murdering the children. That is truly DISGUSTING.

In my opinion, these kids should be behind bars at this very moment. Parents, I'm sorry, but your kids are not who they think they are. I'll admit, I do not personally know the boys, but I do know kids who where there that night, and they were scared beyond belief. If that were Andrew Monaghan or any of the boys from the Hills football team that ended up the hospital, there would certainly be expulsions and Olsen would have gone mad. (cont)

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dfg

9:34 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011

I'm so disappointed that people forgot about the children's LIVES at the meeting this evening. Instead, we listened to garbage speeches about the Salem Witch Trials and Kim Kardashian. As a town, we need to realize what happened that night was truly a tragedy. Those boys should be punished severely, because they clearly knew what was going on. I hope there will be thorough investigations that lead to justice finally being served. These kids committed a SICK SICK SICK CRIME, and need to realize that their behavior was irrational, disturbing, and beyond foolish.

Why did this fight happen? Because the Hills boys wouldn't leave a "Hills Party".

Don't forget that the TWO Valley boys were younger than all NINE Hills boys... And (although some continue to deny it...) Hills football uses steroids, so just imagine what kind of an unfair fight that could have been.

Young children's lives > Hills Football.

Shame on our community.

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Betty Boop

7:18 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

dfg,
Did you not hear anything that went on in that meeting???? Two boys were not even present at the fight. How can you justify punishing them along with all the other boys without finding out who was guilty and who was innocent???? How old are you?? You have alot to learn about this world, obviously. We are all sorry that kids got hurt, no one thinks that OK but all we want is the innocent to go free and the guilty to be punished when all the truth comes out we will know the answer to that.

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John Wayne

8:47 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Boop - did you not hear anything that went on at the meeting???. 7 players did take part in the beating. How can you justify rewarding them along with the innocent 2. How old are you? You have a lot to learn about the world, obviously. You are not sorry really thatkids got hurt. You think that is OK but all you want is for the guilty to go free and the innocent to be punished.

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Go Figure

9:08 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Hey Betty - All have gone free and we still dont know who is innocent or guilty, and maybe will never know. There's a victim so hard to see why some have likened this to a witchunt, a reckless (not wrecklass) police chief or a coward board super (just another ill-advised bully tweet). All of them should be punished to route out the offenders. What's obvious is that this back and forth with the decision to play/not play is an embarrassment to our town. dfg made some good points, is not hard of hearing, and your ignorance shows a little because dfg's age is irrevelent to the discussion. Perhaps it is you that needs to learn a little about the world.

Ron

9:42 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011

How about hearing "How's the Valley boy doing in his recovery" How are his parents handling this tragedy"? What can we do to help these 2 families?" NO!! All you hear is Hills boys are innocent, Olsen is the best, blah blah HILLS! I am a Hills parent and I can't believe the callousness and the ego of the Hills people involved in this tragedy. I am so ashamed to be a part of this school. And who the hell is Sue Wilcox? And frankly who the hell cares!!! Another butt buddy of his or more.

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John Wayne

9:46 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011

Sue Wilcox - Olsen doesn't give. He's taking. He has thrown his nine players under the bus because he "doesn't need them to win". He knows which of the nine were involved, but he took no steps for the uninvolved or against the involved.
If Olsen had disciplined the players, all this ruckus, and devisive rhetoric, including Supt. Roth's embarrassing flip flop, could have been avoided.

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Betty Boop

9:03 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Oh come on "John Wayne" you are so one sided but it's too bad that you are on the loosing side. Do you know any of the facts beside what you heard at the meeting?? I guess not or you wouldnt be making these rediculous statements.

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John Wayne

10:46 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Boop - I am not on the "loosing" side. but I see that your Wayne Hills language arts education is on a par with the football program.
What I heard at the meeting were Hills football players tyng up seats while the grown-ups stood. I heard the black shirts intimidating all who would speak up for right.

I heard Olsen say that "his week was a nightmare". I didn't say my week was a nightmare because 9 blackshirts might follow me in an SUV. Poor Olsen.
If he had taken appropriate steps to discipline the team members that are at fault I would be praising him.

I heard two accused Hills players weren't present - which by using mathematics tells me 7 players were, of course (using Wayne Hills math) no players are responsible.

I heard that "Wayne belongs to the Hills". That the Board and Sup't belong to the Hills'

Boop - let's agree that you are one sided, and you are on the "loosing' side.

George

9:47 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011

I can't help but wonder if theses kids were suspended from school, unable to attend class but were still allowed to play football, how many people that were in attendance do you think would have been there tonight? And that includes Coach Olsen. I suspect almost nobody. I think they should get their priorities straight. I also agree with the speaker tonight who asked where are the apologies, or remorse?

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Jessica

9:54 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011

I am so sickened, but unfortunately not surprised. We see this often, parents showing their kids, "we will always get you out of trouble, you are never responsible".
What is even more ridiculous is the quoting of "due process". I guess these devoted football parents know more about the process of suspending extra curricular activities than the actual administrators of our school. Did you know that a teacher can search a locker of a student without a search warrant? The due process you are speaking about is not the same as a criminal conviction! Since when does suspending from a sports team the same as a serving time in jail. I will not cry for the Wayne Hills football team, and certainly not Coach Olsen- who has no regard for the reputation of Wayne Hills High School. There are two boys that were beat up, and when you hear the Football parents talk, you would think the true story is that the Valley boys beat themselves up. I guess we need to hear the real story- huh??? I applaud Mr. Roth, he is a very intelligent, fair man that has done so much more for this school district than that football coach you call God. Your children will never respect authority, and that is why 9 bullies ganged up on 2 smaller boys. And where are their parents? Maybe they should have had the proper parental nerve to tell their boys," You were in a fight, you got arrested, now you don't play football. Thank you Mr. Roth- don't be intimidated by the ignorant and insensitive "Family"

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Wayne Valley Student

9:54 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011

As a Wayne Valley student it is just disgusting to see that this entire situation has focused around football. None of us know exactly what happened that night but when students are accused of leaving two sophomores unconscious on the side of a road, action must be taken. Many arguments were made claiming that this was a violation of the Hills Football Players rights to "due process". However, none of the decisions made were legal decisions. The players are not going to be given the opportunity to play because, as a town, we cannot risk allowing these students to continue on with their daily lives without consequence. They are not allowed to play in the state game tomorrow because they may have been involved in a serious crime. The Superintendent wisely suspended them from extra curricular activities, this decision does NOT require any form of due process. The Hills parents are technically claiming that all suspensions made within our schools should first go through due process (trials, court cases, etc.). It's insanity.
More importantly, this entire situation should not be about football. Wayne's football obsession has reached an ultimate high and must be controlled. I have always thought that football has taken too high of a stance in our school's priorities, but this is a new high. Fact of the matter is, we need to realize the importance of the matter (two innocent kids were assaulted), and we all need to forget football and get our priorities straight.

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Kate

9:59 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011

If one of these 9 boys were my child, there would be NO concern about playing football because I would have broken my son's legs!!

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Jack

10:25 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011

I need to add this, I was also ashamed to see people I knew, and thought I respected, supporting Olsen and his team. Please read these postings! You looked like a bunch of fools tonight. I sincerely hope national news didn't attend the BOE meeting tonight. That woman who quoted Salem witch hunts? Or DelSardo getting all huffy about his paid client (how much per hour?). The best was the tributes to Coach Olsen, who didn't have the morality or character to do the right thing last week. Do us a favor Olsen, go collect your pension and call it a career. It can only get worse at this point.

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John M

11:19 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011

Olsen has done things over the years that were wrong and so did I and so did you! Pay attention I guess you did not hear all that was said and all that has happened. This event has nothing to do about football, Coach Olsen, Mrs. Olsen The media has made this an example. Right after the BOE meeting Channel 12 ran the story saying there was an angry and heating debate bewteen parents who were angry. No it was no such thing. I thought the audience and speakers were all calm and had good points! I do see some comments and blogs that definitely have a dislike of football. Olsen will deal with the students when the facts are known. If guilty they will apologize! The rest of you leave Sue Olsen alone!
Coach Olsen just to the right thing when you know! In the meantime beat Paramus!

iPad

10:58 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011

If the parents in this town punished their own kids for their horrible actions, we wouldn't have had to wait this long to have a decision made. If one of the Hills kids were my son, his a$$ would have been home in his room instead of on the football field playing Vernon last week. Instead, these parents were in the stands cheering on their kids as if they were celebrities. Where are your priorities and morals? Fighting and bullying is NOT OK!

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Rich

11:13 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011

I was truly amazed at what I saw adults do this evening. Let's face it, kids will be kids and if they come out in support and defend each other, that is, what it is. But for adults to come out and minimize what took place that evening and confuse "Criminal Jurisprudence" with "Board of Ed, or School Administrative punishment" is really beyond the pale.

I heard so many mixed metaphors, and confusion in regards to "Innocent until proven guilty" I was truly amazed. No one is being put in jail, or fined, or has a criminal record. They just lost PRIVILEGES, "not rights" . The Lawyer made a fool of himself, and though he was F. Lee Wayne Hills, standing in the Municipal Building like it was a court of law.

Ultimately, this is all about ACCOUNTABILITY. If you want to be a student athlete, you need to realize the tax payers, who ultimately fund a portion of these sports will want to hold you to a higher standard. Keep your nose clean. If you want to party and slug it out, that's ok, just take a pass on the sports. You can't have it all.

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Wayne resident

9:49 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Great point and what about the alcohol factor???did the drinking age change in Wayne NJ or just because the kids will eventually drink, we should all turn our backs and let them do so as minors. What is it that we are teaching our kids: go out, have fun, lets not worry about illegal drinking as minors as long as you're popular. Wake up people. Who monitored the party? if a kid showed up at my house drunk (as has been stated by the so called people at the party) as an adult, the homeowner had an obligation to call the minors partents and have them picked up. Are these so called adults hoping that by turning their backs to minors drinking (or providing???) they can be the cool parents and their kids popular? So many things went wrong here that triggered this incident and if in fact the kids came back after the party broke up, that would be a planned attack on the other 2 students which is even more criminal. As far as the football aspect, if the students involved were baseball or hockey or basketball or bowling players, it would reflect poorly on those teams and those coaches.

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Michelle

10:06 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Excellent point! The parents of these children should be ashamed of themselves! Why is it always left up to the school administrators to punish the children. Parents start being parents and teach your children manners and morals! As a parent of a child who was bullied in his Senior year, it sickens me that parents "lawyer up" when their children screw up....TAKE RESPONSIBILITY!

albert payson

11:16 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011

I saw a post on facebook tonight with a photo of the BOE meeting, I have not lived in wayne for several years. I am a WH alumni and am disgusted but not surprised. Olsen is more concerned about his legacy...did he run down his players suspected of doing this? Knowing the man like I did, I'm sure as hell he did...but like I said he's concerned about his legacy when he should be concerned about the 2 valley students. One of the posts above mentioned steroids, I can't confirm that but I know as a student slightly over 20 years ago, I had friends on the team who did take steroids and it was known by students, the coaches had no clue, hopefully they enact testing (if they haven't already). Olsen has to protect himself, his family, and his legacy, even though he wasn't involved...back in my day there were parties, there with fights that involved players, why was it looked at as "boys will be boys" then?? It shouldn't have...Olsen should accept his players fate and step back, so him and the players that weren't involved aren't tarnished by these thugs and what they did to the 2 kids from valley...one noble thing Olsen and WH Booster club could do is go one step further and all concession sales for the rest of the year...go towards medical/rehab bills for the 2 valley students...Coach Olsen help Stop the Hate! We are "Patriots" not "Thugs"!

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paul r

11:29 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011

Wow, all these different posters, all this outrage, all this concern for the small, young boys who were so viciously assaulted...yet only 2 people showed up to voice it in person. Makes me wonder...

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Willy

11:55 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011

Thats what happens when you are guilty! the 2 people had thousands of town residents supporting them by calling BOE, State Senator... etc... Tonight just shows the arrogance of WH football team... this has nothing to do with Olsen... it about 9 vs 2.... but all I heard was Olsen and Proven until innocent - If they didnt get into a SUV we wouldnt be here- Simple Physics... Every Action has a Result... thus the result... and really if they were innocent would you have a lawyer speak at 500 per hour... this is about a game... i would love to sit in the courtroom on this

Willy

11:59 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011

i wonder if 2 Wayne hills players where beat up by 9 Indian Hills players... what would Olsen and the families say then... they would probaly demand the board to sue Oakland and the school board... what a same and I laughed at the coaches and mothers... I now why this happened,,, if it was my kid... I would have left him in jail to teach him a lesson

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Jessica Brody

12:03 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Coach Olsen stated: " It's not about winning games and championships...we have enough of those. It's about the family ".
It was no surprise that 2 of the 9 alleged "gangsters" weren't even at the fight or the party, and the fact that the entire football team made themselves present and accountable says alot for the community that they represent.
I was shocked, but relieved to learn that both of the WV students that were allegedly pounded and left unconcise in the middle of the road, somehow recovered and walked out of the hospital a couple hours later with only a few minor cuts and bruises.
I was saddened to see that their own parents couldn't attend the meeting to give there side of the story, but I was outraged when the meeting was over and the WV football coach didn't come forward to demand justice, or punishment, or at least an apology.
Sitting at the meeting tonite, I couldn't help saying to myself "I Love Wayne Hills Football". I didn't always feel that way, I graduated from WH in the 70's and back then our program was just as bad as WV's is now. I used to go to the WV games and never missed the annual Thankgiving Day game. The coach, Stefinosky ( I think) ran his program similar as coach Olsen does at WH. If he was still the coach, I don't think any this would ever had happened. The boys wouldn't be crying all the time about losing, and there wouldn't be any cross town spit- swapping.

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John Wayne

4:13 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Jessica Brody, that you can't help but "love Wayne Hills Football" says it all. But Wayne Hills football couldn't care less about you. They denegrate Wayne, ethical values, fair play and sportsmanship. They abdicate their responsibility, even the parents, by replacing their G-d given responsibility to discipline their children with a criminal law standard (innocent until proven guilty). Just so they can win and you can be "sitting at the meeting" surrounded by all the black shirts that you "love".
Did you survey all the players at the meeting fondly and try to guess which ones had the violent, naughty spirit to break with all moral decency?
GET A LIFE

paul r

12:06 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

No, you're right, if I wasn't present at the time the crime I was accused of took place I wouldn't bother with a lawyer. I'd just idly sit by and watch myself get railroaded. I'm sure you'd do the same, right?

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Carlos Ocampo

12:28 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

This feels just like what happened to the Duke Lacrosse team.

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Willy

12:49 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

The duke team was hear say.... This is police showing up 2 a scene with 2 kids beaten so bad they where taken to the hospital

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abbie

10:12 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

duke was not hearsay, the boys were arrested and charged and the community shunned them because they all RUSHED to judgement without knowing all the facts, that's why it's similar.

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John Wayne

11:29 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Carlos this is different from Duke. This is like Penn State win at all costs and protect the team. Duke team was disbanded because Duke players broke curfew at a booty party, Wayne Hills breaks curfew, breaks code of conduct and breaks heads (excessive force), but no discipline. Carlos, man up and admit its not like DUKE at all.

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John Wayne

11:31 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

abbie below - Admit that Duke was Hearsay

John

12:56 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

I read a very interesting letter to the editor in The Record from a football player's father. He went on at length to speak about how Coach Olsen teaches his players much more than football, and how many of the players go on to bright futures and better colleges. He writes about Coach Olsen holding his players to higher code of conduct, by having a dress code and curfews (even for star players). My only question is if this is all true than didn’t the players violate the coach’s code of conduct? So why didn’t he take action? Or does the coach care more about a dress code and curfew then an assault.
The facts appear to be that the kids got out of a car or two to commit the assault, so they had a choice to drive away, by not making that choice they have to now pay the price of not holding up to the coach’s code, and the law. The ironic thing is if the Coach would have sat his players for the first playoff game the public outcry may have swung in his favor, and he would have had his players the rest of season. But the coach choose winning over his own code of conduct.

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John Wayne

11:24 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Coach Olsen's rules were broken, boys, evewn star Andrew Monaghan, broke curfew, broke dress code, and broke heads.
But Coach Olsen failed to discipline them.
What a FRAUD.

Pad

5:55 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Disgusting how the Wayne BOE caved in. When the lawsuits start they will be dragged into this. The parties involved in the assault should be suspended from playing until this is settled. If there is proof some weren't there they should be able to play. At the BOE meeting these people acted as nothing has happened and these children are saints. Far from the truth for some of the nine.

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George

6:56 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Don't the new anit-bullying laws apply hear?. I just saw a school head coach bully 9 weak, defenseless, flip flopping, putrid BOE members...clearly there must be some kind of law against that

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Justice

7:26 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

No surprise...look at the elections...look at the blogs...STATUS QUO AT ANY PRICE....that is the motto....if you don't like it, move out of town....or you will be pushed out of town...simple as that...To quote one blogger, no, no, no, the people of Wayne don't want change...it is such a beautiful town...

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Wayne resident

7:44 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

All of this could have been avoided had the BOE done the right thing to begin with. They should have launched their own investigation as per the new Anti-Bullying law that has been instituded, immediately after the incident, and come up with this same exact punishment by the end of the week after the incident. This would have saved the community from being ripped apart. Having said that, my child was involved in an incident which I myself disapproved of several years back and she lost a dance compitition. I wasn't sitting on my butt waiting for someone else to punish her, because at the end of the day, i am her guardian and i don't believe in the "not my child" mentality. When kids do things they shouldn't (and they will because they are kids, not criminals) it's up to the parents to send them the right message, Giving kids the sense of entitlement by making excuses and letting them off the hook, will not serve them well in the long run. I'm not a wayne valley or hills resident, I am a Wayne resident and I was a little disheartened to see all that took place during this incident and the way the adults behaved. The lack of action from the parents of the involved students as well as the BOE made this incident much worse than it needed to be

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Edna Malyack

7:55 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Here, here! I agree wholeheartedly. If my child were involved in something like this, coach would not have had to make the decision because my child would not have been at any of the games. Humanity is and always will be more important that ANY extra-cirricular activities! As for the student who was not involved, how then do the officers have his name? If you stand by and watch, you ARE involved!

careless fills

7:52 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Football is stupid, and it should be banned from all schools and as a youth activity.

Too many young men have had their health and lives ruined by injuries (including many mental, psychological, and social) suffered whilst playing this silly game.

All of the so called life lesson that proponents of football claim can be better learnt through a whole slew of othe activities, including nearly any other sport.

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Concerned Parent

8:00 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

So let me get this straight. The Wayne Police department, in two weeks, hasn't been able to determine who was/was not involved in this fight, but the WBOE figured it out in 4 hours? And because it's possible that A FEW of them weren't involved, all 9 of them get a free pass? Something stinks here.......

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Kel

8:12 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

That's why the decision was made behind closed doors.....so many politics in this town.....of course the WBOE was going to cave in...somehow the well-being of the 2 students who were beat up got lost in all this.

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Al Scala

8:20 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

I was at the meeting last night . I heard a lot about due process and the salem witch trials. I didn't hear much about the anti-bulling law. (HIB). I did read the law this morning. It does pertain to off school grounds. This was off school grounds. It also includes acts that will have the effect of physically & emotionally harming a pupil. I think this incident qualifies. It talks about any physical act. This qualifies. It talks about obeying constitutional authority. This qualifies. It talks about walking away from acts of HIB. These students didn't walk away. They got in their car and chased these kids down the strret. Did these kids who were involved violate this law/. I think so. Our trustees had to know about this shortly after it happened After all ,Pavlak is the records room mojo. They obviously did no due diligence and were not prepared for the onslaught on both sides of this argument. Maybe our students can teach them how to do their homework. They've flip-flopped twice on this now. Our trustees, their Board attorney obviously don't know the law or are willing to look the other way If we are paying our Board attorney more than minimum wage, we're paying her too much.

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Beavis

12:48 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

@Kel It was done behind closed doors to protect the identity of the minors that are allegedly involved here. There are juvenile rights they need to protect.

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Willy

4:08 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Probaly because the parents lawyered up for the kids which delays everything... There investigation did prove aggravated assault!! Not simple.... That's big. People...

rocketjsquirrel

8:06 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

If people in town had not turned this into a football issue it might have gone down a different path. So many negative comments about Coach Olsen and the WH program. It became an opportunity for people to use the situation (and use the two injured boys) to take shots at Olsen and the team. People called the entire team (yes, the ENTIRE team) things like "thugs, criminals, 'roid heads, gang members, etc." - people targeted Olsen, saying he should be fired. All of this without the facts. Many also used the papers and forums to further entice the community to go after the football team, program, and coach.

Guess what, it never was a football issue. But, do you really expect parents, players, and the coach to just take all the crap and mudslinging lying down?

And where were you all last night? If you feel so passionate about it, why don't you grow a set and show up and face the people you are accusing?

The board NEVER should have left this on the shoulders of Roth. He's leaving in 2 weeks and is not a stakeholder. And all the haters in this forum should not be surprised by the outcome. You used a HS fight and a couple of injured kids to launch an attack on others who had nothing to do with this event. Why???

You may not agree with the outcome, but many were very happy when they thought the decision was going the other way based on public outcry. Well, it works two ways. You should have showed up last night if you really care about it.

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Kel

8:18 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

It became about football because the arrested students were football players who Coach Olsen supposedly holds to a higher standard of behavior. It became about Coach Olsen because he claims to want to build character in his players but doesn't do anything when 9 of his players are arrested for assault.

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Beavis

12:51 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Very well said rocket.. I don't condone the actions, but why is it that no one hiding here bothered to show up last night and voice these opinions,.

Mike Devant

8:20 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

This incident shows how our society as a whole has lost it way!!! It displays everything that is disgusting...........coaches who use players for their own personal gain, mob beating, underage drinking, no supervision at a party, a principal that hides with guts, a BOE that cannot guarantee that all students will be protected, no apologies from anybody, a community that puts sports ahead of academics, idolotry, nihilism, and the list goes on. Very sorry state of affairs. I miss the ole Wayne from years back before these characters hijacked it. One thing is certain most of these kids will be lost souls in society since they have no critical thinking skills and no self control.

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BEAR BRYANT

8:23 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

how are the boys that got hurt doing are they being protected by state/schools laws.
they foot ball team should be put on probation for 2 years and the game should be forfitted tonight (wheres christie and state d.a's office on this matter sleeping.
its a crime whats going on . with all these commisions formed in schools sports and the dopes(coaches allowing the wayne team to play is a coverup between police /board of education is the adult on trail yet.

forfiet the game tonight whers al sharpten to march and protest

helllo

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irapasses

8:28 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

so if these kids were allowed to play football, but not allowed to be in school for academics would they have lawyered up and been out in full force at that meeting fighting for their rights to an education? we already know the answer, dont we? and now will every kid that is disciplined in our school systems be afforded a closed door private meeting with the BOE to state their case? Wow this could not have been handled worse. What will the apologists say when the plea bargains are negotiated ans the civil case verdict is read? Relief that they didnt have to miss a football game because that is the ONLY thing that matters. Somebody committed a crime that night, and many violated the new and bally-hooed HIB policy. what a laughingstock the BOE is

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RCRC1

9:45 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

they arent suspended from school

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John Wayne

11:20 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

RCRC1 - the Dude has nominated you for Whack Pack idiot of the Day

LZG

8:32 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

I have read all the comments posted the last several days on this issue. I am sad that as a Wayne resident this forum has become so divisive. I have one thing on which we should all agree- we don't know ALL the facts on this case. Because of the juvenile status of most involved, an immense amount of information has been withheld. Before getting upset with the BOE and Superintendent, remember they had access to information we do not. We have to believe in our elected officials doing the right thing- difficult at times though that may be. We have a system in place in this country so that if we are unhappy with our officials, we can vote them out. We also have due process for a reason. Let's let the proper channels deal with this. Nothing will be decided on-line, and when all is said and done we are neighbors in what is usually a great town.

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Al Scala

8:46 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

LZG....Our trustees knew of this incident for about 2 weeks now. They've handled this matter in a disgraceful and embarrasing fashion. They've been unprepared. They apparently don't have a clue on the HIB law. Our Board attorney is a joke! They've flip flopped on this matter twice. They are an embarrasment to our town and our educational system.

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John Wayne

8:58 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

LZG - let's all agree beat Paramus

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winnie

4:12 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

LZG - well said. I too believe it would help a lot if people would step back and allow those in charge ( BOE, Law enforcement, etc) to do their jobs. People - stay out of it and tend to your own children, families, business, etc. While reading these posts, it really "is" easy to get all caught up in this. Then you realize NO ONE posting here, including me, knows everything (or anything.) As a community, we need to trust in the system. Let it work through the process. If you have nothing productive to say, then say nothing at all.

Al Scala

8:38 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

What happens now if these kids are found guilty? What happens if they plead to a lesser charge and get probation and community service? Is Olsen, Dowling, Giampapa going to come back to a board meeting and say their sorry? Are all 60-70 of the football players going to come back to a board meeting with their football jerseys on and say their sorry? Will all the football parents come back with their football parents sweatshirts and admit they were wrong? I doubt it. Will we then forfeit our victories over Vernon, Paramus and whoever we play in the finals? I doubt it.

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HELP THE KIDS

8:46 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

WHERES THE STATE POLICE HAS ANYBODY NOTIFIED THEM

SAME AS PENN STATE COVERUP.

THESE SICK ADULTS WHO ARE LETTING THEM PLAY SHOULD BE PUT IN JAIL

BUT I GEUSS THEIR UNION IS STRONG
WHERES THE GOVERNER ON THIS IF IT WAS HIS KIDS I GUESS
HE WOULD BE SPEAKING OUT. GOING BY LAWA

I GUESS IF JOHN CORZINE CAN STEAL MONEY FROM MF GLOBAL
AND BE FREE ANYTHING GOES IN NJ WILD WILD WEST

BRING SOME PROTESTERS FROM WALL STREET TO THE GAME TONIGHT

CORZINE FREE LVEREDEGED YOUR MONEY 400 TO 1 HELLO

STATE OF GNGSTERS (COACHES- POLICE BOARD OF EDUCTION
ALL CORRUPT

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irapasses

8:53 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

so if my son gets suspended for cutting class i get a private meeting with the BOE to plead my case. Due process for every infraction? or just the ones that relate to the football team in maroon...oops i mean black. Wooohooo. The BOE will be a very busy bunch.

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Willy

9:12 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

hire a lawyer and get your polygraph test ready.... very true!

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rocketjsquirrel

9:14 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

like many others, you can't seem to segregate an incident that happened at school (cutting class) and something that happened outside, unrelated to ANY school activity, team, coach.

Good thing these issues aren't decided on line...some of the downstream comments are scary. None of the haters had the guts to come to the meeting and face those they accuse. Where were you all???

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Dory Degen

9:20 pm on Saturday, November 19, 2011

right! did they just set a precident? pummel someone unconcious and you can still play in your game becasue of "due process." what about getting caught cheating, does cheating count? cheating is only a misdemeanor as opposed to say, oh, aggravated assault. and drugs....if you get caught selling drugs do you still get to play until court? or only if the game is football? so many questions!

John Wayne

8:54 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Stew Resmer: Never enough said. The Board holds a meeting - releasing a decision at 1am
VOTE OUT THE BOARD
DISMISS SUP'T
FIRE COACH
DISCONTINUE WAYNE HILLS FOOTBALL
JAIL ANDREW MONAGHAN

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John Wayne

11:18 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

RCRC1- I was wondering where you were. Getting your GED? Please watch the foul language or Tom will ban your one-sided "posts". Welcome back.

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Betty Boop

6:31 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

John Wayne or is it John Lynch???? You wish your son could play for Olsen!!! He would have all the opportunities to shine and be noticed by one of the top 10 HS football teams in New Jersey. Too bad, you are on the loosing side!!!

John Wayne

8:57 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Justice delayed is Justice denied.
Good call BOE. we wouldn't want this teaching moment to pass with Hills not at full strength against Paramus.
The lesson - send in the black shirts. Keep out the adults. Block the auditorium.

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Dory Degen

9:24 pm on Saturday, November 19, 2011

@Betty Boop.......for the love of God...it's "losing." L-O-S-I-N-G, losing. Loosing: no such word.

John Wayne

9:09 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

To all Non-Wayne Hills residents:
Reason, Morals, Ethics, good sportmanship, and discipline no longer exist in Wayne.

While Hills can push around its Board of Ed., the rest of NJ isn't controlled by Chris or Sue or Greg Olsen.

Paramus - object to playing against Hills with accused felons on the team.

NJ High Schools - De-schedule your games against Hills next season.

Gov. Christy - insist that the NJ anti-bullyiong law be applied by Wayne Hills now

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Betty Boop

6:20 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

JW: I guess you missed the part about the hearing on November 29th at the Board Office where the Board of Ed will hear all the facts and make a determination about the punishment of whoever is guilty. It's the 5th paragraph in the above article. Obviously you didnt have the gutts to get up at the meeting and speak your mind. You are a coward!!!!! It's a shame that people like you have to live in our community. Leave Coach Olsen alone, he did nothing to you and he had no control in this situation. Again, if you were at the meeting then you heard him tell everyone that Mr. Roth told him the boys have to play. Where were all you people last night standing up for the boys who were injured? I only saw one man stand up and speak in Valley's behalf. You people need to get a reality check!! Jealousy is poison!!!

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John Wayne

9:03 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Betty Boop (if that is your real name) - Of course I was afraid to speak. Coward? I didn't want the gang of nine following me in an SUV. I'm only one guy and saw all those black shirts hogging the seats in order to exclude Valley from participating. The adults had to stand.You know that Coach Olsen, asked these players to intimidate Valley, the BOE, and Roth, and they always listen to coach.
Boop, the fix is in, on Nov. 29, the Hills' BOE will rule against Wayne.
I propose that we change Hills HS name to Christopher Olsen Prep.

Willy

9:11 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

GREAT!!! As with OJ SIMPSON... if you have the money... they will set you free... great parenting skills moms and dads!!! This just disgusts me as a parent and resident... the fact that laweyers are involved at this point just shows the arrogance and the LACK of human life from the parents and players... the good news is there hopefully will be a court hearing on this .... something had to be shown to be charged with Aggrevated Assault... it wasnt even considered Simple Assault.

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Beavis

1:00 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Are you really going to compare this to someone who committed a cold blooded double-murder ???

more beatings

9:17 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

wheres homeland security
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paramus should not play the game or protest it to send out the right message

insupport of injurded kids- families

repeat do not play the game paramus

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John Wayne

11:13 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Hey More - Paramus should play the game under protest and complain to the proper NJ student sports sanctioning boards for a default by Wayne Hills.

A Mother

9:19 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Blame has been placed on the coach, parents, BOE, police and the boys. Only the boys that were there that night know what happened. The boys who actually participated in the assault know who they are. They should not need the BOE giving them permission to play in the game. They have made their school, their coach and the community look bad. This game will be forgotten in a few years but not what happened before it. The boys should take responsibility for what they did and do the right thing by benching themselves, I am sure that in the future this is what will make them feel better about themselves, not winning a game.

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John Wayne

11:09 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

The coach knows what happened, He said two weren't even present. The team knows what happened, these 9 put the the team's future at risk.
Those who know,Coach, Coach's wife' Coach's NFL star son, and the team failed to act so are at fault.

Rich

9:26 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Although my wife grew up in Wayne, I am a transplant from Essex County. I was told when I moved here that it was a "Great Place" for kids. I just didn't realize it applied to Adults who never grew up as well. Every apologist at the meeting last night and posting here, sound like children.

It doesn't suprise me that, last evening, the "Poor Parents" had all their Duke references at the ready, but I didn't hear any mention of the Penn State tragedy. One that took place due to an environment and culture of privilege and CYA. This is what the real story is. How about no mention of liquor at the party in question, or drugs??? Come on Hills parent, don't pick out the parts of the story that fit nicely into your narrative, tell all of it. I am pretty sure there are no 21 year old kids on the team, let's all hear about how minors had liquor at the party and got their "Beer Muscles " on.

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Dory Degen

9:31 pm on Saturday, November 19, 2011

@ Rich.....Since you are from Essex County maybe you remember the high school football players from the 80's in Glen Ridge who raped a retarded girl with a baseball bat. Same thing, the town rallied around "their guys" and the coach allowed the football players to continue along with the season as if nothing had happened. The parents of the girl were made to feel like they were inconveniencing everyone and ruining all the fun with their little complaint. The boys were later convicted and did some pretty hard prison time instead of college. Hold tight everyone, these boys may very well get their "due process".

Wayne resident

9:27 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

When all is said and done, regardless of whether Wayne Hills Football Team is state champion or not this year, the Wayne Hills football program will be remembered as the year Wayne Hills football team was involved in a Bullying, physical violence incident where 9 of its members were charged, and the BOE, Coach Olsen and the parents of the students charged chose to sit with their heads in the sand (with the not my child/not our student mentality). Nice message to send out to the community and any student who has bullied and has been bullied. BOE should either have an Anti-Bullying Law they will fully implement or don't have it at all. To implement it half heartidly when it serves specific purpose is just offensive to everyone in the community. I believe there is an old saying "say what you mean and do what you say" and I add or just don't bother.

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Wayne rez

9:56 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

I am not even a parent and this is absurd to let those players play, it is all about winning crazy to think this is how kids are being brought up and taught a lesson. In my opinion they should not be allowed to play. The parents that are involved you should ask yourself....what if this were your child?

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Ron

9:59 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

No remorse, bad character, lying, bullying, with parents and a coach who condone it. Boys, if you think your life can continue like this without ramifications in the future, newsflash, you better change your ways. Oh and thank you for giving the Hills football team a bad reputation that the entire tri-state will remember in the future. Parents, for those of you who stood up yesterday and protected your "innocent" boys, you are an embarrassment to parenthood.

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Scondo

10:18 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

I hope Paramus beats Wayne Hills, but then again I was a Paramus Spartan , oh, so many years ago. Wow, was it really that long ago. I have to say that I have taken pride in my new home town Wayne over the years because we have good schools.we have good people, nice communities. Let us not lose sight of that. Kids make mistakes, lets let the Courts sort that out, let's not let this split our town. Let's do make it a point as parents to sit our children down and talk about bullying, drinking, respect , decency, drugs and steroids and let's act like parents and not allow underage drinking in our homes. Let's do our part.

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abbie

10:22 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

I think the problem here is that everyone wants to punish people before they are found guilty.Not sure why? No one is saying these boys should get away with anything, but the coach, the board and the parents spewing hatred on this blog don't have the right to find these boys guilty. If they are found guilty they will be punished by the courts. As they should. When did it become the schools' job to be judge and jury, aren't they too busy teaching about sex education already. What next, schools need to become parents? Schools are to teach and to punish infractions inside the schools, when it's a legal matter, so not to taint the waters, everyone other than legal personnel involved, should stay out of it. As far as Olsen, he didn't make this a football issue. The Valley studens aren't football players so it's not a rivalry. It's not a cross town rivalry either, haven't you ever heard of kids within the same school fighting? Don't make it more than it is, a fight that way to far based on things that don't have anything to do with school or where people live. Why are people always looking to dramatize situations that are dramatic already. The fight was bad, someone did it, it's just not clear what happened so stop passing judgement until the facts are out. Haven't you ever heard of charges being dropped for lack of evidence?

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John Wayne

11:03 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Abbie - I'm sure it wasn't on purpose, but you are making Wayne Valley's (and all reasonable peoples') point.
Whether the Hills 9 are found guilty, or acquitted for lack of evidence, they did something wrong. They violated the athletic code of conduct. They broke team rules, and NJ rules.
Kids fight sometimes. When I competed in college and high school football, the principal, coach, and even team student captains would investigate and mete out appropriate discipline. Not jail, A benching, an apology, a handshake.

You fail to see that our complaint is that the Sup't. The BOE, the Principal, Hills administration, the Coach, the Coach's son, and even the team's captains, just by virtue of their "team" relationship, know what happened. Even outside the criminal justice system these 7 or 8 or 9 did something wrong, but are protected by those who should "man up" and face the music.
I know you agree but can't admit it because Sue Olsen wo'nt invite you to happy hour.

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Michelle

11:18 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Abbie, there are clear cut Anit-Bulling laws so that when children fight within the same school or with another school in town it should be dealt with by the school whether it is on or off campus, during on not during a school function. That is why people are upset. The Anit-Bulling laws have been disregarded.

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abbie

12:12 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

JohnWayne, your last comment about happy hour shows your lack of intelligence and your propensity to insult rather than deal with the topic at hand. The fact is that no one knows what happened it is still being worked out and my point is, once it's worked out, punish away, but until then no punishments.
Michelle, anti-bullying laws also must follow the premise that before you punish someone you need to make sure that he or she is actually guilty. Here, what was happening is that the boys were being punished first, and worrying about what actually happened later. When I say punish the guilty, I mean punish the guilty and not just the accused. I reiterate, many charges are dropped by police after they are filed due to lack of evidence, or lack of guilt.

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Dory Degen

11:28 pm on Sunday, November 20, 2011

@ abbie....you just don't get it.

Sean Gilday

10:34 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

This whole thing is the true essence of bullyism Its amazing they got in there with their lawyers and backed down the whole board bullying students, bullying coach, bullying lawyers = flip flop.

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steve revette

10:39 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

My god what is wrong with this town? You need to show these kids some discipline. Letting them get away with it is ridiculous. Not one of those kids should be playing a DOWN. And I'm sorry scondo but no mistake was made. They did not accidentally get in the car and go and beat the kids up. Punish them send a clear message that this will not be TOLERATED. Maybe them not playing in a BIG football game is exactly what they need. If there is no punishment what happens if they do something even worse next time?

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Fox322

10:42 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Everyone has their own morals and values to suit themselves. http://www.explorefaith.org/​lifelines_morals.html "For the Children" (Adults, as well.)

Best to go Back to the Basics.

Oh, by the way, the football team has more than nine players to represent and play the playoffs.

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Andy539

10:45 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

If you get stopped for drunk driving today, AND you are drunk, you receive a ticket and a court date. You CAN drive UNTIL your guilt or innocence is determed. Even if you have no defense, you can drive. Driving is a privilege, not a right. Why? Because that is the way this country has always handled due process. Ultimately, the decision last night, which was the right one, was based on due process.

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George

11:08 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

okay Andy539...then Jerry Sandusky might as well resume his coaching and camp activities as well

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iPad

11:10 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

The decision last night was NOT the right one. Pavlak isn't a judge making a court decision, he is a horrible BOE President. How about making a decision on these policies?
1. http://www.wayneschools.com/district/board_of_education/policies_and_regulations/documents/DistrictPolicyHarassmentIntimidationBullying5512.pdf
2. http://www.wayneschools.com/district/board_of_education/policies_and_regulations/documents/DistrictPolicyPupilDiscipline5600.pdf

When is this town going to do the right thing for once?

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steve revette

11:24 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Actually people are always held out of things when there's an investigation. There is enough evidence to suggest that at east some of these kids are involved. People have things taken away all the time and then returned to them when their name is cleared.

John M

11:08 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Finally and lets keep the hatred mute. The facts are being known ! Sometimes the media makes the news and does not report it. I think there will be more coming out soon! Now Go Hills and beat Paramus.

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Ron

11:16 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

The bottom line is - we would not be having any of these issues and discussions and BOE meetings if these boys had enough balls and integrity to step up and admit they committed the assaults ( whether it was one of them, several or all ). They are liars, and encouraged to do so by those around them including their parents.

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SON OF SAM

11:18 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

LETS HAVE THE SUPER COMMITTEE W OBAMA REVIEW THE CASE

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SON OF SAM

11:20 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

WHERES CHRISTIE HIDING WITH ALL THE OTHER GANGSTER POLITIONS

NO MORE NONEY FOR SCHOOLS ITS A STRONG UNION- ONLY BACKDOORING PENSIONS. SEE NO IMPROVEMENT IN SYSTEM IN30 YEARS

YOUR ALL GANGSTERS LIKE CORZINE-MF GLOBAL

MOORE COMMITIEES = MORE JOBS

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SON OF SAM

11:29 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

ALL THE ADULTS GTTING PAID BIG DOLLERS AT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WITH ALL
EDUCATION DEGREES YET NO COMMEN SENSE

PARAMUS MUST NOT PLAY THE GAME OUT OF RESPECT FOR INJURED KIDS
MORALLY THE RIGHT THING TO DUE

LETS SUSPEND THE DOPY SCHOOL TEACHERS AND HAVE THE CUSTODIENS TEACH

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John Wayne

2:40 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

SON - Paramus shouldn't pay the penalty that Hills won't pay. They should play under protest that their children are being exposed to accused felons. These protests should be made to the NJ Athletic sanctioning bodies, since Wayne officials are corrupt and soon to be out of office.

SON OF SAM

11:30 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

GOVEMENT AT ITS BEST
GANSTERS RULE
IT SHOWS

GET CORZINE UP HERE HE CAN HIDE THE MONEY

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abbie

12:23 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

SonofSam, please turn your spell check to the "ON" position.

irapasses

11:37 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

maybe everyone should call the Wayne School District HIB Compliance officer Naomi Conklin for an explanation. Her number is 973-317-2165 and her email is nconklin@wayneschools.com. Ask her if the HIB policy covers off school premise activities. Of course she is out sick today. Wouldnt you be if you were undermined by your own school board and your job became a mockery?

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John Wayne

2:44 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Ira - Thanks for the number and e-mail. Please also post info for complaints to Passaic County Govt, and Statewide Sport Sanctioning Bodies since corrupt local Govt is already in bed with Olsen.

John Wayne

11:38 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Tom, please remove the dude and RCRC1 for bad language and Hills sportsmanship.

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the dude

11:55 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Hey what about ira?...he is now posting as "SON OF SAM"

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John Wayne

2:45 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

See Tom: the dude has to go

SON OF SAM

11:46 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

LETS SALUTE THE FLAG WITH THE GANGSTERS TEACHERS BOARD OF ED
JOE PATERNO MY MOM DAD SUPER COMMITEE , BEN BERACKI TIMMY GIEDNER
CORZINE AND BERNIE MADOFF

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Beavis

1:13 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

If you are going to reference people who have no relevance to this whatsoever, at least know how to spell their names correctly...

irapasses

11:47 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

John Wayne - dont blame the moderator for those 2 deadbeats. RCRC is pretending to be a student (who posts all day to this site) when in reality she is another of those god-awful parents.

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John Wayne

2:47 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Ira - Thanks for the heads up on RCRC1.

jon son

11:48 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

I can't believe you people. This is purely about football. I would never allow my child to play for such a bullying type of coach ever. This guy is completely over the top, and I would never allow my student to be bullyed by this man. He is the KING BULLY. And most of his players take his lead. I have been around this program way too long and know how this guy teaches his players. I feel so sorry for his kids, I couldn't imagine being raised by him. His wife must fear him. You have brought this town down another 10 steps. And don't worry coach, Outback will survive without you and your possy. I know of and instance recently that happened in another state. A boy was suspended from his acedemic classes because he said GOD BLESS YOU to another classmate. What ashame what we have come to in this country. Look, I know these kids worked their tails off to get to this game, but I surely know that these same kids would not be playing tonight If I were the coach or their parent.
Shame on all of you parents, coachs, BOE and hills followers.

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Beavis

1:14 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Too bad you couldn't or wouldn't show up to provide this information last night.

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John Wayne

2:53 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Beavis, with all those black shirted Hoods (see photo) taking the seats from adults and intimidating anyone from speaking against Olsen (the Coach) and star Andrew Monaghan (the captain involved in beating the Valley students), it was dangerous to provide all this information last night. Hills already has gang jumped Valley people.

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iPad

2:54 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Well said. This is clearly about football, not about bullying. Olsen and his posse last night were a disgrace to this town!

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Beavis

3:18 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

@John....I dont have to look at the pics..I was there. I think its sad if you really believe that you really believe you couldnt speak.

Alan Wright

12:01 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

"The Board of Education and Interim superintendent held a 4-hour, closed-door hearing with players and their legal representatives to discuss the charges and the evidence in the case..."

Wow.

The BOE conducted a closed-door, quasi-legal hearing where only the alleged perpetrators and their attorneys/ parents were present? Is there a record of this discussion?

According to this story, neither police officers nor the victims presented any testimony, documentary evidence, or physical evidence.

So, where did the BOE get this so-called "evidence" from? The police report and the mouths of the alleged attackers? Or their attorneys? Whatever was discussed might not be "evidence" in court because it might not be admissible. It's also not a balanced presentation of evidence in a tit-for-tat way one expects in a hearing or court of law.

In such a closed-door meeting, it's simply one-sided of the story, presented by biased parties to the Board of Education... an elected body highly subject to public pressure. Unlike, for instance, a jury or a high-quality judge.

So, it's little wonder why the BOE came to this conclusion in light of the procedures they used to discuss the case. I wonder if their hearing was an ultra vires decision ("beyond their authority"), such that it can be overturned by a court.

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John Wayne

2:56 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Alan - you are right about the hearing, but the BOE isnt innocent here. They will soon be out of office.

wayne taxpayer

12:36 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

shame on the BOE, the parents and especially coach Olsen. If you are going to stand in public and accept those accolades of how great you are, then prove it by doing the right thing. make your students admit who did what. Make them take full responsibility and teach them a life lesson. Clear the names of the innocent and let the ones who had the fight and did the bullying take the consequences. Otherwise get off yor high horse and stop making the parents come to these meetings and speaking on your behalf. You and i know the truth about you - you are a bully and teach through intimidation.

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12:52 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

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irapasses

12:55 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Olsen will do the right thing. After the football season is over he will bring the boys to justice and if you play a winter or spring sport you will be SOL

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Eagle Maker

1:01 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Coach states he doesn't need the 9 boys to defeat Vernon. Likely doesn't need them tonight either. I would like to see him test that theory. Coach rules that program with an iron fist (not necessarily a bad thing). My guess he knows more about the incident than he lets on. He still has time to discipline the boys that should be disciplined before tonight's game.
To the boys who threw the punches, man-up, take responsibility, show some remorse, and be a good team mate. Don't drag the "innocent" down with you.

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dbsc

1:06 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

It would be refreshing to see people take responsibility for their actions.

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John Wayne

3:07 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Eagle = Of course the coach knows more. How else could he say that two accused werent there. His gang lie to the BOE, but not to coach.
Likewise, the whole Hills team knows what happened. They are a family.

My disappointment is that Hills would not discipline there own.

dbsc

1:02 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

This is disturbing and makes me want to go to the game just to root against them. I wish people would stop talking about due process and legal terms this is about being allowed to play in a football game and participate in SCHOOL SPONSORED activities. It is convenient that they are going to meet again after the playoffs so that the boys can play regardless of whether they participated or not. This should not be a BOE issue it should have been resolved by the parents and then by the coach. What kind of parent allows their child to play in a football game if they know that were involved or even there when this happened??? I feel for the parents of these boys and hope that get a nice big chunk of change from the "parents" more interested in football stats than the character of their sons , the school and the board. I am so sick of all these news stories where NO ONE stands up and does the RIGHT THING. Stop talking about legal BS and use some morals...

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Mike Devant

1:02 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Hi All, Enjoy the fog............Northern NJ is full of fools who accept being overtaxed and overregulated along with being overun by govt administrators who can not protect its children. I am afraid except for a few of you in this blog nothing can be done. By Gov Christies words, NJ is the most corrupt state in the country whereby the layers of beauracracy have infiltrated all aspects of your communities to the point that nobody can bust it up and get reason to come back to your towns. This incident proves it once and for all. Nothing will be done.......just keep giving your hard earned money so you can keep enabling those that can not nor will not protect ALL children of Wayne, regardless of whether it is a HILLS or VALLEY child. Only small minded people with hidden agendas put a suffix after the word Wayne, It serves them well to divide and conquer. Makes them feel important and wanted. As for the attackers take note....one day your roid rage and false bravado will meet the wrong person. I pray you all grow up and become productive members of society where you learn to respect all people including those that cross you.

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jgo

1:31 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Gotta love how you all seem to know exactly what happened that night. For all any of you know, they could have wrongly identified 7 out of the 9 people. Let the courts do what they do, and let the coach do what he does. It doesn't take a highly qualified taxidermist from Ojai Valley taxidermy such as myself to understand this

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dbsc

1:41 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Let the coach do what he does,,,discipline his team. If he is such a strong coach that holds his players to higher standards and is respected he should be able to quickly find out how many of the 9 are innocent. But the truth isnt really whats important hear is it? As long as they can play and win a state championship BEFORE they are found guilty, how convenient.

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John Wayne

3:19 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

jgo - your missing it by a mile - The parents, teamates, coaches, can enforce good behavior and sportsmanship rules without a trial. These Hills parents, teamates, coaches are not.
At least admit it. These parents coaches and teamates are culpable for nonfeasance.
ADMIT IT

wayne taxpayer

1:37 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

So much for getting new blood on the BOE. A unaminous decision last night in after hours secured meeting. The new members of the BOE disgust me more than the rest- I expected more from them - not even a full year and they are "one of the good ole boys" doing as they are told. They sat back and did nothing when Coach Olsen dismantled and slandered the Patriots Club - now they do it again. Great Job!! you should be proud of yourselves. Perhaps its time for the State to step in and run the school district. It is quite clear the BOE can't do it. If they cant make these easy decisions how can we trust them to oversee the school budget. How many of you are aware that this same BOE approved Coach Olsen's fund raising of $100,000 to be spent on remodeling the "football" locker room including 3 flat screen tv's . Great use of public funds.

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Beavis

2:18 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Did you have the same feeling of the Patriot Club when they up and quit last year ?

So are you saying it is wrong for the organization to use the funds that they obtained through fundraisers of their own as they wish ? This was not tax dollars being used.

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John Wayne

3:35 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Concerned - we all would like to recall the BOE.
I think Coach Olsen used that fundraising for his legal defenses.
Most ethical schools use funds raised from sports for the general fund to benefit all students. But there is no one ethical at Wayne Hells(sic).
Since Wayne Officials (and Jessica Brody) are bereft of ethics and common sense, the State Sport Sanctioning Boards, the County and State, and even the other high schools, can take meaningful steps to isolate Hills and protect NJ from them.

JERRIES KIDS

1:55 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

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JERRIES KIDS

1:56 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

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John Wayne

3:40 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Beavis - you awoke a sleeping tiger - go Jerries

Ben&

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Beavis

4:06 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

John - You are right..I guess we need someone to provide some lighter comedy around here.

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1:56 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

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JERRIES KIDS

1:57 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

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JERRIES KIDS

1:59 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

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JERRIES KIDS

1:59 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Chad Meredith. Chad Meredith was pledging the Kappa Sigma fraternity at the University of Miami in November of 2001 when he and two of the officers of the fraternity began drinking heavily after a concert they attended. After several hours of drinking and with a blood alcohol level of .13, the officers encouraged Meredith to swim across Lake Osceola, where he drowned 34 feet from shore, unable to swim due to alcohol, fatigue, and the cold. Meredith’s death lead to the passage of the Chad Meredith Act, which expanded the definition of hazing and imposed harsh penalties on hazing at both the high school and college level.

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JERRIES KIDS

2:00 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Walter Dean Jennings III. At the State University of New York in March of 2003, Walter Dean Jennings III was pledging Psi Epsilon Chi. Jennings was involved in a hazing ritual that lasted ten days and included drinking numerous pitchers of water–sometimes through a funnel and often to the point of vomiting. Eventually, Jennings was forced to drink so much water that his brain swelled, and he died from water intoxication. 21 students were punished by the university over Jennings’ death and 13 were charged with, and plead guilty to, crimes that included criminally negligent homicide.

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JERRIES KIDS

2:00 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Tyler Cross. Tyler Cross, pledging Sigma Alpha Epsilon at the University of Texas in 2006, fell from a fifth-story apartment. The night Cross died he had been given large amounts of alcohol and was physically hazed. Reportedly, the pledges were beaten with bamboo. Other allegations include sleep deprivation and shocking with cattle prods. Cross’ parents sued the fraternity and won a $16.2 million settlement they filed in the hopes that the legal case would serve to prevent another hazing-related death.

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D.A.

2:19 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

First time in 63 years, I am embarrassed to be from Wayne. BOE has show poor judgement all week. Where are their values, morals, poor judgement. What did these students learn from this situation.... that its okay,,, they were "charged with aggravated assault".... a boy was unconscious in the street ....but they are allowed to participate in extra-curricular activities...What is education about in this town, whether one or all are guilty, it is a TEAM sport and someone on this TEAM did this to those two boys, so the TEAM forfeits...Teaching them a lesson is what this should be about... But we know in Wayne it's only about WINNING... Only thing Important in Wayne sports is Winning... NOT TEAMWORK....Just another sad story in Wayne School....You wonder why so may people are sending their Kids to private schools....Obviously values, morals and respect is not taught in OUR public schools...so disappointed.

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Mike Devant

2:44 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Do not know Coach Olsen nor do I care to. But I will honestly admit that his WON - LOST record and his ability to coach should never come into question. That is indisputeable, very impressive and a matter of record. The handling of this case is the issue, Coach Olsen has people he should be answering to and those are the people that should be feeling the wrath not the coach. Coach Olsen positive input to the community should trump his teams and his own interests at this point. Funny to think that in a perverse way, his own team that he supposedly loves so much I think, let him down in a big big way, so much so, his reputation is now on the line with a guilty or non guilty verdict. Only then will a final chapter be written. Stay tuned.

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corzine mf global

2:48 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

my kid just came home he really shock ed how geverment does not work
protect the people

any way were comming from paramus to watch game

is my son / freinds going to be safe from wayne parents enough police /policing

wayne parents hope they dont ruin the game if they do you deserve it parents should walk on field repeat walk on field so they cannot play game in
honer of injered kids

hope my son is safe at game with all the gangsters( players /coaches going ahead with game.

hope wayne homeowner / taxpayers show make wayne forfit

seems the thing to do parents since you cannot trust board of education/police coaches cover ups

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Beavis

3:01 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

You should be ashamed of yourself,..Calling the entire team and coaches "gangsters"

Also, please before creating anymore board aliases, PLEASE learn proper English and how to spell correctly.

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Wayne's World

3:41 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Tell you what, Mr. Corzine...Wayne taxpayers will forfit over some money to the Paramus Board of Ed for continuing ed classes in grammer and speling.

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John Wayne

9:12 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Thank you Corzine from Paramus.
Please ask your kids to be careful in Wayne Hills. It is dangerous.

Mike Devant

3:08 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

to JOHN WAYNE - where is BIG JAKE when you need him?

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John Wayne

9:15 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Big Jake was beat down by Andrew Monoghan and the Hills nine.

Resident Kelly

3:22 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Football is more important than children is really what this comes down too.

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Resident Kelly

3:28 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Also, I was surprised there were not many Valley supporters at the meeting. That's sad.

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Wayne's World

3:44 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Didn't seem like too many supporters of sanity, either. I would have gone to this but unfortunately had more important things to do like teach my 2 year old right from wrong...I still cannot get over the parents of the Gang of 9. There seem to be some people in the know on this board - were there any of the implicated kids whose parents kept them home last week?

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John Wayne

9:17 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Rapper Kelly - the fix was in - I couldn't get a seat because the children from Hills football blocked me. They said coach gave the order.

Mike Devant

3:39 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Does anybody remember McDonald Beach on Rte 23 South between the 2 circles? Great memories. Does anybody remember Willowbrook Mall when it first opened? Use to be a store called Rocks n Things where you go to buy Geos and all kinds of exotic rocks. Miss those days in Wayne.

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Squeakyfoot

5:30 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Mike that's too funny. The Rock Shop in Mt. View. When you walked in the store the guy came out of the back, his lungs filled with smoke, and the smell of .... filled the room. His array of rocks, pipes, bongs and roach clips scattered the shelves. Right under everyones nose was this truely amazing head shop...it's just to bad that I don't remember anything from "those days"...I have kids now. Im stuck in the present. Watching sitcoms, reading about wild parties and head bashing football players, and gathering what-ever information I can of Foxtv. Growing old su cks.

Scondo

3:42 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Well the closed session meeting , just well it just , you know, Oh, man, how do I say this...this is embarassing.
Well there is no other way---so I will just say it.......Rob Burke was right.

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Al Scala

4:27 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Scondo...you are too much! LOL

Wayne Resident

3:42 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Valley parents were afraid to come to the meeting.....

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Willy

9:17 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Valley parents are not the ones facing a judge and where not thrown off a team... Think about it... The ones that did not get arrested did have the witch hunt show up to the meeting and take up all the seats... Innocence does not need to be defended by thugs!!! That's what last night was.... Thugs showing up... SO SAD

qwerty

3:44 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

TAKE RESPONSIBILITIES FOR YOUR CHILDREN'S ACTIONS. THEY ARE MINORS. IF YOU WAVE THIS AWAY, THEY MIGHT REALLY DO SERIOUS/BIGGER ACTIONS WHEN THEY TURN 20.

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Mike Devant

3:49 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

What is an ENTIRE FOOTBALL TEAM of kids doing at a board meeting other than taking up chairs in the front? Can somebody explain this logic????

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Beavis

4:03 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Showing support for their Coach and teammates !!! Do you really that to be explained to you...

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John Wayne

9:26 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Mike - Jimmy Hoffa admitted using a similar tactic in Union negotiations.
While management had the brains. Union guys would fill the room with Teamsters and intimidate everyone.
Respect Coach Olsen - He is a master of intimidation.

Mike Devant

3:50 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Is the Super temporary since they can not find anybody decent to want to take the position? Is the culture that bad that outsiders see this?

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John Wayne

9:29 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Mike, the culture in Wayne is very bad. Hills has stacked the BOE, the school administration, and selects the Superintendant. It is undisputed that Coach Chris hand picks the candidates for these spots.

Mike Devant

3:51 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Why hasn't the principal weighed in on the issue or is he being silenced?

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John Wayne

9:30 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Hills principal is silent because he knows Olsen has it under control. Hills principal is in complete agreement with Olsen or he will be fired.

Mike Devant

3:52 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Has Bill O'Reilly gotten involved yet, Geraldo Rivera? FOX ought to know the issues.

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John Wayne

9:37 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Mike - nothing will be done within Wayne. Wayne belongs to the Hills. The rest of us in Wayne can petition Passaic County, can petition the NJ Sanctioning Boards, and can seek State intervention into our fiefdom.
I think we can organize the other High Schools in the State to boycott Hills by de-scheduling games next season.

Resident Kelly

4:01 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Playing Football is a privilege. It is not a right.

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John Wayne

9:40 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

R. Kelly - Hills residents are a stubborn bunch clinging to their guns and their religion - which is football.

irapasses

4:32 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

how do you spell witness tampering? O L S
never mind. there is no sanity left in this town. The inmates run the asylum. black is white. wrong is right. up is down. tiring trying to make sense of it. might as well move to Mississipi and be with rednecks who admit and embrace that they are rednecks. This town is full of pretenders.

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Rich

4:36 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

While there are only losers is all of this , ultimately the Coach, Players and Parents will be the biggest losers. This charade has already hit the wires as CBS NY has picked it up, Due to all of the internet activity if you Google Wayne Hills Football, this joke of a situation comes up. Instaed of piping down and taking their medicine, (and let the actual LEGAL stuff playout) they essentailly put a target on their back. Nice job.

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John Wayne

9:43 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Rich - Hills players take medicine. It chemically builds muscle mass

K

4:42 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

No one knows what was decided in that meeting. Maybe the kids responsible will sit the games out - we can't be sure because we don't know who they are, nor should we because they are minors. The right thing would be for the parents to do their job and make them miss the games- we don't know if they are doing that either ( I wouldn't bet on it). What I do know is that this group of kids missing these games will NOT impact the rest of their lives. Missed scholarship opportunities? Maybe, statistically, maybe one will miss out on some tuition. But life changing? No. I also believe that people don't change much and then there's karma. These kids will do something as adults where they will be punished as adults.

Hopefully, the two kids will be okay, to them, on the other hand, MAY be a life changing event.

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My2Cents

6:58 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

It all comes down to legallity... IT's a shame sometimes the law gets in the way of doing the right thing.

K

4:47 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Also, sitting the kids out would open doors for another nine, the new players would then be able to have success, so what makes one set of 9 better than another on a team of, I think, 70?

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John Wayne

9:45 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

The new nine would have success and follow good sportsmanship.

Scondo

4:59 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

@Wayne Resident, Rob would also appreciate the humor---but he would accuse me of baiting him. Sadly, this is another thing that the town kind of booted. I do not hold with those who castigate Olsen. He is hired to be a football coach and he has been very successful in developing the talent. His wife is hands off. Leave that lady alone. This one is between the involved kids and their parents. It is also an opportunity to speak to our children and really lay it out. No drinking, no drugs, no steroids, no unprotected sex, no violence , no bullying. The whole magilla, make your kid squirm when you lay it out for them, then take your own advice. Show your kids by your example, as do most parents in town.

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Pad

5:21 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Interim Roth? We pay this man a fortune and he changes his mind like the wind blows. First he lets them play, then they are benched, then the Wayne Hills Posse shows up and he changes his mind again. All I heard at that meeting was about Due Process, blah, blah, blah. I guess everyone in jail awaiting trial should be let out until they are found guilty so the get their Due Process. Anybody hear the words PROBABLE CAUSE. Obviously there was enough information to arrest these students, maybe a few were not guilty at all. But rest assured those two WV boys didn't assault themselves. There will be plenty of bad publicity and lawsuits to go around on this for sure. The new Superintendant all I have to say is "Welcome to Wayne" Best advice "Leave while you can". They will destroy you and your reputation here. The showing at the BOE was a disgrace. Not one word of regret or any mention of the two boys who were assaulted. My advice to their parents is "Get the best lawyers you can". I have no connection to either school or the teams. This is my opinion as a taxpayer and a person feels these individuals should be responsible for their actions. If they didn't assault anyone or they weren't there let them play. By the time this is worked out the season will be over. He as a coach should have benched them. His history isn't one that is all roses. I wonder what would be if these boys weren't on his team and how much he would have supported them if they were just plain everyday students.

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Pad

5:38 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Hopefully the Police Department will not be influenced by the politics and the BOE in this town and do their jobs as they are sworn to do. Maybe this investigation should be handed over to the Prosecutors Office so as to avoid any Conflict of Interest. As we all know the President of the BOE is a Police Officer in town and his father a former Police Chief. Makes you wonder what is going on on the PD level. The Wayne Chief seems to be a straight shooter and I do believe he will not be swayed here. But politics in this town has destroyed many esp. at the BOE level.

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Thomas Donovan

5:48 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Impeach the Wayne Board of Education!

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My2Cents

6:55 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

I'm embarrassed that I live in a town that puts more focus on a Football program then anything else.

Between the 9 WH players and the Penn State fiasco, I don't even want to watch football anymore.

Here's hoping it's the end of the season tonight.

... and to the guiltly WH players getting to play (whether it's 3, 5 or 9 who are guilty).... May the flea's of a thousand camels infest your armpits. (I love that saying and have always wanted to use it)

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pillbury dough governer

7:13 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Senator Christopher Dodd (D-CT)

2.Senator John Ensign (R-NV):
Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA

Secretary of Treasury Timothy Geithner:
Attorney General Eric Holder

6.Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL)/ Senator Roland Burris (D-IL)
President Barack Obama Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)
Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) and the rest of the PMA Seven
Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY)

40TH LEGISLATIVE DIST. - Little Falls, Ringwood, Wanaque, Wayne
Senator Kevin J. O’Toole

36TH LEGISLATIVE DIST. - Passaic

Governor

Senator Gerald Cardinale

Assemblyman David C. Russo

the list go on and on

thats why you elected the sc um bags in to protect your kids
the future of usa (corruption) at its best
not one a hole spoke out to much at stake elections/payoffs/ gangsters

Narcissism evil cable people free masons etc

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they rule the world another earthquake iand the underground world will have no place to hide besides the denver airport.

no comment day . people have to vote out these

Assemblyman Scott T. Rumana

Chris Christie

Senator Paul A. Sarlo

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pillbury dough governer

7:14 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

hope you all lose upcomming gangster elections

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pay taxes feeel down gangsters new plan

7:34 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

whos paying for the overtime police dept. school personell attorny fees etc tonight

you are the wayne taxpayers talking aboput getting the shaft

we need penn state coaches in the wayne hills locker room to make men out of the boys he now i smell a movie in the making

with all those olsen supeman cartoons

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Mike Devant

7:37 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

To Squeakyfoot-u remember the place.......what if I told u my 5th grade teacher took us there with 6 other classmates after dinner each WED night for about 6 weeks. Her husband and she loved geology and we learned alot. Imagine doing this today, having a teacher come by the house to pickup 5th graders after dinner to go to a rock shop. One with roachclips and bongs no less. That would be in all the papers today and she would be arrested. I learned more with that teacher than anything else. She was in her 50's at the time and the nicest teacher you ever would meet.

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Squeakyfoot

8:12 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

to this day I can still remember the 1st time he zapped them with his ultraviolet light and the rocks came to life. That was one awesome collection. That's when Wayne really was a township. Thanks for the post !!!

pay taxes feeel down gangsters new plan

7:41 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

WHOS PAYING FOR OVERTIME POLICE , SECURITY ATTOR. ETC.
YOU THE SUCKER TAXPAYER.
STOP PAYING YOUR TAXES

GET RID OF PEOPLE GOV. WORKERS

UNDERFUNDED PENSIONS - LET NJ DEFAULT LIKE HARRISBURG PA

THIS IS WHY I WAKE UP AND GO TO WORK EVERYDAY

SO THE S CUM BAG POLITITIANS (GANG STERS) CAN RUIN
MY CHILDRENS THOUGHTS DREAMS

IT TIME TO NOT PAY TAXES ON HOUSES ANYMORE
JUSTICE IS NOT SERVING THE PEOPLE ANY MOR

LOOK AT WHO RUNS ITALY ANOTHE GOLDMAN SUCKS EMPLOYEE

REMEMBE CORZINE , CRAMER UPCHUCK SHUMER ARE ALL ROOMMATES IN COLLAGE AND FORMER GOLDMAN SUCKS EMPLYEES

WHERES GIENDER , CHARLES WRANGOLD BERNEY FRANK SMOKINF AND WATCHING PENN STATE / WAYNE HILLS GAMES

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jellybean

8:20 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

I'm a Wayne Valley alumni. It's only been a few years since I graduated from high school and it amazes me how much disciplining students has changed. I know people who would agree with me that if this had happened a few years ago, there would've been immediate consequences. I recall knowing people who were benched for breaking curfews, or saying things to rival players, or just generally misbehaving and not representing their team well. You screw up, you get punished, you learn your lesson and you move on with your life as a better person. It seems like these days that never happens anymore, and children are taught that its okay to do something wrong, you'll get out of it anyway. I am also a teacher. Just in general today, society seems to be afraid to punish children. We're afraid their too delicate, and we'll upset them. Well I was punished if I did something wrong and therefore know the difference between right and wrong. I don't really think its about football, and Hills vs. Valley. It comes down to, what are we trying to teach our kids today? That its okay to assault someone, or drink underage, or break some rules...because its okay. We'll just smack their hand and say no. Yeah, that's really teaching them a lesson. And to whoever it was who wanted to blame the teachers for their behavior? My job is not to raise your children. I do however work to be a positive role model and enforce the good behavior while educating them so they can be successful in the world.

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Ron

8:36 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

There ya go. Straight from tonight's football game webcast - How's this for being proud of our boys! ....

MattStanmyre: Here's a nugget In the Wayne Hills media guide Andrew Monoghan lists "getting under people's skin and trash-talking" as hobbies. #njfootball [via Twitter]

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Ruth

8:42 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Does anyone have a copy/link of the training rules?
Kids on other school teams have been benched for less. We, as a town, are making a very bad statement.

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John Wayne

9:56 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011

Jellybean got it right. If Hills parents, coaches, administrators, or teamates had demonstrated any comprehension of their moral and ethical responsibilty, this ruckus could have been avoided.
They have replaced their moral responsibility with a criminal law standard (innocent until proven guilty). Parents, you know who you are.

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Al Scala

8:43 am on Saturday, November 19, 2011

From today's editorial page, Bergen Record. "New Jersey has the toughest anti-bullying law in the nation. School administrators across the state complain it forces draconian actions for minor offenses. IN WAYNE, NO SUCH DILEMMA EXISTS" Well, here's a great salute to our fabulous TRUSTEES!

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Al Scala

8:46 am on Saturday, November 19, 2011

From today's editorial page, Bergen Record. "Two Wayne students were assaulted, allegedly by 9 Wayne football players, and all the district cares about is whether the criminally charged football players are being treated fairly" I didn't see the two who were assaulted being charged! Did you?

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Al Scala

8:51 am on Saturday, November 19, 2011

From today's Bergen Record editorial page. "Wayne residents are upset that their school officials would rather rush to the side of Olsen and his team, before rushing to the side of two assaulted Wayne students. Wayne should begin organizing now to replace each board member" I AGREE!

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Al Scala

8:54 am on Saturday, November 19, 2011

From today's Bergen Record, editorial page. "We also note the silence from Wayne Township officials. Where has Mayor Chris Vergano been these past weeks? Two students were beaten in Wayne, allegedly by Wayne students and he has been publicly silent". Maybe both ttown council and board should go.

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George

9:53 am on Saturday, November 19, 2011

In the court of public opinion this town is in shambles. Councilman Scuralli said in the debates property values are most important to Wayne voters, he is 100% correct and we are going down the tubes with each passing headline. I noticed Wayne did not make the top 100 communities in NJ Monthly this year, that is no surprise and that was before the latest events. Why would anyone want to move to Wayne? For our great education system with revolving doors of interim superintendents, students assaulting other students leaving them essentially to die and a BOE that apparently is too weak and is intimidated by a coach to take a stand? I think not.. Thrown in there the latest flooding disaster and a mayor, council and admin that dropped th ball, did nothing and left residents to sleep in their cars. Or all the headlines of a convicted felonserving on the WEC. This town is really lacking leadership and the BOE, every council member and the municpal staff better step up and start taking action and start putting this town back in the right direction..

irapasses

10:01 am on Saturday, November 19, 2011

Olsen has a duty to teach his players right from wrong. He should compel his players to speak up and reveal the "real " story that everyone is waiting to hear. Instead it appears that he has issued a gag order to all players and parents. What a great role model. Isnt that witness tampering and isnt witness tampering a criminal offense?

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K

10:58 am on Saturday, November 19, 2011

Are there no wh parents concerned that there are accused felons in the school? There is a policy regarding a safe environment.

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Yanksandmore

12:27 pm on Saturday, November 19, 2011

It is a disgrace what is going on. Where are the parents in all of this, too me they are the real problem, they should stop their kids from playing, they are the ultimate authority. If you are involved in something like this then don't play, how much does a HS football game really mean??

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Al Scala

12:48 pm on Saturday, November 19, 2011

Just about all, if not all of the Wayne Hills football players were sitting their big butts in a seat. There were mothers, and other ladies standing in the back as well as the outside hall. Not one of the football players got up and gave their seat to a mom or to another unaffiliated lady. NOT ONE. So much for the valuable lessons these football players are learning. I guess the show of support was more important. GO WAYNE HILLS.

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Al Scala

2:05 pm on Saturday, November 19, 2011

In Wayne, the patients are running the asylum.

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jellybean

9:09 pm on Saturday, November 19, 2011

Just a note...on the Wayne Valley HS website under athletics, the athlete code of conduct is available to see and read as well as the NJSIAA code of conduct. They are not on the Wayne Hills HS athletics site. It's just interesting...

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Willy

10:40 pm on Saturday, November 19, 2011

The doughy prosecutor is involved now boys... You asked for your due justice,,, well you got it... Along with the entire state and every school district now... You made it this way,, well deal with the results... What will Olsen and your parents do when the DA comes out with there results... Oh... It's all a set up... Wait till you walk into the rotunda in Paterson as the blonde bimbo stated it with lady justice blinded at the top of it...

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Rex miatke

6:53 am on Sunday, November 20, 2011

I have been reading these post and one thing is missing. Why are the parents that served the alcohol in their home not on the hot seat???? Where was the party at up on Urban Club. was the party at the home of a a famous agent that was hosting the party and that is why all this info is all under wraps?? Parents have to realize that allowing alcohol at parties and allowing under age kids to drink only causes problems. When things get out of hand and start to spin out of control what do you do?? Do you call family to come help?? Again where was this party at and why are the parents / agent not held responsible for their role in this whole mess.

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John Wayne

4:20 pm on Monday, November 21, 2011

They will be when they sober up

The Curb Stomper

11:34 am on Sunday, November 20, 2011

Please read this one, the last one should've have said how he was sticking up for the criminals and said they should be able to play!

It’s sad to say this but, the Olsen family is back to what it does best:harass and bully people, then get away. It’s disgusting going on Christian Olsen’s twitter and seeing him cursing off and harassing all other twitter accounts expressing how they think those 9 CRIMINALS should not have been suspended. In his tweets he is violent and acts like a MONAGHAN. It’s not only Christian Olsen who’s doing it, IT’S ALSO HIS NFL TIGHT END BROTHER GREG TOO! What has this world come to, what kind of sick bullying family is this. I think the cyber bully system should take a look into their twitter accounts and make them PUBLICLY face consequences. After all they’re not minors. Take a look what some of the tweets they wrote:
CwOllie Christian Olsen
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@ActivateFitPT bring it on buddy. I got many tricks up my sleeve

CwOllie Christian Olsen
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grow up douchebag---> @jweiner24

CwOllie Christian Olsen

Way to justify the Loss. Typical loser
CwOllie Christian Olsen
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not a kid just not as old as u. Dont pee the bed. Goodnight @MyPinstripes

gregolsen82 Greg Olsen

@josh3302 they should play bc they r guilty of nothing. If found guilty after process then discipline is needed. Easy. Basic rights

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proudparent

10:42 am on Monday, November 21, 2011

Can we all see an additional quality to the Olsen's, I can't help but notice, among being classless JO's, they are obviously stupid. What's "basic rights"? If this was true NO kid could ever be punished for ANYTHING unless he went to court & was found not guilty,. No WH student should ever be punished unless they're cleared in court. Of course, students going to trial are a rare occurance. So, what he's saying is that Wayne Hills itself has no rules or consequences at all. That should free up alot of time for the guidance counsolers, none needed. No rules except outside of the school. So, WH can be the Wild West if the kids are so inclined, no punishments, no discapline? None? Really? Olsen, & all administators You must be so proud.be so proud. I look forward to every ignorant illiterate nugget being tweeted by either Olsen, they have trouble with big words..

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proudparent

10:47 am on Monday, November 21, 2011

Chris & Greg Olsen's Life Lessons:
Success in life(if you don't need a soul or conscience), can be achieved by bullying people, talking with a 1st grade vocabulary & winning football games at any price.

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John Wayne

1:22 pm on Monday, November 21, 2011

Hey, all of you Wayne People, we can use your help in related article about "Hills romp over Paramus". We only have sixity posts there.

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Phil

2:56 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011

I say take these "football players" and send them off to play in a real war. Then lets see if they have learned any lessons away from Olsen.
Oh, by the way, has Olsen ever served the United States of America in any capacity, other than bully.
I would really like to know

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irapasses

9:44 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011

If you keep telling these kids how great they are and subject them to no punishments how do they learn responsibility and accountability? Many of the apologists were "worried" about lawsuits if the 9 were not allowed to play. What about the lawsuit from the teacher for having an arrested/charged felon still roaming the halls and wrecking havoc . See Air Horn article. Somehow the incident happened on Friday before the game and the 2 "alleged" perps were still allowed to play v Paramus. Anyone see a pattern here? http://www.northjersey.com/news/Air_horn_blast_injures_Wayne_Hills_teacher_at_pep_rally.html

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Ruth

8:03 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011

Wow....They injure a teacher, and are still allowed to play? It is no excuse to say we didn't mean to.....
Their actions should have consequences, but they don't because they are football players?

steve revette

9:47 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011

I agree with you 100 percent Irapasses. Kids need to learn some responsibility.

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irapasses

10:11 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011

well that is not happening at Wayne Hills and someone needs to be held accountable. THE principal should be dismissed as he has shown himself to be another olsen puppet.

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George

10:18 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011

As I read the subtext to this headline, "Board makes decision after holding 4-hour hearing with players", it makes me wonder how many hours they spent talking to the victims before reaching their decision?

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BERNARD GETTS

10:21 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011

mf =madoff finacial gonh corzone former geverner should be in jail asap stealing peoples money goverment does not work if you have money /connections corzine just ha adinner 35000 doller per plate with obama go figure if corzine if walkinf free

al the cops teachers coaches + gansters

justice does not work kid do steriods a better game shoot up after school hours you cannot be suspened look at the football team

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BERNARD GETTS

10:22 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011

orzine rules steal money and still walking free what a great country

olsen / kids students of week
has anybody been rading their twiiter bashing of paramus olsens kids can be found

saying bad things

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